Guide to TOFTT

[bobbiz]

Hello fellow Hobbyists,

I've put together some tips and guidance that could be useful to "rookie guys" when doing pure TOFTTs (i.e. when dealing with unproven unreviewed un-established independent escorts).

It's still a draft but fairly advanced (and long). It's also a live document which means it will continually being revised and improved.

What do you think of it so far? If you have any constructive recommendations please let me know and I'll incorporate them.

Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tLf9Ka6dI6Tb4XLFr18cuPruHrMyUZwxC6Q1VsOMBSk/edit#

 

[Service guy]

bobbiz,

Excellent work, thank you for putting the time in for this. This should save at least some of the guys some hassles.
Unfortunately I learned a lot of this the hard way.

 

[Robert Audley]

Great work bobbiz! And a lot of work! Thanks a lot!

 

[Beastie]

Helluva job. I'll say that the thought of asking an SP whether her pictures are real...never occurred to me!
Thanks for sharing

 

[Robert Audley]

Helluva job. I'll say that the thought of asking an SP whether her pictures are real...never occurred to me!
Thanks for sharing

Well, that's just one of the many things to consider (as bobbiz guide points out). I think a scammer will probably tell you that her/his pictures are real. I usually follow up that question with a warning that if she's not the one in the pictures, I will walk away from the appointment. That usually works.

 

[bobbiz]

bobbiz, Excellent work, thank you for putting the time in for this. This should save at least some of the guys some hassles. Unfortunately I learned a lot of this the hard way.

Great work bobbiz! And a lot of work! Thanks a lot!

Nice work bobbiz .. A great addition of info for this board. Cheers mate

Helluva job. I'll say that the thought of asking an SP whether her pictures are real...never occurred to me! Thanks for sharing

Wow guys, thanks for the good words! It's really appreciated.

Well, that's just one of the many things to consider (as bobbiz guide points out). I think a scammer will probably tell you that her/his pictures are real. I usually follow up that question with a warning that if she's not the one in the pictures, I will walk away from the appointment. That usually works.

You're correct Robert and also right on time lol. A new section has just been added in regards to breaking down the typical irrational lame excuses that Fakers will provide instead of providing a reassurance picture.

We can all operate as we wish, me personally I don't give that warning that I will walk if the pictures are fake. My reasoning being that:
1. I'm too suborn and believe too much in the guidance lol
2. It would be a waste of time/gas/opportunity to walk away
3. It could give her and her pimp a heads-up warning and if I leave they may request that I pay to have wasted their time. Even though it's MY time that's being wasted since she would be a bait and switch scammer
4. Even if a Faker is deserving, I don't like to reject someone right in their face like that. I shouldn't feel bad, but I do anyway. Plus it's awkward lol

 

[austin1]

sorry i have a question...what does TOFTT stand for???

 

[bsgrinder]

TOFTT means took one for the team.

 

[bobbiz]

sorry i have a question...what does TOFTT stand for???

The definition of TOFTT is in the definition section of the document. Also, Google should always be your friend

 

[Bigbayer]

Spot on! Thanks man!

 

[laster]

Man, you put in some serious R&D for this! Fantastic!

 

[bobbiz]

Spot on! Thanks man!

Man, you put in some serious R&D for this! Fantastic!

Thanks. Yes R&D from the last 4 years at least

 

[bobbiz]

Bumping in the name of exposure.

LINK: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tLf9Ka6dI6Tb4XLFr18cuPruHrMyUZwxC6Q1VsOMBSk/edit#

I've also revised the "Texting made VERY simple" section to these:

Text #1: "Hello [insert escort’s name], how are you? I saw your ad and I’d be interested in seeing you. Can I have your rates, included services, restrictions, and location please?”

Text #2: I just want to confirm that you are really the woman in the pictures of your ad? Or are you posting pictures you look similar to? I ask because many escorts post pictures of other women. Btw I would understand and respect if you didn't want to put your own pictures online for privacy reasons.

Text #3: Do you have an established social media or website that you use for work?
Or do you have a link to a review of yourself on an escort review board/forum?
Or do you have a full body proof picture of yourself with your phone # on a paper like many escorts have nowadays?
Sorry to ask but I'm sure you know that most ads on leolist are dishonest, or worse ��

Text #4: Would you be understanding and accommodating to send me just ONE picture showing your FULL frontal body while doing this hand gesture: [insert specific hand emoji] Please? This would provide me reassurance that you are really this amazing looking �� Showing your face and nudity is up to you, but the full body and hand gesture is KEY.

Text#3 allows for the escort to tell you if she's not just a random ad on LL which could save both parties time and aggravation. Of course the guy/client should have read the ad properly and at least Google her phone number first to see if any hints are available.

 

[bobbiz]

I need to bump this again for exposure, several development have been included.

 

[Cumalittlecloser]

Great resource with a lot of valuable information and tips. Thanks!
Much of this is making good sense decisions, and following through when the big head has a good idea. Sadly, as many of us are aware, it isn't always THAT head that makes the decision.
It's never fun when you get to the door and find the switch instead of the bait. And as awkward as it feels, and as cruel it may seem, as a matter of principle I will always walk away when the girl doesn't match the photo. Remember, SHE is the one who is misrepresenting herself in an attempt to cheat you out of your money. Of course, if the girl at the door is hotter than the bait, feel free to improvise.
Recently I asked the question of a lady with no reviews. She assured me the photos are genuine so I went for it. She is legit, and I'll be writing a brief review shortly.
I think it was the first time I had ever asked if photos were real. One time I asked and the person on the other end just hung up. That was that.
Anyway, thanks to bobbiz for taking the time and sharing insights. Very helpful indeed.

 

[bobbiz]

Great resource with a lot of valuable information and tips. Thanks!
Much of this is making good sense decisions, and following through when the big head has a good idea. Sadly, as many of us are aware, it isn't always THAT head that makes the decision.
It's never fun when you get to the door and find the switch instead of the bait. And as awkward as it feels, and as cruel it may seem, as a matter of principle I will always walk away when the girl doesn't match the photo. Remember, SHE is the one who is misrepresenting herself in an attempt to cheat you out of your money. Of course, if the girl at the door is hotter than the bait, feel free to improvise.
Recently I asked the question of a lady with no reviews. She assured me the photos are genuine so I went for it. She is legit, and I'll be writing a brief review shortly.
I think it was the first time I had ever asked if photos were real. One time I asked and the person on the other end just hung up. That was that.
Anyway, thanks to bobbiz for taking the time and sharing insights. Very helpful indeed.

Thanks for the good words my good Sir and I concur with everything you wrote.

If anyone has any questions or suggestions regarding the document, please post.

LINK: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tLf9Ka6dI6Tb4XLFr18cuPruHrMyUZwxC6Q1VsOMBSk/edit#

The more (constructive) ideas are brought forward, the better the guidance will be for anyone to benefit from.

We, as honest respectful clients, must stick together and help each other out to increase the benefits of this fun hobbying game with partake in

 

[bobbiz]

Friendly bump now that things are slowly opening up...