Gaza: 'Unprecedented and unparalleled' civilian death toll: Guterres

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Actually, just read the one Guardian article with diagrams, that would learn ya even if you have trouble reading words. But you can't because it crushes your tinfoil Truth Social formed worldview. Post some current articles that refute the article. I have posted a half dozen including from a centrist Israeli news source published in Jerusalem that support my thesis. Go ahead, educate me.
Even individual IDF members are now worried about being personally charged with WAR CRIMES related to Collective Punishment.
Every time you cite the Gaurdian, I have to laugh.

Their circulation numbers are so low that they stopped publishing them.

Nobody reads the Gaurdian.

Nobody pays to read the Gaurdian.

It's a caricature of a news source.

It's a joke.
 

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Actually, just read the one Guardian article with diagrams, that would learn ya even if you have trouble reading words. But you can't because it crushes your tinfoil Truth Social formed worldview. Post some current articles that refute the article. I have posted a half dozen including from a centrist Israeli news source published in Jerusalem that support my thesis. Go ahead, educate me.
Even individual IDF members are now worried about being personally charged with WAR CRIMES related to Collective Punishment.
You’re embarrassing yourself. Please stop. Diagrams? FFS!
 
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I like to think that if some asshole fired rockets into any Canadian city, the police would hunt down and catch that criminal.

When you are fighting for your survival and people are launching rocket grenades at your people and infrastructure, you are going to get a little mad about it. You find those people and you beat them down, so they don't try it again.

When that dosen't work (because you put them in jail for their crimes), and rockets are still falling on your people/country, you kill them.

When your survival is at stake, rules from the UN don't mean crap.

Here in North America, we have to contend with mental non stable personalities the commit mass murder. In Europe they have to contend with poor Muslim immigrant men, who are unemployed and cause trouble/crimes that normal people in the country wouldn't commit (terrorist activities or criminal).

But the reality is that we live in a well protected society here in the west. We don't have to face the harsh environment of war or poverty or genocide. We are fucking little bratty children, educated to think violence is bad and you shouldn't do it. When push comes to shove, you better be fucken pushing back.

People don't like that little kids are starving, but in 1 generation those starving little kids will be lobing rocket grenades back into Israel when they reach their teenage years.

Here is another thought, there seem to be people that have immigrated to Canada (and other countries) from the GAZA strip. Yet they return to the hell hole of a country that is controlled by Hamas. I have to wonder why? When you ask them about Hamas they are adamant that Hamas is a criminal organization, yet Israel is held on the same level of contempt that Hamas is. Both sides hate and hate and hate each other.

Also there is the fact that any other Arab country will not take Palestinians in GAZA /West Bank as immigrants, because they don't want them creating the same shit they are doing in their Country (Egypt, Jordan, Syria etc) as they are doing in GAZA and the West Bank. Wonder why? Why did Egypt close their border to the GAZA strip.

If the remaining people in GAZA are not willing to give up the Hamas fighters and supporters in their refugee camps, they will keep getting bombed. Innocent people will die. They are protecting people in an organization (Hamas) that wants to commit genocide on the whole of Israel.

If your eye offended thee, cut it out. Shit that is Biblical.....
 

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The world is witnessing an "unparalleled and unprecendented" level of civilian death, compared to any other conflict since he became Secretary-General in 2017.

https://turkiye.un.org/en/253313-gaza-unprecedented-and-unparalleled-civilian-death-toll-guterres sEx tRung

Britain started Gaza conflict over a century ago. The corruption of Empire. Britain can finish it.

The innocence the world continue to suffer across the globe. Why do innocent people have to die because of foolish rulers?
 
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The innocence the world continue to suffer across the globe. Why do innocent people have to die because of foolish rulers?

why do you think they're innocent?

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/po...for-hamas-in-gaza-exposes-liberal-ndp-naivete

do you think it's Swedish Gramas that walked across the fence and raped and killed, took hostages?

that voted in Hamas? that have sat by for over a decade without an election?

while they killed others to gain power?

do you think the Billion plus Chinese can't rise up and overthrow the few hundred thousand party members?

how about the Russians who have also never known real democracy?

innocent? no, weak, compliant, willing enablers, yes

cause there have never been any successful uprisings and deposing of foolish rulers before

Syrians, 6 decades under the same family, North Korea, ect....


then when they do try, where is the west, democracies

they do what they're doing now, nothing, they should be all behind the Jews until the TERRORISTS are gone

which is what is good for Gaza, even if they're too stupid to do it themselves

adults are innocent, no

they're not children, they're adults, it's why it keeps happening, cause they choose not to act like adults
 

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The innocence the world continue to suffer across the globe. Why do innocent people have to die because of foolish rulers?
The innocence suffer because they are told they are powerless to stop what is happening, and because they are sheep. They see their neighbors getting beaten and taken away never to be seen again in the light of day. These regimes rule by fear and violence, because they are a fractured society and are kept fractured by race, violence, poverty, hunger etc.
Most governments have too much of their own problems to deal with, woke idiots, dumb inbred people, religious fanatics who protest abortions cause its murder, with a rising world population with not enough resource to feed everybody (proof - people today are still starving), general malaise of people in other countries who are dealing with their own fucked up problems. US against Thems... People with their heads up their asses.

OH forgot the one that matters the most-- there is no money to be made by other people stepping in and correcting the problems.. The world runs and evolves around money.....
 
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According to PAMCo, the Guardian is the most read quality news brand in the UK, cross-platform, with an average of 22.4 million unique visitors monthly. “Globally, we have 81 million unique visitors each month, and that includes 2.7 million in India, which is our fifth biggest market,” Sylvestre added.Nov 24, 2023

Maybe your spelling is a reflection of your reading ability?

Every time you cite the Gaurdian, I have to laugh.

Their circulation numbers are so low that they stopped publishing them.

Nobody reads the Gaurdian.

Nobody pays to read the Gaurdian.

It's a caricature of a news source.

It's a joke.
 

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According to PAMCo, the Guardian is the most read quality news brand in the UK, cross-platform, with an average of 22.4 million unique visitors monthly. “Globally, we have 81 million unique visitors each month, and that includes 2.7 million in India, which is our fifth biggest market,” Sylvestre added.Nov 24, 2023

Maybe your spelling is a reflection of your reading ability?
Uncle Leo?

What's PAMco?

Never heard of it.
 
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Basing one’s worldview one a single source, especially one so openly biased as the Guardian, is not good.
At least look at what those you disagree with are basing their opinions on.
The Guardian is not infallible and neither is anyone else.
 
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Today, In London, England, police officers refused to arrest pro Hamas demonstrators carrying signs with swastikas on them.

They argued with a Jewish woman, that a swastika must be taken in "in context", and isn't necessarily threatening. At a Gaza/Hamas/anti-Israel march.

How far has western society fallen when police are so cowed by ignorance, mob rule and the power of Islamic militance?
 

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Basing one’s worldview one a single source, especially one so openly biased as the Guardian, is not good.
At least look at what those you disagree with are basing their opinions on.
The Guardian is not infallible and neither is anyone else.
Single source? Refresh yourself with post #32 which even includes the Times of Israel. I just knock down each of your 'strawmen' one by one, while you guys occupy yourselves talking shit and Israel continues to block aid delivery to Gaza.
 

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Today, In London, England, police officers refused to arrest pro Hamas demonstrators carrying signs with swastikas on them.

They argued with a Jewish woman, that a swastika must be taken in "in context", and isn't necessarily threatening. At a Gaza/Hamas/anti-Israel march.

How far has western society fallen when police are so cowed by ignorance, mob rule and the power of Islamic militance?
you don't have to look to England

it happened in BC just recently in their provincial government

it's happening in our Federal Government, with the Turd and his NDP houseboy

the police here too, specially in Toronto, because the politicians won't tell them to enforce the law

go listen to the woman, Selina Robinson talk about it here, BC, a minister

Eby is a gutless POS with no character, spine or backbone

it's cause they're Jews, nothing else

like she's mentioned in an interview

where are all the Islamist freedom fighters on the Sudan? crickets

the NDP, crickets, the Turd's cult, crickets

the boycott on China cause of the Muslim Uyghurs, from all those Jew haters, crickets
 

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Single source? Refresh yourself with post #32 which even includes the Times of Israel. I just knock down each of your 'strawmen' one by one, while you guys occupy yourselves talking shit and Israel continues to block aid delivery to Gaza.
aid delivery to Gaza is also being "blocked"

by the actions of Hamas

little wonder why they're not letting anything and everything in, cause others would "aid" their enemies

look at how much the UK/Canada/US sent to Germany

there was no blockaid of the north sea in WW11

and Egypt is also involved in blocking that aid, they have the ability to break the agreement they have with Israel involving the Raffa crossing

they don't want to, why?

cause they don't want Hamas to succeed
 

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People don't like that little kids are starving, but in 1 generation those starving little kids will be lobing rocket grenades back into Israel when they reach their teenage years.

Same goes for the Israelis - every single one of them upon adulthood joins the Israeli military or police, and their job becomes to step on or kill Palestinians. Oddly enough, the only exception to that universal military service is the ultra-religious settlers who will on their own try to take Palestinian land for their own settlements, whether the law allows it or not. (Something which other Israelis actually resent.)

In the end how is it any different? People indoctrinated into that life from childhood, basically claiming that the other side's children are just untrained soldiers who deserve to get killed before they are able to fight back.

Hamas is not any more religiously fanatical than those settlers, and one side is not more innocent than the other. Neither side respects the combatant/non-combatant distinction. And they being played false by leaders who stoke up wars just to bolster their own political power.

This is why other nations should not try to take sides as if one side is good and the other is evil. Stay the fuck out of a conflict you do not understand and cannot solve.

That kind of rational outlook is too adult & worldly for the politically-motivated hypocrisy going on in Canada's politics right now, but it's the truth.
 

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Same goes for the Israelis - every single one of them upon adulthood joins the Israeli military or police, and their job becomes to step on or kill Palestinians. Oddly enough, the only exception to that universal military service is the ultra-religious settlers who will on their own try to take Palestinian land for their own settlements, whether the law allows it or not. (Something which other Israelis actually resent.)

In the end how is it any different? People indoctrinated into that life from childhood, basically claiming that the other side's children are just untrained soldiers who deserve to get killed before they are able to fight back.

Hamas is not any more religiously fanatical than those settlers, and one side is not more innocent than the other. Neither side respects the combatant/non-combatant distinction. And they being played false by leaders who stoke up wars just to bolster their own political power.

This is why other nations should not try to take sides as if one side is good and the other is evil. Stay the fuck out of a conflict you do not understand and cannot solve.

That kind of rational outlook is too adult & worldly for the politically-motivated hypocrisy going on in Canada's politics right now, but it's the truth.
Israel has endured multiple unprovoked attacks by its Arab/Muslim neighbours since its inception.

All of them ultimately unsuccessful.

Israel has a peace treaty with Egypt.

There have attempts at other treaties.

The "Palestinians" have been offered various peace deals which they turned down.

Too bad.

It's on them.
 
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