General Question about Misc Shops & Hobbyist Safety

[lurkerbelow]

Not long ago, I had a run in via text with a handler who responded to my assertion they'd B&S'd me by denying the facts and ultimately messaging me saying I was banned for life and to 'never show my face around here again'

I know multiple shops often promote the same providers and some shops operate under multiple names and sites so have realized I've been a bit gun shy about hobbying lately as some of the providers I'm interested in on other shop sites are also promoted on the site of the shop in question

My question for the community here is two fold:

Firstly, should I take the threatening tone of that last text seriously and worry that some grumpy handler has it in for me and could seek to mess with me if I were to book with an adjacent shop. Or should I not give it a second thought?

And secondly, have any of you ever run afoul of a shop or handler and had them pull anything unruly once you arrived to meet with a provider?

Big advocate for providers' safety and never had issues with any brosans etc but paranoia can conjure some sketchy scenarios that I definitely don't wanna stumble into

Thanks

 

[robi]

Not long ago, I had a run in via text with a handler who responded to my assertion they'd B&S'd me by denying the facts and ultimately messaging me saying I was banned for life and to 'never show my face around here again'

I know multiple shops often promote the same providers and some shops operate under multiple names and sites so have realized I've been a bit gun shy about hobbying lately as some of the providers I'm interested in on other shop sites are also promoted on the site of the shop in question

My question for the community here is two fold:

Firstly, should I take the threatening tone of that last text seriously and worry that some grumpy handler has it in for me and could seek to mess with me if I were to book with an adjacent shop. Or should I not give it a second thought?

And secondly, have any of you ever run afoul of a shop or handler and had them pull anything unruly once you arrived to meet with a provider?

Big advocate for providers' safety and never had issues with any brosans etc but paranoia can conjure some sketchy scenarios that I definitely don't wanna stumble into

Thanks

Just move on, unless you forgot to mention that you burned down their shop after they blackballed you, they're not going to bother doing anything other than blocking your number (if that). They got your money, that's all they care about, not you writing a bad Google Review of them.

And since you used a burner phone, obviously, continue as usual.

https://snipe.net/2023/11/02/mexican-mafia-scams-a-new-twist-on-an-old-trick/

 

[lurkerbelow]

Just move on, unless you forgot to mention that you burned down their shop after they blackballed you, they're not going to bother doing anything other than blocking your number (if that). They got your money, that's all they care about, not you writing a bad Google Review of them.

And since you used a burner phone, obviously, continue as usual.

https://snipe.net/2023/11/02/mexican-mafia-scams-a-new-twist-on-an-old-trick/

I wasn't worried about anything I wrote about them because, aside from posting my question here, I didn't write anything about them or even name the Shop A here

My relatively paranoid thinking had me wondering, if Shop A is affiliated with Shop B, C or D and the same dude handles phones for multiple shops, he might recognize my blocked/banned/blacklisted number the next time I reach out to Shop B, C or D and decide to fuck with me somehow once I arrive to a booked session. Much like the ladies we meet with when TOFTT, we never know exactly what we might be walking into on the other side of the door

I've never owned or used a burner phone

 

[robi]

I wasn't worried about anything I wrote about them because, aside from posting my question here, I didn't write anything about them or even name the Shop A here

My relatively paranoid thinking had me wondering, if Shop A is affiliated with Shop B, C or D and the same dude handles phones for multiple shops, he might recognize my blocked/banned/blacklisted number the next time I reach out to Shop B, C or D and decide to fuck with me somehow once I arrive to a booked session. Much like the ladies we meet with when TOFTT, we never know exactly what we might be walking into on the other side of the door

I've never owned or used a burner phone

You don't need a special phone, a lot of shops are fine with text apps like TextNow or something. That app is free to download and you just delete the number if you don't want it anymore.

 

[Asian Fever]

If you have been banned from a shop, don't try to sneak back. Just go somewhere else. A lot of Chinese shops may allow rejects because the pics are often not real.. in our case, we don't allow walking and do blacklist for that, but our photos are legit so, there is really no excuse, so I think it's a little different. That being said, def wasn't us judging by the messages you received.

As for affiliations, some shops do share bad client numbers. As for the same bookers etc, some of the Chinese shops are not shops, they are basically phone bookers sending referrals (we don't work with those), which is where you get girls with multiple names etc. It's possible some shops will have multiple websites with different names as well (again, not us), to maximize exposure, especially since the Chinese market does not tend to repeat, so they always want the new girl and name changes are beneficial to them etc, and why the same girls bounce from place to place to always be new etc.

Don't read into the message too much. As much as American television or peoples imagination likes to think the industry is run by gangsters, it is not. They just don't want you as a client. Booking and walking is a colossal waste of everyone's time... but then again so is bait and switch so can't really blame you there.

That app is free to download and you just delete the number if you don't want it anymore.

Exactly why we don't take bookings from those.

 

[lurkerbelow]

If you have been banned from a shop, don't try to sneak back. Just go somewhere else. A lot of Chinese shops may allow rejects because the pics are often not real.. in our case, we don't allow walking and do blacklist for that, but our photos are legit so, there is really no excuse, so I think it's a little different. That being said, def wasn't us judging by the messages you received.

As for affiliations, some shops do share bad client numbers. As for the same bookers etc, some of the Chinese shops are not shops, they are basically phone bookers sending referrals (we don't work with those), which is where you get girls with multiple names etc. It's possible some shops will have multiple websites with different names as well (again, not us), to maximize exposure, especially since the Chinese market does not tend to repeat, so they always want the new girl and name changes are beneficial to them etc, and why the same girls bounce from place to place to always be new etc.

Don't read into the message too much. As much as American television or peoples imagination likes to think the industry is run by gangsters, it is not. They just don't want you as a client. Booking and walking is a colossal waste of everyone's time... but then again so is bait and switch so can't really blame you there.



Exactly why we don't take bookings from those.

Much appreciate the response. Thanks

Yeah, I had / have no intention of trying to sneak back in to that place or see any of their SPs. The ban and blacklist is mutual as far as I'm concerned lol

And no, it absolutely was not you guys. I've chosen not to name the shop in this thread or reply to PMs requesting the info simply because I wasn't posting to try and bad mouth them or take money from their legit SP's. Just wanted some feedback from the community in general