GF had a question...
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Oh dear, this isn't helping...
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Sorry I didn't get the humour...
Thank you for the clarification.
My point had more to do with the fact that, once again, the sale of sexual services is looked upon as something crass, yet the purchase of said services is considered reasonably acceptable.
Thus the couple, mutually involved in the decision to enter the industry, in whatever fashion, is frowned upon and degraded.
If people want to believe that all independent ladies are single and working alone, that's fine. All men only purchase sex, and the ones who are involved in the sale of sex are losers and users, again, that's fine. Unless they produce porn, or act in porn, then that's acceptable. People should just stay blissful...
My point had more to do with the fact that, once again, the sale of sexual services is looked upon as something crass, yet the purchase of said services is considered reasonably acceptable.
Thus the couple, mutually involved in the decision to enter the industry, in whatever fashion, is frowned upon and degraded.
If people want to believe that all independent ladies are single and working alone, that's fine. All men only purchase sex, and the ones who are involved in the sale of sex are losers and users, again, that's fine. Unless they produce porn, or act in porn, then that's acceptable. People should just stay blissful...
very true. couples can mutually team up to make $$$ yes the female provides the service but the male can manage, protect, arrange everything else.. even if it is behind the scenes. that does not necessarily make him a pimp either. if they are a loving couple they operate as one entity, not pimp/prostitute relationship.
it is ideal to think all sp's are single women but truth be told most are not. attractive women usually have a bf or something... would they tell customers? probably not. it is bad for business and not even relevant. and of course anyone the sp is involved with is aware of what they are doing and they either support them or turn a blind eye, if they support them they probably also contribute and help them out in whatever way they can, like my post for example inquiring. seems like most clients don't like the idea of a bf/husband or another male in a sp's life... clients become attached to sp's on a personal level and accept the lifestyle of the sp because it benefits them(services) but it is not feasible for a bf to do the same? bit of a double standard.
money makes the world go round. money is the motivation why a single girl offers services, an attached girl is no different than a single girl, money is the motivator. and if a single girl decides to be a sp, fine it is accepted. a girl in a relationship decides to be a sp, everyone assumes the bf is pimping her! why cant the girl in a relationship decide to be a sp and the bf just accepts it, the money of course naturally benefits him also because he is with her, this does not make him a pimp... they both just benefit. if anything she could be the brains and he is just along for the ride.
every sp has a bf or a man in their life, beleive it or not.. and he likely is not a "pimp" unless he several girls. pimps don't settle for one girl, that is just labelling the bf a pimp.
it is ideal to think all sp's are single women but truth be told most are not. attractive women usually have a bf or something... would they tell customers? probably not. it is bad for business and not even relevant. and of course anyone the sp is involved with is aware of what they are doing and they either support them or turn a blind eye, if they support them they probably also contribute and help them out in whatever way they can, like my post for example inquiring. seems like most clients don't like the idea of a bf/husband or another male in a sp's life... clients become attached to sp's on a personal level and accept the lifestyle of the sp because it benefits them(services) but it is not feasible for a bf to do the same? bit of a double standard.
money makes the world go round. money is the motivation why a single girl offers services, an attached girl is no different than a single girl, money is the motivator. and if a single girl decides to be a sp, fine it is accepted. a girl in a relationship decides to be a sp, everyone assumes the bf is pimping her! why cant the girl in a relationship decide to be a sp and the bf just accepts it, the money of course naturally benefits him also because he is with her, this does not make him a pimp... they both just benefit. if anything she could be the brains and he is just along for the ride.
every sp has a bf or a man in their life, beleive it or not.. and he likely is not a "pimp" unless he several girls. pimps don't settle for one girl, that is just labelling the bf a pimp.
others kept replying. lots of haters is all i've got to say... sad. if anything would people on this board be happy to get a new flavor, go figure.
You go girl!
Thank you so much for your entertaining post. I haven't read 6 pages of posts in a long time, and actually enjoyed the crap flinging, although it was reasonably polite and idealogical pooparatzie. (that's a new Punt trademark--Pooparatzie. I like it 'cuz I just made it up and it mixes feces with speculative shill calling). But I digress, much like the assumptors on this thread.
Crazydog, I have not seen such judgementmental comments and assumptions about other people being tossed about in years. Shame on all the shill callers and shit flingers who have no facts, but make statements as if they know you. Deja vu. I remember fondly a few years back a review about a really hot massage therapist that did 1/2 or FS at a good rate. The reviewer got shill birded from the peanut gallery for page after page from people who had never checked it out! I sensed something honest and truthful in the poster's replies, and ended up going to see the alleged hottie, fully expecting to TOFTT in the name of truth. To this day it was one of the best session I ever had. The shill birds were all wrong. All wrong. All wrong. It is sport to them. They assume the worst but know not the truth. They look for negativity in every situation. I think to be a happy pooner, one needs to look for opportunity in every situation. Karma. Drink a cup folks.
Punt senses in your post consistent and forthright questions and responses. I would like to honour your inquiry with a non-judgemental offering....
Crazydog, if you are OK with your attractive IE GF giving HJ's to other men, (I have no reason to refute either claim), then I concur that $80/45min or $100/hr is reasonable. If you read the Massage and R&T reviews, you will see a pattern that rub/massage skills actually matter! (well, to many massage pooners, especially for longer sessions) Others have asked and you have responded that her HJ skills are solid. That is a good start. OK, a really good start. But I think the R&T providers that have success have a combination of good finish skills AND good massage skills. Sure there will be those that want FS at a HJ price, and will press for more, but there are also provideres that are totally clear about range of services they provide and stick to it. I respect that. However, and I am not sure this has been clearly articulated before, so I hope it helps... MASSAGE SKILLS MATTER. If she just wants to do HJ without massage, then Houston, we might have a problem here. Massage can be learned, but it takes time and practice and coaching, and a desire to really want to make a difference in the other person's well being. If she has this skill and desire, great, her chances of sticking to the HJ limit and having repeat clients would be within her grasp (sorry, the Pun was there). You'd likely be the best judge of her massage skills, but if that is not your thing, many of us massage sluts here would gladly TAMFTT, and give an unbiased assessment. If her massage skills are in early development or not there, then the pressure to go beyond a HJ will be much (MUCH) more intense. Could be a deal breaker for her venture to work or not.
What ever she decides, I wish her and you happy enjoyment and may your dreams come true.
-Punt.
Dear Crazydog,
Thank you so much for your entertaining post. I haven't read 6 pages of posts in a long time, and actually enjoyed the crap flinging, although it was reasonably polite and idealogical pooparatzie. (that's a new Punt trademark--Pooparatzie. I like it 'cuz I just made it up and it mixes feces with speculative shill calling). But I digress, much like the assumptors on this thread.
Crazydog, I have not seen such judgementmental comments and assumptions about other people being tossed about in years. Shame on all the shill callers and shit flingers who have no facts, but make statements as if they know you. Deja vu. I remember fondly a few years back a review about a really hot massage therapist that did 1/2 or FS at a good rate. The reviewer got shill birded from the peanut gallery for page after page from people who had never checked it out! I sensed something honest and truthful in the poster's replies, and ended up going to see the alleged hottie, fully expecting to TOFTT in the name of truth. To this day it was one of the best session I ever had. The shill birds were all wrong. All wrong. All wrong. It is sport to them. They assume the worst but know not the truth. They look for negativity in every situation. I think to be a happy pooner, one needs to look for opportunity in every situation. Karma. Drink a cup folks.
Punt senses in your post consistent and forthright questions and responses. I would like to honour your inquiry with a non-judgemental offering....
Crazydog, if you are OK with your attractive IE GF giving HJ's to other men, (I have no reason to refute either claim), then I concur that $80/45min or $100/hr is reasonable. If you read the Massage and R&T reviews, you will see a pattern that rub/massage skills actually matter! (well, to many massage pooners, especially for longer sessions) Others have asked and you have responded that her HJ skills are solid. That is a good start. OK, a really good start. But I think the R&T providers that have success have a combination of good finish skills AND good massage skills. Sure there will be those that want FS at a HJ price, and will press for more, but there are also provideres that are totally clear about range of services they provide and stick to it. I respect that. However, and I am not sure this has been clearly articulated before, so I hope it helps... MASSAGE SKILLS MATTER. If she just wants to do HJ without massage, then Houston, we might have a problem here. Massage can be learned, but it takes time and practice and coaching, and a desire to really want to make a difference in the other person's well being. If she has this skill and desire, great, her chances of sticking to the HJ limit and having repeat clients would be within her grasp (sorry, the Pun was there). You'd likely be the best judge of her massage skills, but if that is not your thing, many of us massage sluts here would gladly TAMFTT, and give an unbiased assessment. If her massage skills are in early development or not there, then the pressure to go beyond a HJ will be much (MUCH) more intense. Could be a deal breaker for her venture to work or not.
What ever she decides, I wish her and you happy enjoyment and may your dreams come true.
-Punt.
thank you for the informative and actually non-judgmental post. i don't even understand why everyone else has such a issue? it only benefits them if she ended up being really good anyways! oh well can't please everyone i suppose.
people on this board WOULD be happy to get a new flavour; however, no new flavour has been produced. all we know about you are words appearing on a screen. most of the board doesn't believe you've got an ei girlfriend... and they are beginning to think you are a misguided, delusional poster
crazydog and ei gf, you have to shit or get off the pot... not hang around for two weeks wondering publicly whether you want to do it or not
i'm sure you've heard the story about the little boy who got a kick out of seeing people's reactions to him crying out, 'wolf! wolf!' when there wasn't actually any wolves there. one day when he was actually stalked by a wolf and called out for help - nobody paid him any attention because they were tired of being previously led on by the little boy
you are the little boy crying wolf. the rest of the community (haters as you call them) just simply got tired of you vacillating on the subject and stated to pile on to you
this is the internet little boy - man up, make up your mind, and shit or get off the pot... go figure
actually you are wrong. there was negativity from the get go, immediately, right off the bat. we actually figured this would be a good place to get input and good advice, apparently we were wrong.
that is fine, no worries, if we go ahead with it we wont even mention it here. thanks for all the input everybody.... try putting yourself also in somebody's shoes we has never done this, they may want to research it first and start with baby steps. anyways it's all good.
Wow, a six clapper! You are officially on my massage/HJ to do list now. Along with CD's ei GF....
-Punt.
