Five Timers Club - question for the ladies

[cautiontowind]

In a recent post an SP said “the number of text messages on my work phone number in the thousands each month”. With so many people messaging with little intention of booking, I wonder why more SPs don’t offer repeat client discounts. I think an SNL inspired five timers club, where membership is conditional on good gentlemanly behaviour and mutual agreement, would encourage repeat visits, help SPs advertise less, reduce the avalanche of texts, and potentially improve SP safety.

Why do so few offer this?

 

[Robert Upndown]

I know this was a question for the ladies, but it is a sad state of affairs that they should have to offer incentives to so called gentlemen, so they will act accordingly. You should simply treat the ladies with the respect they deserve.

 

[westwoody]

membership is conditional on good gentlemanly behaviour

Good gentlemanly behaviour does not include nickel and diming the ladies.

What I do not understand is why guys who are not SP’s think they are qualified to tell ladies how to run their business.

 

[johnnydepth]

Not sure how this would reduce the number of messages they receive? The ladies that are good at what they do have all the bookings they want, and the ones that are great have a strong group of regulars and seldom if ever even need to advertise.

 

[badbadboy]

In a recent post an SP said “the number of text messages on my work phone number in the thousands each month”. With so many people messaging with little intention of booking, I wonder why more SPs don’t offer repeat client discounts. I think an SNL inspired five timers club, where membership is conditional on good gentlemanly behaviour and mutual agreement, would encourage repeat visits, help SPs advertise less, reduce the avalanche of texts, and potentially improve SP safety.

Why do so few offer this?

Some do offer incentives to see them more often and for longer durations.


It's not something that's openly discussed or advertised and is between client and SP.

 

[sybian]

oh we do Mr. Sir it's called grandfathering, every time we increase our rates. Generally there's a warning, before it happens.

So Grandfathering has nothing to do with gray hair, pension cheques, or having most of your teeth missing?
Damn....I've been hating on those old guys all this time, because I thought they got the hot chicks for a better price.
Although they do get the better disabled parking spaces, and that cheaper seniors menu to choose from....so I still have that.

 

[lukom]

If I see an SP once a year for 5 years, do I qualify for the discount, what about 5 times in a year, or does it have to be 5 times in a month? The thing is with all matters of business/sales/retailer 9/10 people inquiring on your product are window shopping. When I worked in sales I remember people wouldn't make a decision right then and there, they'd take months. I even remember exchanging a series of emails with a client, and then after nearly 2 years of not hearing back from him I got an email from him out of the blue asking to finally book a meeting to finalize what we had discussed two years prior.

 

[jgg]

The ladies will do what they want to do and works for them. I'm willing to guess, from time to time, some of them will tell us to F off (maybe in a nicer way), it isn't worth the effort. It's their business, why bother trying to figure it out?

 

[blakealridge]

 

[lukom]

Yup. I remember one SP was venting to me (after our session) how she kicked out a client who decided to ask her for a discount right when he showed up to her door. He basically showed up, and goes to her "Can we do it for less?" She was like, "Nope!" and then goes, "No harm in asking, thought I'd try..." and she was like, "The harm is I no longer want to do this session and you better walk away right now." He swore at her and left. He had seen her 2-3 time prior to that, and in my case my session with her was maybe my 2nd as well, and she thanked for not trying to be that way. I've worked all sorts of jobs where I'd be asked to reduce a price and while at times we were able to, the companies that I worked for would take it out of our work quality by imposing cutbacks...etc So unless I'm at a gypsy market in Europe, dealing with a street vendor in Mexico, or buying a house I shouldn't be requesting discounts. If I don't like a price I move on elsewhere to where I can get the price I'm looking for.

 

[blakealridge]

As soon as a "gentleman" asks for a discount, I feel undervalued and I'm not able to hold myself to the high standard of service that I pride myself in providing.

In all my years in the restaurant business, I never had a single person ask if they could have a dish cheaper. But, if they went above and beyond in how they treated me, I'd sometimes offer them a discount--especially if they always tipped really well, I'd be more likely to throw in a free drink or a half priced app next time they came in (which sounds weirdly familiar to me now...hmmmm.....).

Also...do you really want to haggle with someone who's going to have your dick in their mouth????

Yup. I remember one SP was venting to me (after our session) how she kicked out a client who decided to ask her for a discount right when he showed up to her door. He basically showed up, and goes to her "Can we do it for less?" She was like, "Nope!" and then goes, "No harm in asking, thought I'd try..." and she was like, "The harm is I no longer want to do this session and you better walk away right now." He swore at her and left. He had seen her 2-3 time prior to that, and in my case my session with her was maybe my 2nd as well, and she thanked for not trying to be that way. I've worked all sorts of jobs where I'd be asked to reduce a price and while at times we were able to, the companies that I worked for would take it out of our work quality by imposing cutbacks...etc So unless I'm at a gypsy market in Europe, dealing with a street vendor in Mexico, or buying a house I shouldn't be requesting discounts. If I don't like a price I move on elsewhere to where I can get the price I'm looking for.

 

[lukom]

As soon as a "gentleman" asks for a discount, I feel undervalued and I'm not able to hold myself to the high standard of service that I pride myself in providing.

In all my years in the restaurant business, I never had a single person ask if they could have a dish cheaper. But, if they went above and beyond in how they treated me, I'd sometimes offer them a discount--especially if they always tipped really well, I'd be more likely to throw in a free drink or a half priced app next time they came in (which sounds weirdly familiar to me now...hmmmm.....).

Also...do you really want to haggle with someone who's going to have your dick in their mouth????

I agree on all those mentioned, and honestly it gets stupid. I understand how this hobby has gone in price since I was first introduced to it over a decade ago, but so has everything else. I just don't partake as much as I used to, and that's that.

 

[techno1]

prices are rising for everything. if u can not afford a provider find another in ur price range. lads should look at what they are paying for. being a punter long term really adds up. if it is good in the moment and brings u great memories when turning old like me then $ spent wisely.

providers will offer specials to try them out or grandfather rates to keep regulars. even lower rates at less peak periods. for me u get what u pay for. this is not really a buy 5 get 1 free or get coupon for half off industry. each indy provider is so different that some can offer a special that another cannot.

if i pay $200 or 1k i am aware that i cant generally expect the same from both rates. sometimes u pay less and get more sometimes u pay more but feel like u got less. i have had wonderful times and regrets with providers at varying costs. if u feel a provider is worth it at $450 but the next bloke dont thats personal preference.

 

[techno1]

As soon as a "gentleman" asks for a discount, I feel undervalued and I'm not able to hold myself to the high standard of service that I pride myself in providing.

good point

Also...do you really want to haggle with someone who's going to have your dick in their mouth????

even better point, ha!

 

[cautiontowind]

I asked a legitimate question. Although some consider it a taboo topic i think there’s value in discussing it here. Hopefully it makes some consider using price as a way to encourage more repeat visits. If someone wants to make $300/hr and is getting too many waste-of-time inquiries, why not charge $350/hr and then cut a break for regulars. There’s many different ways to do this, but I haven’t encountered many creative examples.

It’s interesting that 90% of the replies to my post were from guys with some rushing to judgement about my motives and writing disrespectful replies. In eight years on this site I hardly ever post in the “Lounge”. Now I know why.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

I asked a legitimate question. Although some consider it a taboo topic i think there’s value in discussing it here. Hopefully it makes some consider using price as a way to encourage more repeat visits. If someone wants to make $300/hr and is getting too many waste-of-time inquiries, why not charge $350/hr and then cut a break for regulars. There’s many different ways to do this, but I haven’t encountered many creative examples.

It’s interesting that 90% of the replies to my post were from guys with some rushing to judgement about my motives and writing disrespectful replies. In eight years on this site I hardly ever post in the “Lounge”. Now I know why.

I'm kind of on the fence here. On the one hand, I really don't want to feel like I'm offering a buy 4, and the 5th one is free, but I also know there are providers who do work similar to this. Punch cards? Well, you better not leave it in your wallet if you have a snoopy spouse. I think if I had a guest willing to pay for 4 visits in advance, I'd give the 5th visit free, but that would likely be the only circumstance in which I would consider it, personally.

 

[johnnydepth]

I asked a legitimate question. Although some consider it a taboo topic i think there’s value in discussing it here. Hopefully it makes some consider using price as a way to encourage more repeat visits. If someone wants to make $300/hr and is getting too many waste-of-time inquiries, why not charge $350/hr and then cut a break for regulars. There’s many different ways to do this, but I haven’t encountered many creative examples.

It’s interesting that 90% of the replies to my post were from guys with some rushing to judgement about my motives and writing disrespectful replies. In eight years on this site I hardly ever post in the “Lounge”. Now I know why.

And the other side of the coin are the people that get upset when others don't agree with them. Sure you have a legitimate question and you received legitimate answers. Nobody's fault but your own if you don't like them. If the comments cross a line the Mods will take care of it.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

Yup. I remember one SP was venting to me (after our session) how she kicked out a client who decided to ask her for a discount right when he showed up to her door. He basically showed up, and goes to her "Can we do it for less?" She was like, "Nope!" and then goes, "No harm in asking, thought I'd try..." and she was like, "The harm is I no longer want to do this session and you better walk away right now." He swore at her and left. He had seen her 2-3 time prior to that, and in my case my session with her was maybe my 2nd as well, and she thanked for not trying to be that way. I've worked all sorts of jobs where I'd be asked to reduce a price and while at times we were able to, the companies that I worked for would take it out of our work quality by imposing cutbacks...etc So unless I'm at a gypsy market in Europe, dealing with a street vendor in Mexico, or buying a house I shouldn't be requesting discounts. If I don't like a price I move on elsewhere to where I can get the price I'm looking for.

Yes. I have had a potential client pull this one too. Initially it was booked as an hour. As I was waiting for him to confirm he was at the intersection, 5 minutes beforehand, he phones to say he only has $100 & will I do a half hour full service for that? As I was using a shared in call & paying a user fee for it, I declined. Total waste of my time.

 

[ddcanz]

It’s interesting that 90% of the replies to my post were from guys with some rushing to judgement about my motives and writing disrespectful replies. In eight years on this site I hardly ever post in the “Lounge”. Now I know why.

Then after 8 years you should be plugged in to how most on this site feel about your topic.
And posting in the Lounge opens you up to fair criticism- although I don't see much 'disrespect' being cast your way, more like honest and maybe somewhat sarcastic rebuttal. You asked and we answered. Like it or lump it my thin-skinned friend.
What you are asking isn't unheard of- but probably only after establishing a consistent ongoing relationship with an SP that you might really click with. And it would only then be- for lack of a better term- a YMMV type thing that would not be anywhere close to the norm for all pooners. But realistically, why, after numerous visits at a set rate should an SP suddenly start discounting because you've proven yourself to be a 'good guy'? Your solid behaviour and good manners should be expected and a given.
Each SP has her business and pricing model that works for them. We are the clients- we are free to shop around to find someone who suits our criteria and budget. We dictate the frequency of our visits as to when it suits us, and even if we want to return for another hook up. The SP pretty much takes whoever comes along- within reason and her own personal restrictions.
I'd be embarrassed to ask for a cut-rate.
If you want a stamp card then try Subway or Jiffy Lube.

 

[blakealridge]

I asked a legitimate question. Although some consider it a taboo topic i think there’s value in discussing it here.

we are discussing it, you just don't like the things we're saying.

Hopefully it makes some consider using price as a way to encourage more repeat visits. If someone wants to make $300/hr and is getting too many waste-of-time inquiries, why not charge $350/hr and then cut a break for regulars. There’s many different ways to do this, but I haven’t encountered many creative examples.

I don't do this because I don't need to. No matter what I charge, how I run my payment structure, whether I offer deals or specials...I WILL get waste of time inquiries. Idiot men will always message me just to waste my time or call me while jerking off even if I charge $1000/h. That's just how it is. And we're allowed to complain about it if we want to, because it's gross and frustrating. And ALSO...I get PLENTY of repeat visits. I have a wonderful collection of regulars. I charge what I want to charge, and it works for me. I still get harassed by idiots.

It’s interesting that 90% of the replies to my post were from guys with some rushing to judgement about my motives and writing disrespectful replies. In eight years on this site I hardly ever post in the “Lounge”. Now I know why.

Are you complaining because you asked a question and it wasn't answered in the way you wanted it to be? Aw, muffin, do you need a juice box and a nap?