In say the next 10 to 15 years, what will become of future jobs or careers? I'm thinking many retail jobs will be eliminated as everyone will be purchasing many goods online. Government jobs are decreasing. Many customer service jobs at many financial institutions will be cut as most banking is done online as well. Whatever jobs are available, will the pay be below average? Most industries are dominated by a few companies in every sector where it will be little choice or almost a monopoly. If the U.S. collapses or goes down, it will have a trickle down effect here and globally. The chances of any small business surviving will be slimmer and slimmer in the next few years. They just can't compete with the big players unless their business just basically allows owners to make a modest living. Most businesses I see have such slim margins now. And whatever high positions are available, there's probably 1,000 applicants for just one job. I think it might be scary times ten years from now…...
Future of Jobs or Careers
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good topic…and I think it all depends on the type of job/career you're after.
you mentioned 'customer service' types of jobs, but there are other sectors.
trades:
I think I read in recent news
that BCIT received big $$$ to expand its trade courses. the current demand is
overwhelming but there aren't enough classrooms to fulfill enrollment.
technology:
if computers are the common tools to do business globally, then it's a good bet
that the guys/gals who live and breathe the stuff will always get work.
I'm thinking more of the people who invent softwares and configure the OS.
social media:
all that FB-ing, tweeter-ing, Instagram-ing, PERB-ing ; ) etc have filtered into corporations as well.
another task for the PR person.
it's becoming more common now for most companies to adapt SM as a branding strategy
and someone needs to quarterback those platform full-time.
design:
architects, interior design, web design, animators, visual artists, photographer, etc.
sounds glamorous but expect some downtime. most task require long hours.
food industry:
food network porn only adds fuel to the fire.
professional athlete:
we can all dream but kudos to those who are good enough to make a living at it.
also, a good education co-relates with a good job.
but hey, school isn't for everyone…but that's the difference between making it and getting by.
you mentioned 'customer service' types of jobs, but there are other sectors.
trades:
I think I read in recent news
that BCIT received big $$$ to expand its trade courses. the current demand is
overwhelming but there aren't enough classrooms to fulfill enrollment.
technology:
if computers are the common tools to do business globally, then it's a good bet
that the guys/gals who live and breathe the stuff will always get work.
I'm thinking more of the people who invent softwares and configure the OS.
social media:
all that FB-ing, tweeter-ing, Instagram-ing, PERB-ing ; ) etc have filtered into corporations as well.
another task for the PR person.
it's becoming more common now for most companies to adapt SM as a branding strategy
and someone needs to quarterback those platform full-time.
design:
architects, interior design, web design, animators, visual artists, photographer, etc.
sounds glamorous but expect some downtime. most task require long hours.
food industry:
food network porn only adds fuel to the fire.
professional athlete:
we can all dream but kudos to those who are good enough to make a living at it.
also, a good education co-relates with a good job.
but hey, school isn't for everyone…but that's the difference between making it and getting by.
I look at the generation coming up and for one, I am concerned. The work ethic of this generation overall seems to be non existent. I'm not saying that these kids aren't intelligent, there just seems to be a lack of desire to get up off their gaming asses and do something, anything. Go to any box store that hires these younger people and watch them in action.... On their smartphones!! Ask for some assistance, it's not their department. The ambition today is not what it used to be and I know it leaves me scratching my head as if to say "where did we go wrong"?
Well, I view it as being a lack of competition for my job.
I was / am in IT for that...gawd...years. My job is pretty secure, but I've already branched out and started my own development company.
You would be surprised at the amount of clients who still want a face to face chat with a real person. I don't fear for retail because so many people still want to go in and have a tactile experience. Same for small business. Sure, my competition is large business, but they are, generally, impersonal. I charge much more for my time than the large guys, but my level of service is far ahead of theirs.
All my friends started working for large companies (ie. accounting / business / writing) and they've all ended up starting their own business and doing quite well. If you're smart and can fill a niche, you'll do just fine.
We just need to teach our kids to look for opportunities and, if none are available, to make one themselves.
Trades - North America simply doesn't value skilled trades like they do in say Germany where a carpenter makes damn good money and doesn't top out at $40/hr for the best finishing carpenter. We encourage kids to be doctors but look down on a plumber. Reality is that a steadily working independent plumber (even if he sticks with residential work) makes about as much as a family GP.
The trades training in BC in "Anticipation" of future LNG or shipbuilding work is absolutely necessary but also risky if these future mega-contracts don't materialize. It's the provinces fault in the 90's/early 2000's for cutting funding to high school trades programs and diverting resources to IT training. Now look at how many unemployed programmers/developers there are. The foreign worker issue in trades is a result of the lack of domestic trades training.
There will always be a need for traditional careers -
medicine - people will keep getting sick
accounting/finance - someone's gotta keep track of the money
law - no second in sight for legal matters
Careers in the traditional sense are obsolete. Your dad may have gotten a job out of high school and was chained to his desk for 40 years but you won't be. The growth is in small/medium sized businesses that people start themselves. Service industries to help a generation of people who grew up so focused on getting a degree that they forgot to be exposed to stuff like- cleaning the house, being handy, basic car repairs, gardening, walking the dog, etc.
Kids to day seem unmotivated because they don't see the future like we saw it. With housing prices in the stratosphere, the concept of home ownership is way less desirable or achievable. That the good jobs are going overseas is also discouraging. With all the obvious negatives it's no wonder that kids are saying "why bother". It's our own fault for creating a North American utopia that has never seen war or famine. We have an incredibly high standard of living and people don't fight to make it better. Immigrants (highly educated ones) give up everything to come to our shores to practice as doctors ...they end up driving cabs. Yet they stay and keep working (and trying to learn a new language) because it's still a hell of a lot better than back in their part of the world. The reverse is hardly true. Not a lot of fresh engineering grads are willing to move to Asia where the jobs are because it's just too comfortable here.
The trades training in BC in "Anticipation" of future LNG or shipbuilding work is absolutely necessary but also risky if these future mega-contracts don't materialize. It's the provinces fault in the 90's/early 2000's for cutting funding to high school trades programs and diverting resources to IT training. Now look at how many unemployed programmers/developers there are. The foreign worker issue in trades is a result of the lack of domestic trades training.
Not necessarily. There are a lot of graduates serving coffee. Always will be from here on in as we export jobs to cheaper parts of the world.
There will always be a need for traditional careers -
medicine - people will keep getting sick
accounting/finance - someone's gotta keep track of the money
law - no second in sight for legal matters
Careers in the traditional sense are obsolete. Your dad may have gotten a job out of high school and was chained to his desk for 40 years but you won't be. The growth is in small/medium sized businesses that people start themselves. Service industries to help a generation of people who grew up so focused on getting a degree that they forgot to be exposed to stuff like- cleaning the house, being handy, basic car repairs, gardening, walking the dog, etc.
Kids to day seem unmotivated because they don't see the future like we saw it. With housing prices in the stratosphere, the concept of home ownership is way less desirable or achievable. That the good jobs are going overseas is also discouraging. With all the obvious negatives it's no wonder that kids are saying "why bother". It's our own fault for creating a North American utopia that has never seen war or famine. We have an incredibly high standard of living and people don't fight to make it better. Immigrants (highly educated ones) give up everything to come to our shores to practice as doctors ...they end up driving cabs. Yet they stay and keep working (and trying to learn a new language) because it's still a hell of a lot better than back in their part of the world. The reverse is hardly true. Not a lot of fresh engineering grads are willing to move to Asia where the jobs are because it's just too comfortable here.
Retail will not die out, people still want to try and buy things on the spot. A website is really just a glorified mail order catalog from days gone by but now the catalog is worldwide. People have been predicting the paperless office ever since the early 80's and there is even more paper than ever.
Technology has added and eliminated jobs since the Industrial Revolution. We don't need people riding horses to deliver messages anymore but do require IT technicians to maintain and fix the telephone/computer systems.
200 years ago, pretty much everyone was working on the farm. Now farmers are around 1% of the jobs and feed the other 99%.
Technology has added and eliminated jobs since the Industrial Revolution. We don't need people riding horses to deliver messages anymore but do require IT technicians to maintain and fix the telephone/computer systems.
200 years ago, pretty much everyone was working on the farm. Now farmers are around 1% of the jobs and feed the other 99%.
why so glum chum
There are tons of opportunities out there! First you have to stop looking for a job or a career. Get passionate about something. Start thinking about value and less about money. Yea there is old money and family money. Those people if not careful loose that fast. Those that are really successful are not the ones chasing money but chasing a dream.
Most young people have no idea what is imortant to them. If they say money they are doomed. Most people have no idea what will make them happy. If you have no idea where you are going more than likely you will never get there.
Lots of kids come in with a PhD and want a job. They want big buck and they want me to tell them how to provide value. They need to beable to show me how they can provide value and prove it then I will pay them more.
It is not about the fancy car, the 1000 dollar suits or the big house. Who gives a shit. I gave up on that shit a long time ago. In some of my offices we play is it my 2000 dollar suit or my 200 suit most cases they cannot tell the difference.
My feeling is the future is very bright for those that see it vs those who do not. What is said there are those complain about it, those talk about it and those do something about it. Those that do will out perform ther other two.
There will big business in helping people be happy as we have no idea about being happy.
More and more businesses to provide value to shareholders, more value to consumers, to suppliers, and employees.
It really comes down to see value and provide it to those who are willing to pay. If they are not willing to pay then we did not show or prove the value. If you can then you will have a way of life not a job or a career.
I live my companies everyday. I am looking for value all the time. They are not jobs to me or a career. It is who I am and they are a part of me. I have no social life out side my businesses. Some say that is sick yet but I have no regrets. Besides I have the hobby.
There are tons of opportunities out there! First you have to stop looking for a job or a career. Get passionate about something. Start thinking about value and less about money. Yea there is old money and family money. Those people if not careful loose that fast. Those that are really successful are not the ones chasing money but chasing a dream.
Most young people have no idea what is imortant to them. If they say money they are doomed. Most people have no idea what will make them happy. If you have no idea where you are going more than likely you will never get there.
Lots of kids come in with a PhD and want a job. They want big buck and they want me to tell them how to provide value. They need to beable to show me how they can provide value and prove it then I will pay them more.
It is not about the fancy car, the 1000 dollar suits or the big house. Who gives a shit. I gave up on that shit a long time ago. In some of my offices we play is it my 2000 dollar suit or my 200 suit most cases they cannot tell the difference.
My feeling is the future is very bright for those that see it vs those who do not. What is said there are those complain about it, those talk about it and those do something about it. Those that do will out perform ther other two.
There will big business in helping people be happy as we have no idea about being happy.
More and more businesses to provide value to shareholders, more value to consumers, to suppliers, and employees.
It really comes down to see value and provide it to those who are willing to pay. If they are not willing to pay then we did not show or prove the value. If you can then you will have a way of life not a job or a career.
I live my companies everyday. I am looking for value all the time. They are not jobs to me or a career. It is who I am and they are a part of me. I have no social life out side my businesses. Some say that is sick yet but I have no regrets. Besides I have the hobby.
Good points but it's also a numbers game. Only 10% of people...those who actually "see it"...will be successful and make money. Passion, hard work etc. all factor in but there's also timing, networking, and a bit of luck thrown in. Like the pro athlete that the OP mentioned - Out of all the kids that play a certain sport whatever it may be, how many of them make it as a pro vs. how many don't. There are only 30 starting goalie positions in the NHL. Out of those guys only about 3 provide ultimate value to their team, the fans and the league. It's a small/specific example but it reflects what's out there.
The key to success in any chosen field is portability/mobility. Go where the jobs are. It's the reason why the US is getting a lot of BC's Nursing grads. It's why trades guys are all headed to the tar sands. If you want to live in Vancouver or any big city, be prepared to have a minimum wage service job. Best time to be mobile is when you're young and have almost zero responsibilities/encumbrances that tie you down to a specific location. do it while your parents are still healthy enough to care for themselves. Do it before you knock some chick up and have a kid.
The key to success in any chosen field is portability/mobility. Go where the jobs are. It's the reason why the US is getting a lot of BC's Nursing grads. It's why trades guys are all headed to the tar sands. If you want to live in Vancouver or any big city, be prepared to have a minimum wage service job. Best time to be mobile is when you're young and have almost zero responsibilities/encumbrances that tie you down to a specific location. do it while your parents are still healthy enough to care for themselves. Do it before you knock some chick up and have a kid.
smart people create there own jobs or opportunities' or work for that matter,
but unfortunately it doesn't always work like that,
parts of Europe are 50 percent unemployment for younger people.
In our building I talked a couple of new guys cleaning the toilets, one from Greece the other from Liverpool, they can not buy a job beg borrow or steal a job back home,
I agree the future looks bleak, my job can be replaced by technology its out there,
Listening from some one from the IMF, If Greece would have just stopped the corruption they would be fine,
I wonder how much does black market and corruption play in all of this.
but unfortunately it doesn't always work like that,
parts of Europe are 50 percent unemployment for younger people.
In our building I talked a couple of new guys cleaning the toilets, one from Greece the other from Liverpool, they can not buy a job beg borrow or steal a job back home,
I agree the future looks bleak, my job can be replaced by technology its out there,
Listening from some one from the IMF, If Greece would have just stopped the corruption they would be fine,
I wonder how much does black market and corruption play in all of this.
How about the delivery service industry? If so much is being purchased online, how does the customer receive the goods?
In the US, that would mean many of the jobs would be union jobs. Not sure about in Canada, but these jobs do pay quite well for what is pretty much a non-skilled position.
In the US, that would mean many of the jobs would be union jobs. Not sure about in Canada, but these jobs do pay quite well for what is pretty much a non-skilled position.
Yeah, pro athletes. Like Charles Barkley once said, if you played 1 minute in the NBA you are already a superstar. The odds are like the lottery to ever step on to a court.
