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Hb I know you really enjoy flirting with the girls on the forum here but even you realize that is just part of the fantasy. As I said once you finish and your hour is up the fantasy is over.

No one here honestly considers a SP a friend, if you do then it should be since the two of you also get together and go out for coffee or dinner, do things together in groups of friends, she calls you up and you talk like normal friends would. You aren't friends because you know details about each other or you bring her a bottle of water and treat or that you talked to each other for 20 minutes outside your session and you even know her real name.

Remember you do not pay friends to be around you.

Are you going to argue that with me? If you are then maybe you have never had any real friends.

BOBO..... I agree that the SP / Pooner situation (won't call it a relationship) exists completely because of the financial component, but I can also say that the reality of the situation can be developed differently.

No you don't have to pay your friends to be friends with you.... but friendship is complex.... there are lots of exchanges that occur in frendship..... advice, compliments, someone feeling good about themselves because of who you are friends with..... generosity in all sorts of levels.

I.E. Friend needs help, flat tire stuck on the highway you are the only person they can get a hold of..... you spend time driving, money on gas and your time to go help that friend....... and how long would you be friends if you chose not to go help the friend (in effect choosing to spend (time effort and money on the friendship)... probably not long.

Friendships tend to be based on mutual sacrifice (a measure of true friendship) and to a large degree that is a transaction.


I respect the fact that you keep your distance from SPs you said you are 26 and have seem more than 150 sps...... you likely have very little real life relationship experience, you have parked your SP habit / addiction in a place such that you are able to deal with the fact that you pay women to have sex with you..... and suggest it is just a alternative to masturbation..... it is more than that and if you deny that you are not buying more than a hole to fuck you are lying to yourself......


I personally hate ALACARTE pricing.... I would much rather pay a girl for her time and see what happens..... I don't want to pay $100 to be allowed to go to Greece or come on an SPs face that sort of interaction doesn't appeal to me......

Now please don't go on to think I am delusional..... the interaction with an SP does not get established with out the financial transaction... but after that like everything else in this hobby lifestyle YMMV and the YMMV that people don't understand in the level of connection that can occur between SP and POONER..... trust me you know this, sometimes it is better than others.... and that is what drives it. Lots of pooners hate YMMV becasue ultimately they realize that a crappy session or poor mileage reflects on them quite a bit and they want their $300 to count as much as the next guy... .reality is that it doesn't count equally. It lots and lots and lots of cased my $240 is worth more than some pooners $300. As Charlie Sheen said..... I don't pay to fuck her, I pay her to leave..... and as soon as the MONEY doesn't exist then the responsibilites on the SP to just leave go away. All clients aren't created equally and SPs know this.... trust me sometimes they are happy to get paid to be with one client, and NEED to get paid to be with another.

Now please don't take this as me saying anything is NORMAL about MARKL and his situation with CHERRY..... he is completely delusional about things... he as SPERMY (who rocked in his post) said is using the board to talk about Cherry and thinks that because we end up reading it it somehow VALIDATES his feelings for CHERRY. It is CREEPY and delusional, kind of stalkerish... .and hopefully it does not end badly..... but just remember all things end badly otherwise they would not END.

MARKL you are what girls in this industry call an OCCUPATIONAL Hazzard.... trust me they are not that comfortable with all the attention.... they tolerate it politely becasue ultimately they get paid to. But trust me, they roll their eyes, laugh or feel sorry for you behind your back (I know this becasue the SPs (lots of the best ones) vent to me and mock the POONERS like that all the time)...... now also trust me this situation is not exclusive to the SP POONER relationship it happens in the real world all the time to..... it is the "just friends" situation in the real world......

The difference in the POONING world is for $240 you can fuck the girl who just wants to be "friends with you" and she will grit her teeth and stare at the ceiling.

So, back to you BOBO.... you have your own issues.... and you know what they are.... This HOBBY / ADDICTION serves a great big purpose in your life, and you try to down play it..... as most of us do. Doesn't mean that you aren't delusional also.
 

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MARKL you are what girls in this industry call an OCCUPATIONAL Hazzard.... trust me they are not that comfortable with all the attention.... they tolerate it politely becasue ultimately they get paid to. But trust me, they roll their eyes, laugh or feel sorry for you behind your back (I know this becasue the SPs (lots of the best ones) vent to me and mock the POONERS like that all the time).
Good post TMF22

But this part is horrible. If that is true then Bobo is right and I’m done with it. I am not some fucking joke or fodder they can ridicule to other guys. Thanks for being so polite and tolerating me but I won’t be mocked. This actually breaks my heart and shatters the perceptions I had that respect goes both ways. I won’t rate myself but I’m a decent person and a good client with modest expectations. I have been pooning my entire adult life….I can’t believe I’ve been such a fool. I hope you’re happy TMF22, the girls are lucky for guys like you who have a better grip on reality and can offer a sympathetic ear to confide in. Don’t worry ladies, you won’t have to grit your teeth and roll your eyes with me anymore, sorry for making you so uncomfortable all these years. I honestly didn’t think guys like me were all that bad.
 

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Guys this "hobby" or whatever you wanna call it is supposed to be fun and something to enjoy isn't it? Maybe I'm wrong, but I always thought and still think that when I see a client I'm simply providing a service he chooses for the time he wants. In return I'm compensated with money for the time I spend in the room with him.

I am the provider and "host" if you will. It's my job to make sure that he is fully taken care of in the time he's with me because he's spending his hard earned money to be with me. It's the SP's job to create the right experience for him. I believe as soon as the client steps foot into the studio or hotel room, whatever it may be the provider should try to create the best "fantasy" possible, where the goal here is to take his mind off normal everyday stress and provide him with something he may not get at home etc.

We're all adults and both parties know(or should know) that when it's time to say "goodbye" that it's over and that's that. There is no falling in love, meeting for dinner, expressing our deepest utmost passion or love for eachother. It's always been a NSA(no strings attached) meeting and everybody knows that.

This business isn't for everyone. By that I mean, not everyone can handle working as an SP/escort and not every guy will be cut out to continually enjoy this "hobby". For some people it's just not right and that's okay.

As an SP, I don't think it's right for me or any other SP to play with a clients mind and emotions by claiming they love them or even stringing them along by leading them to think that maybe one day they will be together and fall in love and yadda yadda yadda. I think most of us know that's not cool and so we don't do that. It's not fair for anyone and even in life in general.

HB40, You seem to know that it's a total NSA situation when you see a girl. As long as you enjoy yourself and you're not hurting yourself or anyone there's nothing to worry about.

I don't understand how all of a sudden it's like big news that once the time is up in the session that the 2 parties say their "goodbyes" and that's it? That's how it's always been. Like I said, some people just aren't cut out as an SP or even a client partaking in this hobby.

Everyone has a choice and if the client can't handle that once it's over, it's over...then that's okay and he shouldn't do it then. It's supposed to be a fun thing and an escape. As with anything in life, if something you're doing doesn't make you feel good and it's starting to get you down, then maybe it's time to stop.

My 2 cents. :)
 

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More people should be self centered, then you would be more like me and not have these issues.
 

TooMuchFun22

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Good post TMF22

But this part is horrible. If that is true then Bobo is right and I’m done with it. I am not some fucking joke or fodder they can ridicule to other guys. Thanks for being so polite and tolerating me but I won’t be mocked. This actually breaks my heart and shatters the perceptions I had that respect goes both ways. I won’t rate myself but I’m a decent person and a good client with modest expectations. I have been pooning my entire adult life….I can’t believe I’ve been such a fool. I hope you’re happy TMF22, the girls are lucky for guys like you who have a better grip on reality and can offer a sympathetic ear to confide in. Don’t worry ladies, you won’t have to grit your teeth and roll your eyes with me anymore, sorry for making you so uncomfortable all these years. I honestly didn’t think guys like me were all that bad.
HB40......in all seriousness I am refering to MARKLs situation stopping by daily, admitting that he tried to establish an away from the MP relationship with CHERRY claiming he loved her, saying he was done with her, and then starting to see her again....

I really don't know HB40 if you stalk or obsess over SP girls.... I don't know if you drop by and give them gifts or stop by and flirt with them and get some sort of thrill by chatting up a girl while she is at work and thinking that this is part of your social life. I really don't know your situation, but I can tell you that there are many variables to this hobby that might be different for each pooner.... but the one commonality is cash... it is a PAY for PLAY hobby.

I can tell you this SPs regularly MOCK guys who don't get it.... you either do or you don't. Reality is you stand out in a session by how you act when you are in a session with an SP not by all the little things you do when you aren't in a session..... And that is the type of stuff that they make fun of, and that is also the type of stuff that changes how they think of you IN A SESSION..... becasue in reality you prove that you can't handle it.
 
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TooMuchFun22

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Guys this "hobby" or whatever you wanna call it is supposed to be fun and something to enjoy isn't it? Maybe I'm wrong, but I always thought and still think that when I see a client I'm simply providing a service he chooses for the time he wants. In return I'm compensated with money for the time I spend in the room with him.

I am the provider and "host" if you will. It's my job to make sure that he is fully taken care of in the time he's with me because he's spending his hard earned money to be with me. It's the SP's job to create the right experience for him. I believe as soon as the client steps foot into the studio or hotel room, whatever it may be the provider should try to create the best "fantasy" possible, where the goal here is to take his mind off normal everyday stress and provide him with something he may not get at home etc.

We're all adults and both parties know(or should know) that when it's time to say "goodbye" that it's over and that's that. There is no falling in love, meeting for dinner, expressing our deepest utmost passion or love for eachother. It's always been a NSA(no strings attached) meeting and everybody knows that.

This business isn't for everyone. By that I mean, not everyone can handle working as an SP/escort and not every guy will be cut out to continually enjoy this "hobby". For some people it's just not right and that's okay.

As an SP, I don't think it's right for me or any other SP to play with a clients mind and emotions by claiming they love them or even stringing them along by leading them to think that maybe one day they will be together and fall in love and yadda yadda yadda. I think most of us know that's not cool and so we don't do that. It's not fair for anyone and even in life in general.

HB40, You seem to know that it's a total NSA situation when you see a girl. As long as you enjoy yourself and you're not hurting yourself or anyone there's nothing to worry about.

I don't understand how all of a sudden it's like big news that once the time is up in the session that the 2 parties say their "goodbyes" and that's it? That's how it's always been. Like I said, some people just aren't cut out as an SP or even a client partaking in this hobby.

Everyone has a choice and if the client can't handle that once it's over, it's over...then that's okay and he shouldn't do it then. It's supposed to be a fun thing and an escape. As with anything in life, if something you're doing doesn't make you feel good and it's starting to get you down, then maybe it's time to stop.

My 2 cents. :)
That is quality 2 cents...... but just so you know Vienna....lots and lots of your clients or POONERS in general CAN"T HANDLE IT......you rock their world and they don't want it to be because you are a great actress they want it to be about a real connection..... and they mistake physical connection for something else.


My bet is in the "real" world guys have more trouble in Sex for Sport or Friends with Benefits situations especially if the partner is a 7 or better, and even worse if she is a smart 7 or better.


Guys like the sex, but lots and lots of them thrive on the EGO stroke to.... part of the FANTASY based on the fact that said POONER gets to FUCK hot chick that he would have no chance with otherwise..... and I think that is the MO of lots and lots of POONERS.... and SPs are smart eough to flirt et al... and use their charm to close the long term sale with POONERS..... which probably makes them good at their job....
 
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That is quality 2 cents...... but just so you know Vienna....lots and lots of your clients or POONERS in general CAN"T HANDLE IT......you rock their world and they don't want it to be because you are a great actress they want it to be about a real connection..... and they mistake physical connection for something else.


My bet is in the "real" world guys have more trouble in Sex for Sport or Friends with Benefits situations especially if the partner is a 7 or better, and even worse if she is a smart 7 or better.


Guys like the sex, but lots and lots of them thrive on the EGO stroke to.... part of the FANTASY based on the fact that said POONER gets to FUCK hot chick that he would have no chance with otherwise..... and I think that is the MO of lots and lots of POONERS.... and SPs are smart eough to flirt et al... and use their charm to close the long term sale with POONERS..... which probably makes them good at their job....

After reading what you said, I agree with you. There are 2 sides and 2 views for everything I think. I can only speak from my point of view with that being the "provider" position. I think you're possibly right because like I said I can only speak from my experiences and observations on this side of what this "experience" is supposed to be. There most certainly isn't just one view on anything, there are always the whole "why don't you put yourself in my shoes?" type thing. :cool: So after reading what you had to say, I'm kinda starting to understand that other side, being the "client" side of this sort of experience.

What I'm curious to know now is if my clients(and other SPs clients') who visit on a very regular basis, are actually genuinely enjoying themselves? :confused: Honestly TMF, you said that pretty much most of my clients deep down probably aren't happy when they leave because they actually want the whole "real connection" type thing? Now I'm starting to think that there's really no point then?

When I'm with a client my goal isn't to bring them down or give them mixed feelings etc, same with all girls! That's the whole point, to try our hardest to make them forget the negative stressful shit even if it's just for ONE effin hour. F*ck, lifes really tough sometimes so if I can do just that, then I'm happy and hopefully he is too. But if he's always visitng the girl, times up and he's leaving feeling worse than he did to begin with....clearly there's a problem. lol

I dunno, I'll admit you got me thinking that's for sure. :confused: There's enough bitter, jaded, angry at the world people out there! I seriously want/try to make the experience a positive thing.

Also, I'd rather one of my clients tell me straight up that he's not happy or is starting to not like the whole idea of an NSA experience. Honest to God, I really just hope and expect that people are just honest with themselves. Like seriously, if somethings just not working anymore like it used to or that "good" feeling isn't there anymore after you see a girl, then be honest with yourself and just find something else that makes you happy. Life's too f****** short to NOT make yourself happy. :cool:
 

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After reading what you said, I agree with you. There are 2 sides and 2 views for everything I think. I can only speak from my point of view with that being the "provider" position. I think you're possibly right because like I said I can only speak from my experiences and observations on this side of what this "experience" is supposed to be. There most certainly isn't just one view on anything, there are always the whole "why don't you put yourself in my shoes?" type thing. :cool: So after reading what you had to say, I'm kinda starting to understand that other side, being the "client" side of this sort of experience.

What I'm curious to know now is if my clients(and other SPs clients') who visit on a very regular basis, are actually genuinely enjoying themselves? :confused: Honestly TMF, you said that pretty much most of my clients deep down probably aren't happy when they leave because they actually want the whole "real connection" type thing? Now I'm starting to think that there's really no point then?

When I'm with a client my goal isn't to bring them down or give them mixed feelings etc, same with all girls! That's the whole point, to try our hardest to make them forget the negative stressful shit even if it's just for ONE effin hour. F*ck, lifes really tough sometimes so if I can do just that, then I'm happy and hopefully he is too. But if he's always visitng the girl, times up and he's leaving feeling worse than he did to begin with....clearly there's a problem. lol

I dunno, I'll admit you got me thinking that's for sure. :confused: There's enough bitter, jaded, angry at the world people out there! I seriously want/try to make the experience a positive thing.

Also, I'd rather one of my clients tell me straight up that he's not happy or is starting to not like the whole idea of an NSA experience. Honest to God, I really just hope and expect that people are just honest with themselves. Like seriously, if somethings just not working anymore like it used to or that "good" feeling isn't there anymore after you see a girl, then be honest with yourself and just find something else that makes you happy. Life's too f****** short to NOT make yourself happy. :cool:
I only have one thing to say Vienna. Not everyone shares TMFs jaded view of the world. Some people actually go throw life wearing a smile, and hoping to make others smile. I can see that you are one of them. Good on you!!;)
 

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I wasn't going to reply to this thread, but there seems to be a lot of misconceptions out there at the moment.

I always come away from the session smiling, and smile for days after.

It isn't an obsession to see her, it is more like going to see an old friend now.

I do care about her a lot. Wow, imagine that, a person actually caring about someone else.

I started the thread with something else in mind, but people seem to just need drama or to bring up something negative, which speaks volumes.

Psych 101, you devalue others for one reason only, to inflate yourselves.

In the end, it doesn't matter to me what anyone on this forum thinks about me, I am comfortable being me, and she is comfortable seeing me, and that is all I care about.

Good day.
 

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I really don't know HB40 if you stalk or obsess over SP girls.... I don't know if you drop by and give them gifts or stop by and flirt with them and get some sort of thrill by chatting up a girl while she is at work and thinking that this is part of your social life. I really don't know your situation, but I can tell you that there are many variables to this hobby that might be different for each pooner.... but the one commonality is cash... it is a PAY for PLAY hobby.

I can tell you this SPs regularly MOCK guys who don't get it.... you either do or you don't. Reality is you stand out in a session by how you act when you are in a session with an SP not by all the little things you do when you aren't in a session..... And that is the type of stuff that they make fun of, and that is also the type of stuff that changes how they think of you IN A SESSION..... becasue in reality you prove that you can't handle it.
Yep, you don't know anything about me, at least you got something right.

Am I the only one who sees your comments as cruel and a disservice to SP's? We are all deluded in some way, some of us have feelings and hope the girls are genuine with theirs, some of us have contempt and see the girls as manipulative, and some of us think we know so much more than everybody else and are that guy that the girls can open up to or vent about all the sorry saps and losers who pay for sex or want a relationship.

If you really did get it TMF, you would tell the SP's that it is improper and unprofessional to mock or make fun of clients behind their backs. If they can have those types of feelings wouldn't it be logical that in contrast they can actually have normal and healthy emotions of connection as well and that cash isn't the only tangible commonality to a SP/client relationship. You're the YMMV spokesman, surely you can see that, I mean they sure seem to open up with you, or maybe the reality is you're just a joke too.

And Vienna, I’m glad you added to your first post. I don't know if you missed my point or you are one of the SP's who make fun and mock clients behind their backs but I was hoping for a little understanding and better encouragement than "maybe you should stop" You girls do make us feel good, about ourselves and life in general. For me anyway, and guys like Markl. Just like you ask for honesty if guys begin wanting more than the NSA experience I only ask for the same thing. If I am making you uncomfortable or getting too emotional it’s best to make that known….don’t be talking about us behind our backs. I’m sure TMF is a swell guy but isn’t it apparent he can’t be trusted, I mean why would someone say shit like that. We all talk about people but most of us try to maintain that element of discretion and confidence.

One of the best things that ever happened to me in this hobby was an SP flat out telling me I was out of line and she was no longer the girl for me. A slap in the face for sure but a lesson well needed. I still have very strong feelings for her as I do for many SP’s I’ve met but I don’t take for granted the nature of this business so much anymore. We all have feelings and affections for different people, we’re only human. The way I see it is it’s not that there is NO emotional attachment or genuine feelings, but just that people are naturally guarded and protective so as not to get hurt or set themselves up for disappointment. I have a great admiration for guys like Markl who are not afraid to be honest and vulnerable, just as I have a great respect for you girls who are sensitive and understanding and help us to keep it real and in perspective. The money keeps things black and white but the reality is when sex is involved there is a grey area that simply cannot be defined.
 

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HB40, I don't know why you'd bring up me mocking, laughing and being all bitchy about you behind your back? :confused: I don't think it's right that you actually just asked me if I'm one of those girls. I don't think I said anything wrong at all with what I posted.

I was completely being honest with everything I said in regards to TMFs post and I'm very offended that you'd even find a way to derive negativity from what I said. Please read what I said again. There is not a single word or sentence in there that's remotely rude, disrespectful or condescending.

I know I said if it's not making you feel good anymore then maybe you should just stop. How was there anything wrong with that? :confused: It's the truth. I'm not gonna beat around the bush as there's not even a BUSH to beat around! LOL It's very simple and clear...if it's not right for the client anymore, then yes, just stop going. I'm not being insensitive at all, I'm just being upfront as I am with everything and all my clients. To each their own, but I'd rather say it like it is, then have people wondering or getting the wrong idea which is exactly what this whole things about! lol :)

Please don't try to find something negative with what I've said as there's nothing I said wrong any where in my post. :)
 

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I wasn't going to reply to this thread, but there seems to be a lot of misconceptions out there at the moment.


In the end, it doesn't matter to me what anyone on this forum thinks about me, I am comfortable being me, and she is comfortable seeing me, and that is all I care about.

Good day.

You don't care what people think, but you felt compelled to clear up all the misconceptions "out there".

Do you realize the hyporcisy is almost everything you say.....

Thanks for clarifying that you are delusional.
 

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One of the best things that ever happened to me in this hobby was an SP flat out telling me I was out of line and she was no longer the girl for me. QUOTE]

Is it ok if I take this quote as proof and reinforcement that clowns like you need to be reminded of the realities of this HOBBY on a regular basis.


Also PLEASE note at no time has VIENNA ever mocked you HB40 to me.

And actually rarely do SPs mock their specific clients.... but they do quite often mock PERBERITES.... and usually just as the "sad and pathetic ones"...... not by user name.

Now HB40 it appears that is was you, not me that lumped yourself voluntarily into that group..... GOOD FOR YOU FOR BEING HONEST with yourself.


There are the occaisional ones that they decide they need to vent about.... ACTUALLY HB40 you should thank me, the fact that the SPs can vent to someone likely means they are able to bite the bullet and get through some sessions.
 

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Nice post HB40.

Vienna, he wasn't flat out saying you were one of those gals. It was more like an implied query.

I've heard lots of stories from sps about their clients, mostly about the ones who don't take a shower and smell badly though lol.

HB.. shower dude!

J/K :)
 

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After reading what you said, I agree with you. There are 2 sides and 2 views for everything I think. I can only speak from my point of view with that being the "provider" position. I think you're possibly right because like I said I can only speak from my experiences and observations on this side of what this "experience" is supposed to be. There most certainly isn't just one view on anything, there are always the whole "why don't you put yourself in my shoes?" type thing. :cool: So after reading what you had to say, I'm kinda starting to understand that other side, being the "client" side of this sort of experience.

What I'm curious to know now is if my clients(and other SPs clients') who visit on a very regular basis, are actually genuinely enjoying themselves? :confused: Honestly TMF, you said that pretty much most of my clients deep down probably aren't happy when they leave because they actually want the whole "real connection" type thing? Now I'm starting to think that there's really no point then?

When I'm with a client my goal isn't to bring them down or give them mixed feelings etc, same with all girls! That's the whole point, to try our hardest to make them forget the negative stressful shit even if it's just for ONE effin hour. F*ck, lifes really tough sometimes so if I can do just that, then I'm happy and hopefully he is too. But if he's always visitng the girl, times up and he's leaving feeling worse than he did to begin with....clearly there's a problem. lol

I dunno, I'll admit you got me thinking that's for sure. :confused: There's enough bitter, jaded, angry at the world people out there! I seriously want/try to make the experience a positive thing.

Also, I'd rather one of my clients tell me straight up that he's not happy or is starting to not like the whole idea of an NSA experience. Honest to God, I really just hope and expect that people are just honest with themselves. Like seriously, if somethings just not working anymore like it used to or that "good" feeling isn't there anymore after you see a girl, then be honest with yourself and just find something else that makes you happy. Life's too f****** short to NOT make yourself happy. :cool:
OK I think your clients likely leave after having a really good time, you are an attractive and fit provider who seems to be pretty good at their job.......

But if you want a better explanation just think of how often you are left to manage a situation in which things could get awkward between you and a client if it was not left up to you to control.

Think of your personal life.... how many GUY friends do you have, that are reallly "just friends" and would actually turn down sleeping with you, or taking the "friendship" to the next level.... my guess is close to zero.

THE SP client situation is the opposite.... how many clients would turn you down if you offered them the opportunity to take the situation a different way and see you outside the studio for casual fun and sex off the clock.... um PROBABLY close to ZERO.... that is all I am saying.....

You are good at your job, you allow there to be some good sex for sport in your sessions, and you let there be a decent level of physical connection to occur, but as you said that is 1 hour or what ever, and then it is over. Lots and lots of your clients accept that, but lots and lots would like there to be a little more.
 

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Please don't try to find something negative with what I've said as there's nothing I said wrong any where in my post. :)
It's not what you said dear, but what you didn't say. My post was about TMF's statement that SP's only tolerate guys like me and laugh about us behind our backs. You responded with some SP's/guys aren't cut out for this hobby.... nothing wrong with that and very truthful. I am offended that SP's may mock us but even further offended that no one has denied it!

What am I supposed to think? I have always held SP's to a high esteem, but if none of you are going to say that TMF is talking out of his ass then I'm sorry Vienna, and I don't mean you personally, but I will have lost a good deal of respect for SP's this day. If you really want/try to make this experience a positive one then help keep my fantasy alive, please tell me men/clients are not just a joke and laughable at best.
 

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TMF22, I see what you're saying. Seriously when I first started in this biz, I'm not gonna lie I didn't understand and really know just how important it was to be straight forward with everything that's said and done with clients.
As I said before, always cool to hear another persons thoughts. :)


HB40, Even though you didn't flat out accuse me of laughing behind your back, you still did IMPLY that I may be "one of those girls" and as I said, I'm still offended because you've read enough about me by now I'm sure(since you clearly participate often on this board) and you've seen the way I carry myself on here by what I write and respond to. These things alone should immediately show you that I didn't just work my first shift in the biz yesterday and that I'm not some snobby prima donna 18yr old SP(no offense to the 18yr olds! lol) who has no idea WTF being a quality and respectable service provider is all about. :rolleyes: In fact I'm the total opposite and even have proof! lol So obviously I'm offended by your insinuation. Would you like me to imply that maybe you could possibly be the client aka"MY HERO" who ripped me off that day? :rolleyes: Probably not. So once again whether you're implying anything about a girl or not, it's not nice and nobody likes it. You should also know by being a member on Perb, that an SP's reputation is HUGE. I wouldn't imply anything towards you ,so PLEASE refrain from doing the same to me.

Regarding TMF's post, why is it my business or my "authority" to deny and defend all of his words? :confused: I have nothing against you never have, but if you read what you have said it a bit silly to see that you're asking me to come on here and make it all better...? :confused: Maybe it's just me, but honestly I'm a member on here just as everyone else and my job is to provide you with a great experience that's it and that's all. Please don't think that it's my job(and all other SP's) to now have to come on here and start challenging other peoples' views and opinions for your comfort. It puts me in an awkward position as I have nothing to do with what a girl says or does in front or behind your(or another clients) back. Why? Because I'm only responsible for the things I do and the things I say. :)

So HB40, like I said I still have nothing against you, but I hope you now understand where I'm coming from as this kinda turned into a bit of a miscommunication that's all. :) As for protecting your SP values meaning telling you what to think of us and what not to think of us, well I can't do that. Neither can anyone else for that matter. You're entitled to form your OWN views and beliefs as to which SP is what to you. It's the same for everyone else. TMF, said what he said and there's nothing I can do about it. I'm only human as well and I don't OWN anyone or their opinions and I certainly won't influence your views on the SP's by agreeing or flat out denying TMFs words or anyone elses. It's all up to you. I'm glad you've enjoyed your visits with the beautiful SP's we have in our city, as they've did their job. ;)
 

HB40

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Vienna,

I don't know what to say!?! :confused:

I'm just glad you hate all the drama and bullshit so much because we don't want this to get ugly. ;)

I think I understand you now and know where you're coming from, lets leave this on a positive note....
I'm glad you tolerated your sessions with all the gentlemen, it's a shame we never met. :rolleyes:

BTW, clear your PM's, I would have preferred to speak to you discreetly :eek:

Hey Jim, you got anything to wash down this popcorn? :cool:
 

Vienna

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Vienna,

I don't know what to say!?! :confused:

I'm just glad you hate all the drama and bullshit so much because we don't want this to get ugly. ;)

I think I understand you now and know where you're coming from, lets leave this on a positive note....
I'm glad you tolerated your sessions with all the gentlemen, it's a shame we never met. :rolleyes:

BTW, clear your PM's, I would have preferred to speak to you discreetly :eek:

Hey Jim, you got anything to wash down this popcorn? :cool:
Sorry all cleared now! :)
 
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