fucking ridiculous!!!!!!!!

[smackyo]

so when the fuck are north americans going to stand up for their religion and customs. this story is ridiculous. sorry buddy but if you don't like people bringing booze into your company's cab then you can go back to samolia you know? you don't have to stay here and put up with our oppressive laws and freedoms.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/25/oppenheim.cabbies/index.html

just getting so bitter about this shit. just like the christmas trees at seatac. i'm all for respect of culture and being accomodating but the same has to be given back to your host country.

 

[athaire]

I fully agree with you.

 

[Jodie]

It would seem to me that if transporting people who are carrying alcohol is against one's religion, and that if one is so strongly observant of said religion that this act presents an insoluble idealogical dilemma, perhaps taxi driving would not be the most appropriate career choice for such a person.





Maybe take up knitting or crocheting instead...

 

[neverwas]

Oceanic makes a ggod point
The cab problem does have a much easier solution than the fines or suspensions suggested. Set up two lines of cabs, one for those who will transport alcohol and one for those who will not. Lets see how long cabbies will stay in the "will not" line. Right now it works for them because the customer carrying alcohol gets punished by having to go to the back of the line.

 

[anonanon]

That is absolutely ridiculous! In the USA, you are allowed to carry and transport alcohol, among many things "illegal" or not found "in belief". Does this mean that if a man had porno on his laptop, some cabbies would not let him in either?

Religion is a sensitive topic, but it's too much. I was not aware of the Seattle swimming pool, which one is it? I go to Seattle 1-2 times a month for business. When is my religions freedoms more overpowering than your religious beliefs? Certain religions condone elderly men to walk around with a knife(Please don't chop me down if I get some fact wrong, I'm not an expert). Should these men be allowed their knifes on airplanes? It's their religions right to do so.

East Indian people in BC do not have to wear helmets while on a bike, but everyone else does. Why cannot the Jewish be excluded too? They wear those little black hats (no idea as to what they are called). Same argument, different people.

If I was to start a religion that made pooning not only OK, but a requirement of my religion, would the government accept it? If it was just me, then probably no. But if 2.5 million Canadians were following this new religion, then they would have to approve it, and that would infuriate the conservatives in this country.

Politics, Religion, Sex......The 3 most talked about topics in the world. We will never get the "correct" balance. Some will be happy, some will be mortified.

 

[LonelyGhost]

imagine there's no religion,
its easy if you try,
no hell below us,
above us only sky.

I wish.

anyone who 'believes' in anything should not be able to hold
public office ... they are delusional.

Thing that is so stupid is that most jobs have a description,
that includes what duties you perform, including some
just-in-case stuff, so when you apply for that job and
read the job description you should decide what your
religion allows and doesn't allow then, not after the fact.

what's next? muslim cabbies who won't carry jews? or athiests?

 

[littlejimbigher]

Whats next.
Lawyers that won't do divorces because its untill death do you part.
Vegans that won't sell you meat in a grocery store.
Anti smokers who won't do anything for you because they smell smoke on you breath.

 

[sirlickheralot]

Oceanic makes a ggod point
The cab problem does have a much easier solution than the fines or suspensions suggested. Set up two lines of cabs, one for those who will transport alcohol and one for those who will not. Lets see how long cabbies will stay in the "will not" line. Right now it works for them because the customer carrying alcohol gets punished by having to go to the back of the line.

Actually it is the taxi driver that is sent to the back of the line, however the customer is inconvienenced by having to wait while another taxi is called. It isn't just alcohol these fuckers are refusing to carry some of them have also been refusing to transport blind people who have seeing eye dogs.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if they differentiated the discriminatory cabs from the non discriminatory ones and put them into two seperate queues. Since some of these drivers want to be discriminatory the passangers should be given the option of being discriminatory. The taxi starters at the airport should ask the passanger if the want one of the discriminatory cabs or non-discriminatory cabs before they call the cab. I for one would choose one of the non-discriminatory cabs whether I was transporting alcohol or not. I'm guessing the non-discriminatory cabs would get a hell of a lot more business and the discriminatory ones would be forced to change their attitudes or go broke.

As Josh L. Dickey of the Associated Press put it, when drivers at Minneapolis-St. Paul refuse a fare for any reason, "they go to the back of the line. Waaaay back. Past the terminal, down a long service road, and into a sprawling parking lot jammed with cabs in Bloomington, where drivers sit idle for hours, waiting to be called again."

 

[anonanon]

It's Meadowbrook Pool in NE Seattle. It is owned and operated by the City of Seattle as a public facility. The Seattle Times had an article on it a few months back.

Meadowbrook? I'm sure one of my traveling friends knows where that is.

You know, it's funny. If a (Please do not call me racist for what I am about to say) "Negro" comedian goes on stage, he can insult any race, including himself, and not get in trouble. A "white" guy goes up there, he can only comment on other "white" people because if he doesn't, people will call him a bigot or a racist. When is standing up for your race a bad thing?

I am white. I am proud to be white. I'm not hating on everyone who isn't, I'm just saying that I'm glad that I am white. Does that statement make me racist, or a bigot? I hope not.

I find it is soo annoying that we can't say what we feel because someone else might get offended, but they can say whatever they want to our faces, and claim the "right to free speech"..

Look at Surrey. Its little India. Richmond? More like Chinatown. North Vancouver is mostly native owned, believe it or not. Where the white people at?

The whole issue is a load of crap and I for one give up.

//rant

(again, please do not label me as racist, or a bigot. On here, I feel that I can express my feelings and ideas and get honest, truthful replies without having to follow the "social ethics" codes...)

 

[Ilovethemall]

not a bigot

Nothing bigotted about it - look at the actor, Isiah Washington from Grey's anatomy, he calls a fellow actor a faggot and now he is in therapy for his issues?? JESSSSSSSUS I'm not saying he was right...but therapy????

The whole planet....actually, I take that back, North America needs a quick shot of a quit your ,fucking whining vaccine.

 

[anonanon]

Nothing bigotted about it - look at the actor, Isiah Washington from Grey's anatomy, he calls a fellow actor a faggot and now he is in therapy for his issues?? JESSSSSSSUS I'm not saying he was right...but therapy????

The whole planet....actually, I take that back, North America needs a quick shot of a quit your ,fucking whining vaccine.

AMEN!!!!

 

[luckydog71]

It is their cab; they should be allowed to decide which people they want for customers and which ones they do not.

It would be to confusing to have multiple lines - cabbies that will only transport whites; cabbies that will not transport dogs and booze; cabbies that will only transport naked women.

However it is also the customer's right to refuse to do business with who ever they want as well. No "rag heads"; no drivers who smoke; no drivers who have not bathed.

Let the free market work itself out we do not need gov't intervention.

The resolution is very simple:
There is a line of customers; there is a line of taxis;

A customer gets to the front of the line and refuses to take the cab because the driver has blue eyes. No problem, customer goes to the back of the line. Next customer.

A taxi gets to the front of the line and refuses to take the customer because he has a checkered shirt. No problem, taxi goes to the back of the line. Next taxi.

How tough is that.

 

[facialsquirter]

when i read this stuff it gets me boiling...the next time im down in the states im going to request a white cabbie... i wouldn't want to give my money to a bigot or a racist... if they wanna be like that, screw them, i will never support them again... if i can help it i will give my money to someone who doesnt discriminate against people who have made this country the way it is... if you don't like our rules FUCK OFF (we don't want you here anyway) go back to sandals and rags and live in cardboard houses that get bombed everyday. No one gives a shit about cabbies rights! i pay you to drive, if you can't do that, what use are you to this country, FUCK OFF

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

The thing that frustrates me most is when people come to liberal countries and assert their "rights" to deny other people their "rights" e.i Sharia Law.

I'm a very inclusive open minded person but I am frightened by the idea that our governments are caving to pressure from people who would limit the rights of women, children and people of other cultures, religions and ethnicities. People come here and assert their right to freedom of religion, and then impose it upon others. Same goes for freedom of speech.

What about freedom FROM religion. I think public institutions should be 100% secular, then no one can bitch about it.

 

[PeterLongwood]

It is their cab; they should be allowed to decide which people they want for customers and which ones they do not.

This is problematic. Next thing you know it's: this is my hotel/restaurant/shop so I'll decide who I want for a customer and who I don't. Where does it stop?

I agree with the post that said if you don't want to transport people carrying a legal substance then DON'T BE A CABBIE.

 

[sirlickheralot]

A taxi gets to the front of the line and refuses to take the customer because he has a checkered shirt. No problem, taxi goes to the back of the line. Next taxi.

How tough is that.

In this instance it isn't like there is a line of taxi's and customers can walk down the line till they find a cab that will take them. If that were the case getting refused would only take a few seconds of the passangers time going from cab to cab. Here the taxi starter (an airport employee) calls for a cab from the depot, the cab shows up then the driver decides if they will take the passenger. Each time a new cab has to be called it takes several minutes. That's why it took the people in the article 20 minutes to get turned down by 5 taxis. You'd probably get pretty choked too if you were standing there for 20 minutes or more waiting as cab after cab showed up only to refuse you service.

You only need 2 queues one for taxis that don't have restrictions and one for those that do.

 

[Avery]

The acid test of people's religious beliefs is how strictly they adhere to them when doing so causes them inconvenience or hardship.

The cabbies should be told that they have to take the next passenger(s) in line, the only exception being people who are behaving in an unruly or threatening manner. Repeated refusal to do so should result in escalating penalties ranging from short suspensions to licence cancellations.

 

[PeterLongwood]

The cabbies should be told that they have to take the next passenger(s) in line, the only exception being people who are behaving in an unruly or threatening manner. Repeated refusal to do so should result in escalating penalties ranging from short suspensions to licence cancellations.

Agreed.

BTW, I finally noticed the wings. It's Tinkerbell! How cute.

 

[festealth]

wow.... refusing to do something that's part of your job because it violates your beliefs.... talk about being in the wrong profession. imagine a overly zealous religious cashier refuse to checkout condoms because it goes against his/her views, or a maybe it's a vegan cashier not willing to let you buy meat, lol

 

[PeterLongwood]

maybe it's a vegan cashier not willing to let you buy meat, lol

I was once innocently chatting with a cashier who told me that just because she's vegetarian it didn't mean meat never passed her lips. Now what could she have been going on about?