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Well IMHO it is a way for a gal to gouge for extra $'s.....be it for GFE or for GREEK.....meaning that the gal is OK with 1 or the other but decides to put a price premium even though she is OK with the afore mentioned services.
And in my mindset...if a gal wishes to "up-charge" for GFE or for GREEK.....then I will pass on her.....if she offers these things then she must enjoy them.....to bump her price up so as to accord for these services that she enjoys to me is just a blatant "cash grab".
In short either an SP is GFE or not...for her to offer/proffer 2 tiered rates/services is a joke....at $$+ for an encounter us pooners should not have to deal with this BS......it is a razor's edge that a lot of gals walk upon....some claim they are GFE but truth be told they are not.....others that say they are GFE go above and beyond.
To be blunt GFE= passion and kissing....and no holds barred (safety considerations are taken into consideration of course) wild ass crazy sex............considering an hour runs/costs more than the average guy makes in a week this expectation is not too high of a mark.
If a gal achieves/meets your expectations then you repeat and enjoy.....if a gal does not you cross her off your list and post accordingly......with regards to how much fun you had and include the "YMMV" factor.
When it comes down to it this is a review board (much like the other I was on before) and the reviews that are posted by the guys are the literal "salt of the earth".....if some guy that has similar tastes as me has a bad time with a gal then I can gleam information from his review and make an informed decision if I will see the gal as well.....the worst thing is if some SCHMUCK gets obsessed with a gal that he will defend her when another board member posts a less than stellar review.So as to be the proverbial "White Knight" and defends the gal......WAKE UP....these gals are not your GF's/Wives......they are women that have sex with you for money.As much as they admonish you in PM's and posts they dont give a rats ass about you/me/us....they are in this game for 1 thing and 1 only...MONEY
Just my .02
SR
And in my mindset...if a gal wishes to "up-charge" for GFE or for GREEK.....then I will pass on her.....if she offers these things then she must enjoy them.....to bump her price up so as to accord for these services that she enjoys to me is just a blatant "cash grab".
In short either an SP is GFE or not...for her to offer/proffer 2 tiered rates/services is a joke....at $$+ for an encounter us pooners should not have to deal with this BS......it is a razor's edge that a lot of gals walk upon....some claim they are GFE but truth be told they are not.....others that say they are GFE go above and beyond.
To be blunt GFE= passion and kissing....and no holds barred (safety considerations are taken into consideration of course) wild ass crazy sex............considering an hour runs/costs more than the average guy makes in a week this expectation is not too high of a mark.
If a gal achieves/meets your expectations then you repeat and enjoy.....if a gal does not you cross her off your list and post accordingly......with regards to how much fun you had and include the "YMMV" factor.
When it comes down to it this is a review board (much like the other I was on before) and the reviews that are posted by the guys are the literal "salt of the earth".....if some guy that has similar tastes as me has a bad time with a gal then I can gleam information from his review and make an informed decision if I will see the gal as well.....the worst thing is if some SCHMUCK gets obsessed with a gal that he will defend her when another board member posts a less than stellar review.So as to be the proverbial "White Knight" and defends the gal......WAKE UP....these gals are not your GF's/Wives......they are women that have sex with you for money.As much as they admonish you in PM's and posts they dont give a rats ass about you/me/us....they are in this game for 1 thing and 1 only...MONEY
Just my .02
SR
Kim, you have an interesting point. What then, is the difference between plain FS and GFE? By your rationale, GFE is not defined by specific services, but by feelings, so if one is not able (or willing) to pay for the GFE upcharge, does that mean that the SP will be cold, by-the-numbers, and not very friendly? I'm not asking this to be a jerk, I'm just of the opinion (and of the experience) that a good SP provides those "Girlfriend" type, intimate sessions, regardless of any upcharge.
I pretty much agree with storm rider and his assessment. If a girl offers GFE and then wants to upcharge for a BJ that is BS, plain and simple. Part of the GFE experience, along with the "feel" is a BJ be it a CBJ or a BBBJ. If a girl wanted to offer GFE with BJ at an upcharge, that would be an automatic red flag for me and I would pass on her without question. That is a warning sign of possible further concerns once you get further "$$" into a session.
Hell one of my ATF girls that I see regularly advertises as FS and CBJ is included in a session with her. She gives an awesome GFE feeling when I see her, from start to finish and I leave her totally satisfied. She does not offer GFE, but the experience she provides is very much GFE and better than a lot of girls in the industry.
So, long story short, icemanmp1 you are not confused, BJ is part of GFE and what she is offering you seems to be FS with a BJ, which really should be part of that as well. Unless you have a compelling reason to see her, suggest a pass on that one.
Hell one of my ATF girls that I see regularly advertises as FS and CBJ is included in a session with her. She gives an awesome GFE feeling when I see her, from start to finish and I leave her totally satisfied. She does not offer GFE, but the experience she provides is very much GFE and better than a lot of girls in the industry.
So, long story short, icemanmp1 you are not confused, BJ is part of GFE and what she is offering you seems to be FS with a BJ, which really should be part of that as well. Unless you have a compelling reason to see her, suggest a pass on that one.
Agreed. I guess that I've been lucky in choosing SPs that provide that "GFE Feeling", regardless of price or acronyms. YMMV.
Here we go again, it's the pooner's "Neverending Story" to BBBJ or not to BBBJ..........
We are lucky to have so many beautiful ladies who even cater to us. It is all about the money. If you want to know what the price includes, ask, then make your choice. Should you be fortunate enough to meet someone who offers you some great add ons or bonuses then good for you.
It's like some pooners have never bought anything in their life, then get a surprise when they are told it costs more for this or that. Some people live in condos, some in houses, some in mansions. Make your choice, be happy with your decision and enjoy everything to the fullest.
G.A.
It's like some pooners have never bought anything in their life, then get a surprise when they are told it costs more for this or that. Some people live in condos, some in houses, some in mansions. Make your choice, be happy with your decision and enjoy everything to the fullest.
G.A.
I see many girls all over but always go back to my few favorites regularly. I guess I have been lucky to find a few sp’s who call them selves GFE but they really are a wild PSE. I hope everyone else gets as lucky as me.
Boys you should be careful what you wish for. The true GFE experience could also mean frilly bathroom soap, a week without any sex at all, nagging, and us deciding last minute we aren't in the mood. A true GFE experience should really be called The Fantasy.
It's a free market. As a potential client, it's entirely up to us to decide who we go with. If we don't like the menu, we find a different...er..."restaurant". As you said, it's the surprise "corkage" fees that leave a bad taste in the "diner's" mouth. Otherwise, if I really like what a "restaurant" is offering, then I may splurge
Peace Guy put it very well in his posts.
Back in the eighties a service was a service. There was a basic price for the hour of time, and the sexual acts were priced separately. The act of selling sex was limited to the sp and not the agency, who only sold the time slot.
The client could choose what he wanted from the list. Some women, myself included, found it more comfortable to charge a flat rate for included services and create a more natural flow to the time.
In the nineties the agencies took over obtaining payment for sexual services...although they wriggled around explaining it to the new girls. During that period the service became very mechanical and abrupt, and often downright dishonest.
Those few women in each agency who added a personal intimate feeling to their services were labeled GFE. I was considered the ultimate GFE by the Madame I worked for. I did not ever have unprotected sex.
Today GFE has become synonymous with unprotected sex. This phenomenon has blossomed in the last 5 years.
A worker I know who has been out of the biz for 5 years just got back in. I explained what GFE is and she said:
"Holy Shit! I am here to make money, not catch a fucking disease!"
My sentiments exactly.....
Every business owner is entitled to run their business as they see fit. Restaurants, tire shops, shoe stores, etc...etc...you will return if you get quality service at a reasonable price. I will pay more for a product at a business I trust because I know I will be taken care of in the event I need to return an item...I like to reward honest business people with my patronage too! I understand that it is unfair to lure a customer with the promise of something great, only to find out there are hidden costs.
"We are in it for the money" yes, we are. I would not take the risk of fucking strangers if I did not see an opportunity to better my life.
I also own and operate a small business. I am in that to make money too. I purchase products at wholesale prices, mark them up, and sell them to customers. Nobody has ever made me feel like a bad person for being a business operator and they all understand that I am making money off them.
Hands up all you who work at a job or business and are not in it for the money, meaning, you would show up for that job and do it for free.
Back in the eighties a service was a service. There was a basic price for the hour of time, and the sexual acts were priced separately. The act of selling sex was limited to the sp and not the agency, who only sold the time slot.
The client could choose what he wanted from the list. Some women, myself included, found it more comfortable to charge a flat rate for included services and create a more natural flow to the time.
In the nineties the agencies took over obtaining payment for sexual services...although they wriggled around explaining it to the new girls. During that period the service became very mechanical and abrupt, and often downright dishonest.
Those few women in each agency who added a personal intimate feeling to their services were labeled GFE. I was considered the ultimate GFE by the Madame I worked for. I did not ever have unprotected sex.
Today GFE has become synonymous with unprotected sex. This phenomenon has blossomed in the last 5 years.
A worker I know who has been out of the biz for 5 years just got back in. I explained what GFE is and she said:
"Holy Shit! I am here to make money, not catch a fucking disease!"
My sentiments exactly.....
Every business owner is entitled to run their business as they see fit. Restaurants, tire shops, shoe stores, etc...etc...you will return if you get quality service at a reasonable price. I will pay more for a product at a business I trust because I know I will be taken care of in the event I need to return an item...I like to reward honest business people with my patronage too! I understand that it is unfair to lure a customer with the promise of something great, only to find out there are hidden costs.
"We are in it for the money" yes, we are. I would not take the risk of fucking strangers if I did not see an opportunity to better my life.
I also own and operate a small business. I am in that to make money too. I purchase products at wholesale prices, mark them up, and sell them to customers. Nobody has ever made me feel like a bad person for being a business operator and they all understand that I am making money off them.
Hands up all you who work at a job or business and are not in it for the money, meaning, you would show up for that job and do it for free.
I never quite understood the "beating a dead horse" analogy. How else is one supposed to tenderize that nice horsemeat?
Obviously to some the horse isn’t dead yet otherwise they wouldn’t keep bringing the subject up.
