Full Service and your SP

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I'm a little new to this and have seen a few sp's but never had "full service". Of course it was offered or on the menu but I haven't gone through with it. Its a fear of catching something that is keeping me from full on fucking - guess I'm a chicken shit... Anyone else have this fear - have any of you long timers ever caught anything and brought it home to your SO?

Weigh in please.
 

steverino

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I think most of the folks on the board have overcome the fear.
 

sevenofnine

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not an expert,
but can you not catch things from oral

well giving,
but recieving with a condom shouldn't the risk be the same,
so a covered blow job and covered full service the risk should be the same shouldn't it

like i said not an expert

and as a long timer, well im not haveing sex with my wife, so the risk is nil of bringing anything home to her.


and as an old fart, im not really worried about any std.
and as it happened to work out the lady i see is safe everything covered, almost as safe as you can be in this hobby i guess.
but i do perform oral on her, and some people don't think that is safe but oh well

and recently i have taken to rimming her or dato, what ever you want to call it, not everyones taste,
but there was a thread on the safty of that.


in all honesty the only thing i have caught is well a sore throat.
i have a foot fetish and the lady one particular lady had smelly feet, i came away with a bad sore throat from that.
 

satinguy

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not an expert,
but can you not catch things from oral
Safety is something i think both the Ladies and Gentlemen on this Board take very seriously. I have heared conflcting stories about the BBBJ and wish there was a definitive answer. Some people say yes it is safe, others say No it isn't safe. Any Nurses or Doctors here that can say for sure?
 

Pillowtalk

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Safety is something i think both the Ladies and Gentlemen on this Board take very seriously. I have heared conflcting stories about the BBBJ and wish there was a definitive answer. Some people say yes it is safe, others say No it isn't safe. Any Nurses or Doctors here that can say for sure?
Health Nurse is in the Health forum. :)
 

lenny

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Safety is something i think both the Ladies and Gentlemen on this Board take very seriously. I have heared conflcting stories about the BBBJ and wish there was a definitive answer. Some people say yes it is safe, others say No it isn't safe. Any Nurses or Doctors here that can say for sure?
You don't need to be a doctor to know that STIs can be passed via BBBJs.

Anyone that says otherwise might as well insist the earth is flat & is the centre of the universe.

Even those who consider it relatively "safe", very low risk, or acceptably dangerous do not generally argue this point.

http://www.avert.org/oral-sex.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/oralsex.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_sex#Health_risks_and_other_studies
http://std.about.com/od/riskfactorsforstds/a/oralsexsafesex.htm
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/19/how_risky_is_oral_sex/
 

lenny

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I'm a little new to this and have seen a few sp's but never had "full service". Of course it was offered or on the menu but I haven't gone through with it. Its a fear of catching something that is keeping me from full on fucking - guess I'm a chicken shit... Anyone else have this fear - have any of you long timers ever caught anything and brought it home to your SO?

Weigh in please.
To answer your question, there is no doubt some of them have brought home to their
wives the gift that keeps on giving.

So if you want to be relatively safe, not 100% safe, do things with SP's that are virtually
no risk for STI's, like a HJ, CBJ, covered DATY & DATO, etc. Even for the HJ a medical
glove can be used & IME it will feel just as good.
 

vancity_cowboy

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Safety is something i think both the Ladies and Gentlemen on this Board take very seriously. I have heared conflcting stories about the BBBJ and wish there was a definitive answer. Some people say yes it is safe, others say No it isn't safe. Any Nurses or Doctors here that can say for sure?
i'm no doctor, but i'll tell ya something about safety that no doctor will disagree with

people who have sex with multiple partners are considered to be in a high risk category

there are methods of reducing the degree of risk; however, there is NO WAY of eliminating the risk entirely

the lowest risk behaviour is to decide with whom you would like to enter into a monogamous relationship, both of you get thoroughly tested for sti's at whatever interval your doctor recommends, then if you both test negative for sti's you may proceed to have monogamous sex with that individual

note that even that procedure carries the risk of that partner not being truthful about their activities, and banging somebody on the sly, but it's about the best you can do

everything else carries varying degrees of higher risk
 

tterserah

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To answer your question, there is no doubt some of them have brought home to their
wives the gift that keeps on giving.

So if you want to be relatively safe, not 100% safe, do things with SP's that are virtually
no risk for STI's, like a HJ, CBJ, covered DATY & DATO, etc. Even for the HJ a medical
glove can be used & IME it will feel just as good.
Never heard of covered DATY, can anyone explain?
 

lenny

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sevenofnine

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the only safe thing is to stay at home
but then a tire might fall of an airplane and come through your roof
 

blazejowski

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Can't blame you for that - it's all about your comfort level and what risks you're comfortable taking. There's no point in doing something that's supposed to be fun if you're scared the entire time because you aren't comfortable.
To be honest, for me covered feels almost the same as uncovered, so why not be safe if it doesn't matter either way to me in a session. Plus, if I happen to shoot my gun earlier than planned, the SP doesn't have to make that face they all make... LOL

So, You've stopped giving them now have you blaze...lol I jest
Depends on how cute he is.... ;)
 

OldbutwiseSP

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If you express this fear to the SP and request that she provide you with her recent test results then it shouldn't bother you. Now when you speak to the SP make sure to explain yourself fully as to avoid offending her and if she is any kind of provider I doubt she will have a problem given adequate time to get tested or request her recent test results from her GP.
Good luck!
PS And don't forget to have fun!
:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
 

Pillowtalk

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If you express this fear to the SP and request that she provide you with her recent test results then it shouldn't bother you. Now when you speak to the SP make sure to explain yourself fully as to avoid offending her and if she is any kind of provider I doubt she will have a problem given adequate time to get tested or request her recent test results from her GP.
Good luck!
PS And don't forget to have fun!
:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

The question itself will always be offensive. I think clients would benefit by not asking, because asking tends to set a negative tone. Simply use safe sex methods, and be done with it. No sp here should feel obliged to present std test results on demand, it's also a false sense of security. The results are already a week out of date by the time they are received. Anyone ready to show them with a flourish should know how pointless it is.
 

OldbutwiseSP

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The question itself will always be offensive. I think clients would benefit by not asking, because asking tends to set a negative tone. Simply use safe sex methods, and be done with it. No sp here should feel obliged to present std test results on demand, it's also a false sense of security. The results are already a week out of date by the time they are received. Anyone ready to show them with a flourish should know how pointless it is.
You know you raise a great point! But I am not suggesting that every client ask every SP for their paperwork merely that in this case one might make an exception.And only of course if he was very respectful and explained that it was an issue for him, maybe even a phobia and in no way does he think she is dirty. But I did overlook the obvious-that anyone can purchase false test results etc etc I guess he may just have find another way to get over his fears. peace
 

yazoo

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It's funny, I bought a Lotto Max ticket because the jackpot is $50 million, and here I am dreaming about all the things I will do when I win, even though the odds are infintisimal. On the other hand, I still want my BB69 because the odds of catching something are pretty low. Human nature!
 

newatit

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You know, asking to see paperwork or test results, is not that easy. One thing, getting a paper copy is a bit of extra work, and not always done. And second, the results of any testing are void as soon as the SP or you for that mattter have another session with someone. So if you are going to ask for written results, ask to see the appointment book too. Makes about as much sense.

Yea, wrap it up and carry on. and pray.
 

lenny

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If you express this fear to the SP and request that she provide you with her recent test results then it shouldn`t bother you. Now when you speak to the SP make sure to explain yourself fully as to avoid offending her and if she is any kind of provider I doubt she will have a problem given adequate time to get tested or request her recent test results from her GP.

anyone can purchase false test results etc etc I guess he may just have find another way to get over his fears. peace
There have been SP`s advertisers here who publicly offered to show their test results, so no concerns about offence there.

As to reliability, online official STI results from BC labs can be seen, according to:

There is no need to wait for a phone call for the test results. You can look them up online now:

http://www.myehealth.ca/
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-sp-s-get-full-STD-tests&highlight=sps+tested

From TERB:

I never bothered getting a blood test while I was a working SP. Mainly because once I was infected I would have had no other option but to continue working, so why bother?
From another thread:

I am sure you probably already suspect.... but I am going to say it anyway .... SP`s are going to tell you what they think you want to hear.... Asking this question albeit well intended and certainly a curiosity will not glean accurate information.... the only sure way SP`s will have frequent testing,,, is if the government yards their collective heads from their asses and legalizes these services and regulates them like they do in Europe. Mandating medical and STD testing to maintain a "license" is the only sure way to know what you are playing with...
If a client is so concerned about a SP being recently HIV tested, then perhaps one should go beyond just taking a person`s word for it. After all, if she knows she`s HIV positive while still working, do you think she`s going to admit to it? Not likely. Even if she`s been tested negative within the last month or three, this is no guarantee of being clean.

So how can a hobbyist protect himself during FS? Condoms, of course, are the usual way, and reduce risk of infection relative to BBFS by about 85%. We all know condoms can fail, so if one desires additional protection they can take other measures to increase their safety level further beyond what condoms afford.

For example, as per the above quote by poster milfhunter, you could go to a country where SP`s are tested and licensed. In Thailand there are some venues where the sex workers are regularly tested and they`ll let you see the written STI results. I don`t know about the legal brothels in Nevada.

I`ve gone with SP`s in Bangkok to the hospital, paid for their testing, seen the paper stating the result of HIV negative, and been there with the SP`s when the doctor pronounced that result. Something similar is a possibility in Canada too. I`ve also seen the doctor send the test result to the SP`s phone.

Other options are in home do-it-your-self rapid HIV tests and being able to see STI results online. These two options could be more convenient than going to a hospital or clinic with an SP.

"According to OraSure, the test will be available for purchase this October at more than 30,000 retail outlets throughout the country and online."

http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/hiv_otc_test_1667_22643.shtml

"We are enabling doctors and clinicians to talk to one another and share patient information electronically."

"Paper records are a thing of the past. Today, doctors are creating electronic health records (EHRs) for their patients that contain all their medical information, including X-rays, test results, ultrasounds and other important data. It’s really no different than the way we use our mobile phones or our home computers to save and store information, send emails and share pictures and videos."

http://www.ehealthontario.on.ca/en/about

Additional ways to protect oneself from STIs include being circumcised, seeing low mileage SP`s, or those who advertize safer services like CBJ rather than BBBJ, or SP`s who don`t offer covered Greek (which is as risky re HIV as BBFS), etc

As regards STI prevalence among sex workers, it seems that genital herpes is much worse than in the general population. This is an STI that is seldom included in regular STI checkups, although the CDC recommends that those with multiple partners consult a physician about being tested for it:

"... individual persons who are at risk for HSV-2 infection, such as...those with multiple partners, should consult their healthcare providers to discuss type 2 HSV serologic testing."

"...Herpes type 2 blood testing may or may not be included in a full STD evaluation, as STD testing depends on a number of factors, such as behavioral risk factors (e.g. number of partners, consistent condom use, etc.) and how common the infection is in the community."

http://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/screening.htm

"Female sex workers in Europe have low levels of sexually transmitted infections, attributable to condom use. The aim of this paper is to describe the seroepidemiology of HSV-1 and HSV-2 in female sex workers in London by using a 15-year prospective study of 453 sex workers. The seroprevalence of HSV-1 was 74·4% and independently associated with birth in a ‘transitional country’ (OR 5·4, 95% CI 1·61–18·20). The seroprevalence of HSV-2 was 60% and declined over time; it was also independently associated with time in sex work (OR 2·12, 95% CI 1·23–3·65) and birth in a ‘developing country’ (OR 2·95, 95% CI 1·34–6·48). We show that a cohort of sex workers with extensive condom use and little known sexually transmitted infection have high levels of HSV-1 and HSV-2 infection, suggesting that condoms may not be universally protective. Sex workers are candidates for HSV vaccine efficacy or intervention studies."

"...In the United Kingdom, for example, the seroprevalence of HSV-2 in the general population is 8% [4] and in genitourinary clinic attendees it is 23% [4]. Seroprevalence rates in sex workers in non-European countries range from 61% [5] to 90% in Zaire [6]. Historically sex workers are a highly mobile and distinct group in terms of sexual behaviour compared to the general population."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870498/
 
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