had a girl in tears last night

[sevenofnine]

i don't understand why guys can't make a girl feel special.

i go to the titty bar quite regualar ok. sometimes i get a private dance usually not, i save my money for my sp.
but there are go go dancers i like to hang out with. and talk
there was a girl there and i like
and i just started complimenting her on the way she carries her self the class she has and the confidence,
she was in tears and she told me no one ever said that to her before.

i used to see and sp,
bigger and older, really run down in call but i liked her.

she had a nice face beautiful boobs great touch with her hands.
guys would write a reveiw of her. and just run her pretty sad actually.

i told her i liked her and she was pretty and nice told her why i came to her.
and she said no guy ever treated her like that.
what the fuck is the matter with you guys
can't make a girl feel special.

i see an sp now twenty years she has being doing this, or so.
it took me a couple years of seeing her. but eventually she stopped,
and told me no one ever told me that before.
it was nice she said she said she will remember what i told her forever.

so my question is.

why can't you guys make your girls feel special
and they are. there are alot of sps and dancers out there. but each one is specail and if you repeat with one. she must be special to you.


and to the lady that said she heard it all before from us guys.

well you never met me.

 

[Pirate Code]

Because in this society women are usually so starving for love and men are usually not at all interested in women for anything but using them for sex.

If a guy says something nice, that girl could think he actually likes her enough to consider her for a love relationship.... which is the last thing the guy wants to do.

 

[chilli]

Are you serious?

As a general rule -

Women don't go for nice guys, why do you think so many women complain about finding a good guy?

Almost every woman I've ever dated has a sob story about what a jerk their ex was.

If women stopped dating jerks, there'd be no more sob stories.... would there?

A better question to ask these "friends" of yours is "why do you choose jerks over good guys?"

Then tell them to go get help.

 

[oh3421]

Are you serious?

As a general rule -

Women don't go for nice guys, why do you think so many women complain about finding a good guy?

Almost every woman I've ever dated has a sob story about what a jerk their ex was.

If women stopped dating jerks, there'd be no more sob stories.... would there?

A better question to ask these "friends" of yours is "why do you choose jerks over good guys?"

Then tell them to go get help.

I have to go with pirate code on this one: women LOVE to get taken by the badass guy and then come to the nice guy (YOU ??) and cry on there shoulders how hard it is to get banged by the badass guy.
No ask yourself one single question: if you were NOT paying her, if you were just a sweet sensitive nice guy, would she still seek you out, hang out with you and want sex with you? Answer: yes - yes - and NO. Without being a client, you would be safely sit in the middle of her friend zone with no sex on the horizon.
This might be hard to take for you my friend, but you are using her ASS for PAY, you ARE one the badass guys...

 

[kimargan]

I see it like this, I'm pretty solid with girls never seen an sp more than 2 times only ever paid 7 times all of those times I was looking for something specific I don't or rather won't do with my gf ; normaly a day or two after a break up. and I am a nice guy, I complement my friends that are female and I treat all women with repect, and it is almost completly usless in terms of helping me get dates most the girls I meet and treat well will never be more than friends, or it will take like 7 years to get a date. 90% of the women that are attracted to me are because of sports, the only reason they like me is cause in that impact moment of a game I am always the guy with the ball, or making the ridiculos glove save. The other thing I've noticed recently is the girls I'm not super attracted to and therfore ignore and don't realy treat as nicely as the ones I am attracted to are always attracted to me, and that's produced some 1 night stands.

Way I see it the girls I treat bad all want to sleep with me, and the girls I treat well all want to be my friend but don't wanna go out with me, it's cause girls are fucked.

 

[mistressfreyja]

Seems to me that if these women could better self-validate and not seek self-esteem from men, they would be far less prone to spend their 'free'-time with assholes.

There are always men seeking a wounded woman and women seeking the same type of man to continue the wounding.

Break the cycle.....or not.

 

[oh3421]

Seems to me that if these women could better self-validate and not seek self-esteem from men, they would be far less prone to spend their 'free'-time with assholes.

There are always men seeking a wounded woman and women seeking the same type of man to continue the wounding.

Break the cycle.....or not.

I think you are on to something Mistress Freyja, but it cuts BOTH ways: the future will probably be in a way that we depend LESS on the other gender, validate ourselves from the INSIDE rather than with the help of a partner. All men and women will live independent, enlightened, self-sufficient, successful and career-focused lives.
There is only one problem: somewhere in the middle of all of this we need to meet and fuck. This wil probably be via SP, one-night hook-ups, NSA, FWB, sugarbabes etc.
In the long-term this will mean that we are ERASED from the gene-pool, and the more traditional family values (with many kids) will "win" - in other words, back to the old school

 

[FunSugarDaddy]

I been seeing the same woman for the last 5+ years and she's drop dead gorgeous, sort of like Julie Roberts - 10 years, and we spend a lot of time in initimate activities, such as kissing, bum massaging, fingering her to orgasm etc. and after we're done, I never forget to e-mail her and tell her what a great time I had and how special she is. Financial considerations aside, I'm quite certain this is why she's been seeing me all these years.

So I guess these comments are my way of agreeing with you. Woman you're attracted to should be made to feel extra special, usually those that do pay you back big time.

i don't understand why guys can't make a girl feel special.

i go to the titty bar quite regualar ok. sometimes i get a private dance usually not, i save my money for my sp.
but there are go go dancers i like to hang out with. and talk
there was a girl there and i like
and i just started complimenting her on the way she carries her self the class she has and the confidence,
she was in tears and she told me no one ever said that to her before.

i used to see and sp,
bigger and older, really run down in call but i liked her.

she had a nice face beautiful boobs great touch with her hands.
guys would write a reveiw of her. and just run her pretty sad actually.

i told her i liked her and she was pretty and nice told her why i came to her.
and she said no guy ever treated her like that.
what the fuck is the matter with you guys
can't make a girl feel special.

i see an sp now twenty years she has being doing this, or so.
it took me a couple years of seeing her. but eventually she stopped,
and told me no one ever told me that before.
it was nice she said she said she will remember what i told her forever.

so my question is.

why can't you guys make your girls feel special
and they are. there are alot of sps and dancers out there. but each one is specail and if you repeat with one. she must be special to you.


and to the lady that said she heard it all before from us guys.

well you never met me.

 

[geek]

The big difference between a self-described bad boy and a nice guy, is confidence. It is easier for a bad boy to fake confidence if he doesn't have it than it is for a nice guy to fake confidence. A confident man is more attractive to women more than anything else. You can look like brad pitt but if you aren't confident you aren't going to attract women. If your Quasimodo and are confident you can attract women.

Bad boys have their short comings for women, they can't go the distance when it comes to a relationship, a short term get the lady preggers and move on relationship, sure, but a long term committed relationship, nope. Bad boys also tend to be abusive, bullies and cowards.

It works the same for guys to. There are nice girls and bad girls and guys like bad girls.

 

[johngreenaway]

Right on

Yes. You are right on, Mistress Freya. Ain't that the truth. Everyone needs to break the cycle and carpe diem. BTW, quoting T.S. Eliot's poem J. Alfred Prufrock is brilliant. We all measure our lives out with coffeespoons (yes, look it up)

Seems to me that if these women could better self-validate and not seek self-esteem from men, they would be far less prone to spend their 'free'-time with assholes.

There are always men seeking a wounded woman and women seeking the same type of man to continue the wounding.

Break the cycle.....or not.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

Because in this society women are usually so starving for love and men are usually not at all interested in women for anything but using them for sex.

If a guy says something nice, that girl could think he actually likes her enough to consider her for a love relationship.... which is the last thing the guy wants to do.

Are you serious?

As a general rule -

Women don't go for nice guys, why do you think so many women complain about finding a good guy?

Almost every woman I've ever dated has a sob story about what a jerk their ex was.

If women stopped dating jerks, there'd be no more sob stories.... would there?

A better question to ask these "friends" of yours is "why do you choose jerks over good guys?"

Then tell them to go get help.

I have to go with pirate code on this one: women LOVE to get taken by the badass guy and then come to the nice guy (YOU ??) and cry on there shoulders how hard it is to get banged by the badass guy.
No ask yourself one single question: if you were NOT paying her, if you were just a sweet sensitive nice guy, would she still seek you out, hang out with you and want sex with you? Answer: yes - yes - and NO. Without being a client, you would be safely sit in the middle of her friend zone with no sex on the horizon.
This might be hard to take for you my friend, but you are using her ASS for PAY, you ARE one the badass guys...

(oh321 - I'm not too sure I'm understanding who or what you're agreeing with so I apologize if I got it wrong.lol)

I think the first 2 comments are completely missing the point though. Every woman likes to get compliments. In fact, everyone, man or woman, likes to get compliments. (Provided they're not over-the-top or exaggerated)


You guys seem to give compliments with some ulterior motive - you're missing the point. Give a compliment because it's what you honestly think and because you know it will make the person feel good. Being motivated by what you might get or not get out of it is not what it's about and makes the compliment, should you decide to offer one with the belief that you'll get some reward from it, loses its meaning and no longer even is a compliment. It's just something you say to manipulate things in your favor.


Real compliments don't have agendas, they're simple and no strings attached. It's not really complicated to give a compliment that a woman will appreciate for what it is. If you're overdoing it, tell someone what you think they want to hear or make it into something more complicated, that's when it may be interpreted as more than you wanted it to mean. But I'd guess there is a reason for it coming accross as such and that you probably did have some kind of agenda that was picked up on by the person you offered the compliment to.


Your comments demonstrate that obviously your compliments do come with strings attached one way or another. And that's where your problem is, not with the compliment giving itself. You're completely missing the point of why people give compliments and enjoy receiving them when they're genuine and honest. Just a thought.

 

[geek]

(oh321 - I'm not too sure I'm understanding who or what you're agreeing with so I apologize if I got it wrong.lol)

I think the first 2 comments are completely missing the point though. Every woman likes to get compliments. In fact, everyone, man or woman, likes to get compliments. (Provided they're not over-the-top or exaggerated)


You guys seem to give compliments with some ulterior motive - you're missing the point. Give a compliment because it's what you honestly think and because you know it will make the person feel good. Being motivated by what you might get or not get out of it is not what it's about and makes the compliment, should you decide to offer one with the belief that you'll get some reward from it, loses its meaning and no longer even is a compliment. It's just something you say to manipulate things in your favor.


Real compliments don't have agendas, they're simple and no strings attached. It's not really complicated to give a compliment that a woman will appreciate for what it is. If you're overdoing it, tell someone what you think they want to hear or make it into something more complicated, that's when it may be interpreted as more than you wanted it to mean. But I'd guess there is a reason for it coming accross as such and that you probably did have some kind of agenda that was picked up on by the person you offered the compliment to.


Your comments demonstrate that obviously your compliments do come with strings attached one way or another. And that's where your problem is, not with the compliment giving itself. You're completely missing the point of why people give compliments and enjoy receiving them when they're genuine and honest. Just a thought.

Miss Bijou has a very good point. It takes confidence and self-esteem to make a good compliment. It can open up conversations, give people a lift, and raise self-esteem at the same time.

 

[LittleAsianGuy]

Inthebum makes his sp or girls cry every night

 

[luvsdaty]

The best compliment a woman can give me is a blow job I dont like getting compliments cus it always seems like the person giving the compliment is an ass kisser, I'll usually give compliments to underlings(apprentices, people in the service industry, cus they're usually on there feet all day &working there asses off) As far as women go, i'd rather compliment the shy wallflower as opposed to the hot girl that thinks her shit doesn't stink.Just my 2 cent.
LD Go Canucks go!

 

[geek]

Inthebum makes his sp or girls cry every night

I'm sure he does, but are they tears of joy?

 

[sevenofnine]

just one or two comments.

what does that say about a women if she only likes ass holes for guys.
im not sure i would want to be with her even if she did pick me.

and the dancer i had in tears,
she was mine for the taking,
and im a nice guy,
so the theory that girls only like bad boys is well isn't always true.

but i had her wrapped around my little finger, we had a long conversation, she needs money
she is exploring ways to make more money with the clubs.
im like in my fifites right so the chances she would just fuck me for the hell of its are kind of slim.
but the thought did occur to my dirty little mind to meet her again,
and ease the thought into her that she could be an sp.


in fact we are meeting again, she gave me her scheduale and i might follow her around,
we just had alot of fun. for a couple of hours. but know
if she wants to be an sp, its going to be her idea not mine.

but in all honesty.
i have had the same experiance over and over againg when i was younger,
the girl would follow me out the door, and i wouldn't ask her.
she would chase me.


my only sort of feeling on the subject.

about whether girls like bad guys or nice guys.
i have no idea.

i try to be real. and honest with people especially girls and the closer i get with them the more real and honest i am
i am not specail or good looking or rich or anything,
but the girls that like me, tell me they like how real i am

 

[juniper]

Interesting discussion. I am enjoying it. We might wish to differentiate between a woman's purpose when she views a man: Would it not make a difference (in general) whether she is looking for a fling, a boyfriend or a mate? Of course, considerations may change after the original purpose and sometimes the original purpose gets muddled but think of it this way: When a woman goes out on the town, to a bar or to a dance on her own or with her companions, she is probably looking for a little company and a little sex. In that case, she is not likely to choose the same kind of man she would were her intent to establish a longterm relationship. Am I oversimplifying here?

 

[Jalapeno]

Girls that seek out bad guys deserve the shit they get, because they like it, no matter what they say. The only girls that I treat well and pay attention to, are friends that I can't/won't fuck. Other girls, I pay little to no attention to, regardless of how hot they are, because it won't help you out at all, unless you are not interested in anything other than friendship. The term "nice guys finish last" didn't come outta thin air.

It's facked up, but that's how females have dictated things should be.

 

[mistressfreyja]

Manifest destiny. If you have that kind of attitude, Jalapeno, you better bet that you will find ladies that fit the bill. Change your perception and attitude, and you just might find a nice lady that YOU want to be nice to.

As for deserving, some people are super codependent and fall into the same pattern/relationship time and time again. I wouldn't go so far as to say that they deserve it. I would say that they can't produce a better destiny until they do some personal work and strive to break the pattern.

 

[geek]

Girls that seek out bad guys deserve the shit they get, because they like it, no matter what they say. The only girls that I treat well and pay attention to, are friends that I can't/won't fuck. Other girls, I pay little to no attention to, regardless of how hot they are, because it won't help you out at all, unless you are not interested in anything other than friendship. The term "nice guys finish last" didn't come outta thin air.

It's facked up, but that's how females have dictated things should be.

I disagree with that. Nobody deserves to be treated like shit. Victims usually don't choose to be victims. Victims attract victimizers because victimizers are predators and they are prey. Women who choose to be with bad boys generally are insecure and have low self-esteem.

Like attracts like, and it has very little to do with Karma and everything to do with being comfortable. Honest people aren't comfortable around dishonest people, if you like escorts you will go to a escort review board and not a religious board. If you aren't attracting the women you want and are attracting the women you don't, the problem isn't the women, the problem is you

The best quote I've seen about bad boys and nice guys is this

"Nice guys finish last
Bad-boys wind up dead or in jail
Good guys don't even compete"

I know from bitter experience about being a nice guy and being with the wrong group of people.