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GLOBE EDITORIAL Bill C-51: Soon to be law, and as murky as ever

badbadboy

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/editorials/bill-c-51-soon-to-be-law-and-as-murky-as-ever/article24267240/


We've now got our own Homeland Security Bill soon to become law.



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‘Bill C-51 about to be passed in Canada. See you in the slammer, kids,” Margaret Atwood tweeted on Tuesday. With all due respect to the author of The Handmaid’s Tale, we don’t think she will end up in a prison cell after the Harper government’s anti-terrorism act goes into law.

On the other hand, we don’t exactly know what to expect. The bill remains overbroad and underexplained. The government has rushed it through the House of Commons and kept debate and committee hearings to a minimum. So we join with Ms. Atwood and numerous other critics on the occasion of C-51’s expected passage in the Commons in reminding Ottawa that the bill’s drastic measures are an unjustified infringement of Canadians’ rights.

The bill’s most troubling provisions give unprecedented powers to government departments, to police and to CSIS, the country’s spy agency. Departments will be able to share private information about any person or group deemed a threat to national security. There are protections for “lawful” advocacy, protest, dissent and artistic expression, but the very fact that the bill makes an exception for things that should so obviously be allowed to exist without government interference is concerning.

The law also makes it a crime to communicate support for terrorism “in general” – a provision that could be applied to anyone sharing an online comment that is unrelated to the commission of terrorism offences.

As for CSIS, it will be allowed to “reduce” terrorism threats, but the government has never defined “reduce.” We still don’t know if CSIS agents can detain and interrogate people without proceeding through the Criminal Code and other legal avenues. We do know CSIS will be allowed to violate a suspect’s Charter rights if it can obtain a warrant to do so in a secret hearing with a judge.

As we’ve said before, the government has never justified its need to weaken Canadians’ constitutional protections. It has simply stated that it wants more powers to fight terrorism and then churlishly impugned the motives of anyone who has spoken out against Bill C-51. Ms. Atwood’s invocation of imminent imprisonment may be over the top. But, then again, when a government passes a law that questions basic freedoms and refuses to clarify its scope, people are entitled to expect the worst.
 

steiln

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I would agree with this editorial but then would that be seen as support for terrorism ' in general' ???
 

johnsmit

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I know Canadian laugh when you say we live in a dictatorship. . But this is exactly how it happened in Germany ....by a puppeted democracy elected members ... voting for what ever the leader wanted ...All fanatics. . Like Harpers group .
 

Sexiaccent

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I know Canadian laugh when you say we live in a dictatorship. . But this is exactly how it happened in Germany ....by a puppeted democracy elected members ... voting for what ever the leader wanted ...All fanatics. . Like Harpers group .

or like in the former Soviet Union and any other former communist countries!!!!
 

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Another Snowden release of documents, just in case anyone thinks they have any privacy at all.

https://theintercept.com/2015/09/25/gchq-radio-porn-spies-track-web-users-online-identities/

The article is quite long so I've just quoted the first few paragraphs. There are links to the actual Snowden documents at the end of the article.

THERE WAS A SIMPLE AIM at the heart of the top-secret program: Record the website browsing habits of “every visible user on the Internet.”

Before long, billions of digital records about ordinary people’s online activities were being stored every day. Among them were details cataloging visits to porn, social media and news websites, search engines, chat forums, and blogs.

The mass surveillance operation — code-named KARMA POLICE — was launched by British spies about seven years ago without any public debate or scrutiny. It was just one part of a giant global Internet spying apparatus built by the United Kingdom’s electronic eavesdropping agency, Government Communications Headquarters, or GCHQ.

The revelations about the scope of the British agency’s surveillance are contained in documents obtained by The Intercept from National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden. Previous reports based on the leaked files have exposed how GCHQ taps into Internet cables to monitor communications on a vast scale, but many details about what happens to the data after it has been vacuumed up have remained unclear.

Amid a renewed push from the U.K. government for more surveillance powers, more than two dozen documents being disclosed today by The Intercept reveal for the first time several major strands of GCHQ’s existing electronic eavesdropping capabilities.

One system builds profiles showing people’s web browsing histories. Another analyzes instant messenger communications, emails, Skype calls, text messages, cell phone locations, and social media interactions. Separate programs were built to keep tabs on “suspicious” Google searches and usage of Google Maps.

The surveillance is underpinned by an opaque legal regime that has authorized GCHQ to sift through huge archives of metadata about the private phone calls, emails and Internet browsing logs of Brits, Americans, and any other citizens — all without a court order or judicial warrant.

Metadata reveals information about a communication — such as the sender and recipient of an email, or the phone numbers someone called and at what time — but not the written content of the message or the audio of the call.

As of 2012, GCHQ was storing about 50 billion metadata records about online communications and Web browsing activity every day, with plans in place to boost capacity to 100 billion daily by the end of that year. The agency, under cover of secrecy, was working to create what it said would soon be the biggest government surveillance system anywhere in the world.
 
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