Go Canucks

[BJhunter]

Azn is nuts!

Ok, well let's see....

On the one hand you've argued that Sundin wouldn't make an impact on this team despite the fact that he's averaged close to a point a game the last ten seasons and scored over 30 in 7 of them, including the last one. Yet on the other hand you've used edler as an example to make the argument that you don't sign on what you think a player will do (I think you guys were talking about potential) but on what he's done in the past. You're contradicting yourself.

You've then argued that Sundin would be a lame signing on the basis that he's done nothing in the playoffs and have dismissed the argument that "one player does not make a team". But by your reasoning Osgood should be a hall of famer because he's won 3 cups. But oh wait, you also mentioned that detroit won despite not having good goaltending because "they had great teams".

Basically, you're just cherry picking your arguments as you go along.

So do I think that the Canucks are a cup contender? Not quite, Detroit and San Jose have the form right now. But that's not a guarantee; that's why you play the games. But I'm also not going to throw them under the bus like you do. And as much as I dislike Sundin, I also think that this team would be better with him than without.

re-read...

What cherry-picking? bring up any arguments, I'll be more than happy to debate with you. I mean, how do we nitpick here emailing back n forth? Please don't take it literally about Detroit and not good goaltending, or if Osgood's a Hall of Famer. Of course any team needs good goaltending esp in playoffs. But a team as stacked as detroit, heck, even Sanford would've done alright.

And I'm far from a bandwagon fan; just the canuckleheads, bandwagon fans are the ones who irk me b/c they don't know NOTHING about the history of the canucks. These are fans who only cheered for canucks during their 3 season era of over 100 points, Bure and Bertuzzie eras, yet where are they now?

I didnt start this bandwagon, it's well-known about this city, listen to the Pratt & Taylor show.

 

[aznboi9]

What cherry-picking? bring up any arguments, I'll be more than happy to debate with you. I mean, how do we nitpick here emailing back n forth?

Debating is fine. We all enjoy a good, respectful discussion. I'm just asking that you don't be a dink about it. Denigrating people takes all the fun out of it.

I like what Qtip said.

 

[BJhunter]

I like what Qtip said.

I like your quote under your cartoon figure even better I just hope you meant girls, hahah

 

[moi]

And I'm far from a bandwagon fan; just the canuckleheads, bandwagon fans are the ones who irk me b/c they don't know NOTHING about the history of the canucks. These are fans who only cheered for canucks during their 3 season era of over 100 points, Bure and Bertuzzie eras, yet where are they now?
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So you're saying people shouldn't support hockey teams if they know nothing about the history of the team and didn't support them from the good ol' days? Sorry to say I wasn't around back then, nor did I have an interest in hockey way back when as I was too busy idolizing NKOTB and playing with Strawberry Shortcake. I don't know the history of the Canucks or any other team but Vancouver is my home, and even though i live elsewhere I still support the Canucks, and so does my 5yr old neighbor.

FYI, not all of us are as old as you or were old enough to see them pre-Bure. But we are still fans nonetheless and you are just a self-righteous bastard who deems others as "canuckleheads" just because we don't know every little detail of the history of the team. Get a life.

 

[hunsperger]

EXACTLY! It goes hand in hand with asking every reviewer if the chick, "Sucks good cock" and jerking off to the answer rather than finding out for himself

obviously you speak from experience on the matter...

 

[hunsperger]

FYI, not all of us are as old as you or were old enough to see them pre-Bure. But we are still fans nonetheless and you are just a self-righteous bastard who deems others as "canuckleheads" just because we don't know every little detail of the history of the team. Get a life.

Moi, you're nothing but a simplistic herd animal...

stick to the kitchen and bedroom...

 

[hunsperger]

BJHunter, keep up the prescient analysis...

I'm with you 100%, this signing is much to do about nothing...

what a dumbass hockey town...

 

[BJhunter]

And I'm far from a bandwagon fan; just the canuckleheads, bandwagon fans are the ones who irk me b/c they don't know NOTHING about the history of the canucks. These are fans who only cheered for canucks during their 3 season era of over 100 points, Bure and Bertuzzie eras, yet where are they now?
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So you're saying people shouldn't support hockey teams if they know nothing about the history of the team and didn't support them from the good ol' days? Sorry to say I wasn't around back then, nor did I have an interest in hockey way back when as I was too busy idolizing NKOTB and playing with Strawberry Shortcake. I don't know the history of the Canucks or any other team but Vancouver is my home, and even though i live elsewhere I still support the Canucks, and so does my 5yr old neighbor.

FYI, not all of us are as old as you or were old enough to see them pre-Bure. But we are still fans nonetheless and you are just a self-righteous bastard who deems others as "canuckleheads" just because we don't know every little detail of the history of the team. Get a life.

True, you may not need to know every detail in order to be a canucklehead or fan, but if you hear those fans who think they know it all, but they don't, it'll drive you insane. thus my dislike for them. obviously there's no rule that you have to be knowledgeable first before you cheer for one's home team. i never said that.

but you know how annoying it is when ppl are naive and uneducated. Not only do some don't even know about Linden being traded so many times, let me ask you this, a logical question: How can someone be so 'great' be traded 4 times?

Anyways, moi, you can go suck some bad cock! I was being civil w/ you b/c i can tell you that you don't know much about hockey in general.

 

[trackstar]

Anyways, moi, you can go suck some bad cock!

Cross the line much? What an ass-hole thing to say

 

[BJhunter]

Hey Trackie,

GO SUCK A DICK BJH

When you jump off the bandwagon, take the time to read the previous remark from Moi.

I was only replying to the above response, so I wasn't crossing the line.

I've always felt good about my positions I take, and now I feel even better to see how sensitive, ignorant, naive "some" of you Canuckleheads are.

It may not sound like it, but I'm on the same team; that is, when the canucks score, I do cheer. Even if it's Edler. And Sundin. Or if Luongo and Schneider makes a big save.

But if in my opinion Edler isn't top 2 d-man, and I don't think Schneider is ready for the NHL, then don't get all excited about it, esp. HotAss from Winnipeg. he didn't agree w/ my assessment of the Canucks' prospects, which many NHL experts, analysts have universally agreed that they've messed up over the years, and Mike Gillis announced on his 1st day of the job as GM, "our drafting has to get better".

You have your' opinions, I have mine.

If you guys can't take criticism, then just ignore my replies. I've been having a helluva time, laughing, chuckling, with the canuckleheads' entertaining posts, it just proves to me what a bandwagon city this is and the insane comments, predictions (ie. "bring the cup") and observations here.

Other supporters who've been PM me privately are even asking me why am I stretching out my neck here; partly it's to show to the canuckleheads that it's not all gravy and easy-breezin in Nucks la-la land. When I pick apart this team, you don't need to be an armchair GM to realize that this team can't compete w/ the detroits, san joses, montreals, bostons come playoff time.

We have too many 'ifs', 'but's, etc. to settle; the rest of the teams are already there! What more can you improve on the top tier 1 teams? Here, we still need a few more forwards, playoff ready, battle-driven, another top 2 defenceman to quarterback the powerplay and play physical against the other teams' power forwards, other than poor tiny Bieksa...how's he supposed to handle Joe Thornton, Tomas Holmstrom, etc.?

the rest of the D's are European softies. Salo's injured AGAIN. I'm willing to bet Bieksa will get injured before the season's over.

Guess there isn't a Lidstrom in Edler is there?

 

[moi]

Cross the line much? What an ass-hole thing to say

Lol it's ok, i'm not offended at all. I've had a review on here where it clearly stated I sucked great cock.

He's just upset because when he Pmed me to find out more info and mayb book with me, i rejected him

 

[trackstar]

BJ, I agree with some of your points.
Edler is not a top 2 defenceman.
Schneider is a Blue Chip prospect. 1-2 years away from being NHL ready.
Beiska - #4-6 on defence.
The Draft, all the teams want to do better in the draft!!
Sundin - he'll make a good contribution / trust me.

Dude, ignore his Edler bull shit. ONE guy in a thread long since gone stated that he thinks Edler could be a top 2 defenseman and BJH harps on it forever The same goes for CS. I stated that a media source touted CS as the next Luuongo and of course he personalizes it like it was my opinion and again harps on it forever. It's not even worth addressing.

 

[BJhunter]

Dude, ignore his Edler bull shit. ONE guy in a thread long since gone stated that he thinks Edler could be a top 2 defenseman and BJH harps on it forever The same goes for CS. I stated that a media source touted CS as the next Luuongo and of course he personalizes it like it was my opinion and again harps on it forever. It's not even worth addressing.

Hey dude, thanks for the refresher, I can honestly say that I don't remember which one of you said the Edler and Schneider--hey, I'm fighting the world here, you know, I'm not exactly here taking notes feverishly to keep track of who said what-- you guys are actually taking me off my "does she suck good cock" strategy, is that you guys doing on purpose?

Whether I harp it or not, it's a point of reference that some of the silly things that ppl here, or at my school, at a bar, in the locker room say ALL the time, and if you guys doubt my hockey knowledge, imagine what I have to deal with, when I find out these guys only been watching hockey within the past 5yrs (and I'm being generous here), and these are the real 'armchair GMs'!!!

Give you a great example; one canucklehead said that if "Florida developed and were more patient with Luongo.....", then I cut him off (to avoid any more embarrassment) by saying, "excuse me, did you know that he was actually drafted by the Islanders?"

After a heated 5 min exchange, he finally caved in, "oh well, he probably didn't play long in New York for me to remember, but...."

4. FOUR. yup, 4 seasons before being traded to Florida....

C'est la vie in the life of a bandwagon....

 

[hunsperger]

Sundin - he'll make a good contribution / trust me.

this is a profoundly ignorant comment...

I could accept a comment along the lines of I hope he makes the team better because I am a Canucks fan...

but the fact is you don't know how he will impact the team... who are you Kreskin... and why the hell would I trust you based on some of your earlier observations...

you're the kind of guy who makes ten predictions, is wrong on the first nine, flukes out on the tenth and than says "I told you so"...

BJHunter you're a better man than me when it comes to having the patience to deal with these simpletons...

 

[BJhunter]

I stated that a media source touted CS as the next Luuongo and of course he personalizes it like it was my opinion and again harps on it forever. It's not even worth addressing.

then why do you keep on having an interest, if it's "...not even worth addressing?"

Obviously, you must value what I have to say, since I am a fan but a tough, "old schoolmaster" at that, who doesn't just give out lavish compliments & praises that easily like the canuckleheads do.

I used to work w/ ppl from a bit older generation who are from back east originally, and listening to them, you either can be surprised (if you're a canucklehead) or not surprised to hear them talk about what real success hockey teams aare about, like the Leafs, Canadiens & Wiings back in the past; sure, it may have been some time ago w/ all those Cups w/ only 6 teams, but most everyone says it was the best hockey of its era, w/ free-wheeling offence, none of this clutching & grabbing, or neutral-zone trap, etc.

So they totally don't see why ppl rant & rave over these Nucks for such minor achievements relatively speaking. Maybe that's why i have a higher set of standards as a real Canuck fan, which is different from UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS.

almost like, I see this as 'half-glass empty'; others, 'half-full' but this doesnt necessarily make me a negative person or w/ negative views on these Nucks.

for sure they're moving in a positive direction, an idiot would think otherwise. This sundin signing is a positive one, but it won't be enough, unless Luongo stands on his head like in his 1st year here; last yr was just so-so, he was over-played & again w/ my higher set of values, I don't blame the wife's kid, or battered D's injuries, 29 other teams play w/ injuries, so how does one analyze that objectively? Throw in Roy or Brodeur or Hasek at their prime, doesn't matter how injured the team is, these goalies won games by themselves! See, canuckleheads don't think that way.

Luongo simply wasn't as good in the 2nd half of last season, he'd be the first one to tell you that, and has done so publicly too.

If Sundin & Luongo plays well, they add a quality D man for the powerplay, preferably a physical one, and a playoff veteran who knows how to WIN in the playoffs, then the Nucks can go into 2nd round. Loook at all of the Cup champions, they've got veterans who won before...

who do the Nucks have???? it's laughable if you look at this way so let's see what Hotac et al thinks about their chances...

 

[hunsperger]

Thanks for the kinds words Howie Meeker.

Your old man should hae pulled out and wasted you on the bed sheets when he had the chance.
The world would have been a better place.

Thank you for the kind words...

Have yourself a Merry Xmas...

 

[BJhunter]

No kidding!!!

LOL....kills me how fired up people get over the Canucks.....It's not like their Chuck Liddell or anything. Now that's a different story

You nailed it right there Hubba, almost like a sniper shot there

I'm backing you Hunsperger, these guys are so sensitive, serious, one would think that they're the nucks' PR specialists and staff, good grief...

or maybe it's just a show that they care to prove that they aren't bandwagon fans, eh?!?!

It's CHRISTMAS!!!! Let's all go get a blowjob!!!