First time I've seen this type of ad on Leolist.

[Quarter Mile'r]

Okay we've all seen the ads on Leolist but this one doesn't surprise me in the least.
Especially from the reviews I've read about Korean girls here.

It Looks like the caveat of the day is Korean.......In it's truest sense.
The ad actually states AND I QUOTE.............."All sessions are YMMV"

WTF?!

https://www.leolist.cc/personals/fe...ouver_hot_new_korean_crystal_downtown-2057124

Now Is that a nice way to threaten a prospective customer? Good GOD!!
Like NO shit Sherlock. We know that all sessions are ymmv cuz after all not all customers present themselves as gentlemen we know. But to openly advertise this (to me), is just plain offensive.

Now if the reason for the stating that YMMV is due to the fact the gal might have
bitch disease or uses ninja moves. Then I can understand totally. Or if she uses the standard
K-gal routine and time wasting over extended catbath's and such.
So to make the ad a little more realistic she should ad that to her ad. Along side the YMMV.
:thumb: ound:

Actually moreso in a truer sense yet, It's a HUGE RED flag to stay the fuck away from this one.
Unless you like throwing your money away.





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[Caramel]

are you high? No seriously, I don't see anything wrong with that ad at all, I have no clue why you would be offended by it...

 

[VanessainVictoria]

are you high? No seriously, I don't see anything wrong with that ad at all, I have no clue why you would be offended by it...

I agree. Honestly, the average guy doesn't even know what YMMV means. Even if it was spelt out guys still wouldn't know what it means!!

 

[MissingOne]

I agree. Honestly, the average guy doesn't even know what YMMV means. Even if it was spelt out guys still wouldn't know what it means!!

I also wonder if the writer of the ad knows what it means.

Personally, if I were interested in the type of service on offer, the ymmv wouldn't change my thinking in any way.

 

[jamasianman]

I think what the ad is trying to say is that if someone sees her, reviews her, gets rimming or or extreme dfk, that might just be due to chemistry or being in the moment and you can't expect it for every encounter. It all depends on level of attraction, chemistry, hygiene, her mood, so I don't think its a big deal.

 

[Billiam]

I think what the ad is trying to say is that if someone sees her, reviews her, gets rimming or or extreme dfk, that might just be due to chemistry or being in the moment and you can't expect it for every encounter. It all depends on level of attraction, chemistry, hygiene, her mood, so I don't think its a big deal.

Agree 100% - I'd treat it as a positive thing until shown otherwise. Certainly don't see any basis for recommending people avoid without having any personal knowledge.

 

[VanessainVictoria]

I also wonder if the writer of the ad knows what it means.

Personally, if I were interested in the type of service on offer, the ymmv wouldn't change my thinking in any way.

QM'r, the real question is did she even write her own ad?

 

[badbadboy]

The ad actually states AND I QUOTE.............."All sessions are YMMV"

Personally, I go into any date thinking YMMV. Somedays I am richly rewarded and others not so much.

YMMV is the phrase that indicates to me that a generous, polite, respectful and fun client "may" have a excellent time at the SP's discretion. Sometimes YMMV has no bearing and you will be treated according to how she may be with every client and not just you.

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

wow QM'r having a bad morning maybe ?

seriously you totally agreed with this service provider that ....all sessions are ymmv.. then you called it a huge red flag?, and also warned everyone to ...
"stay the fuck away from this one.Unless you like throwing your money away" ?

I just dont get it ? I coulld understand a review on a review board of a sp you visited , but this is just ridiculous.

No I wasn't having a bad morning, I was making an observation of the reviews of Korean girls in general.

It just seems from reading reviews about Korean girls that this YMMV thing
is more prevalent with them because they seem to have MORE often than not a boring Korean girl routine that most
likely involves deadfish syndrome. They just don't seem to be for the most part service oriented and it can take a
very skillful pooner or really good looking one to crack their barrier. If you want to call it that.

So many times in reviews here I've come across fellas who say they are reluctant to
see a Korean girl because of this dreaded thing they call "bitch disease" or "deadfish syndrome"
Again that seems to be far more prevalent in the reviews of Korean girls and they report that
they can't understand why this girl is doing this work if she hates it so much.

That's what I was trying to express here. Maybe I didn't explain myself properly.
And then to see an ad where they expressly say "All sessions are YMMV", just reminded me of those
facts that were stated here in reviews as a lot of pooners who have seen K-girls were sorely disappointed
in their encounter where as others gave glowing reviews. I suppose they "korean lassies" seem to
have quite a large margin between providing good service as to providing really lousy service where you
would hope they would be more consistant in this respect, But they fall way short of that and you just don't know
which end of the scale you will find yourself in with which ever Korean provider you choose to see.

I'm not trying to bash Korean girls per se but just to shed some light on what you might NOT expect when one
expressly advertises "All sessions are YMMV" When I see that it makes me think that she is going to be very
judgemental of the pooner she encounters.


Now I hope that makes more sense as to what I mean.






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[VanessainVictoria]

No I wasn't having a bad morning, I was making an observation of the reviews of Korean girls in general.

It just seems from reading reviews about Korean girls that this YMMV thing
is more prevalent with them because they seem to have MORE often than not a boring Korean girl routine that most
likely involves deadfish syndrome. They just don't seem to be for the most part service oriented and it can take a
very skillful pooner or really good looking one to crack their barrier. If you want to call it that.

So many times in reviews here I've come across fellas who say they are reluctant to
see a Korean girl because of this dreaded thing they call "bitch disease" or "deadfish syndrome"
Again that seems to be far more prevalent in the reviews of Korean girls and they report that
they can't understand why this girl is doing this work if she hates it so much.

That's what I was trying to express here. Maybe I didn't explain myself properly.
And then to see an ad where they expressly say "All sessions are YMMV", just reminded me of those
facts that were stated here in reviews as a lot of pooners who have seen K-girls were sorely disappointed
in their encounter where as others gave glowing reviews. I suppose they "korean lassies" seem to
have quite a large margin between providing good service as to providing really lousy service where you
would hope they would be more consistant in this respect, But they fall way short of that and you just don't know
which end of the scale you will find yourself in with which ever Korean provider you choose to see.

I'm not trying to bash Korean girls per se but just to shed some light on what you might NOT expect when one
expressly advertises "All sessions are YMMV" When I see that it makes me think that she is going to be very
judgemental of the pooner she encounters.


Now I hope that makes more sense as to what I mean.






.........................QM'r

Are you saying YMMV is an excuse for bad service?

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

Agree 100% - I'd treat it as a positive thing until shown otherwise. Certainly don't see any basis for recommending people avoid without having any personal knowledge.

Believe me I was generalizing on this ymmv thing. My comment was strictly based from observations
on the reviews of pooners encounters where to often than not they were not happy with their Korean encounter. Service wise.

I did not mean to say don't go see this gal. Far from it. Just that I take an open statement on an ad saying YMMV is more of a warning that it is quite possible you will have no idea what you will experience
from one encounter to another.

That being said, you can not go to see these providers based on ANY reviews you might read about
them where they advertise YMMV. Hence the big red flag warning!
BECAUSE? You're mileage may vary.

Personally I am not willing to risk $200-$220/hr to find out if I made the right gamble or not.
If others wish to do so that is their business.





............................QM'r

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

Are you saying YMMV is an excuse for bad service?

As far as it goes with Korean providers it is a greater possibility. Not a given.






.......................QM'r

 

[UhOh]

We bash ads for fake pictures and other BS and now we're going bash them for being honest also?

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

We bash ads for fake pictures and other BS and now we're going bash them for being honest also?

Take a bow Uhoh. That was a classic statement to say the least!!

You could be right Uhoh, maybe we should praise them for being honest. :lol:








...........................QM'r

 

[rxwca]

Quarter Mile'r,

Sincerely, how many korean girls have you seen?

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

Sincerely.....about 8 or 9 from what I remember, but that has nothing to do with my comments brother.
It is not based on the gals I have seen. In effect, very little.
Why do people think I'm making these points based on Korean gals I've seen.
I've said nothing to the fact.

Regardless of how many I've seen. The point I've made all along is based on observation.
Reading other peoples posts and comments.

For example, read this one.
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?241766-Seven-revisit-at-5233&p=1814054#post1814054

Now if that doesn't help explain my position then maybe reread below.
Namely, my post #10 and #12 in this thread.






.......................QM'r

 

[JimDandy]

The way the ad reads makes me think the person that wrote the ad wrote ymmv but meant gfe or something similar in nature.

JD

 

[cowb0y]

I started writing this post with the intention of diving into statements and the attempted clarify/backtracking in subsequent posts.

You say that “I did not mean to say don’t see the gal. far from it.”
While you clearly warn “Actually moreso in a truer sense yet, It's a HUGE RED flag to stay the fuck away from this one.
Unless you like throwing your money away. ”

You brushed an entire Culture and every provider from it as having a “greater possibility” for stating YMMV as an excuse for bad service. Yes you gave yourself an out by throwing in “Not a given.” But clear intention is presented.
You base your arguments on what others post as reviews on their threads, well I’m basing this on what YOU wrote in your thread.

Instead of continuing to pick apart the thread, I would like to present some counter-opinions instead.

Wording of "All sessions are YMMV"
The interpretation of the statements are always based on personal bias. If you choose to view something with negative bias, any statement can be interpreted to feed and justify one’s bias.
In my point of view, "All sessions are YMMV" is an obvious redundant statement. It is right up there with “Reserve the right to refuse service”. When I see it, it makes sense; and as a statement registers similar to “This water is really wet.”

Written Words
Written words often lack the tone that a voice could give for proper interpretation.
Like if your friend gave you a bracelet that was handmade and you reply “You made this?”
This statement is written down with words but can be interpreted in multiple ways. In your mind if it is said with a positive upbeat tone, it is a joyful, thankful statement. With a sarcastic, down-trodden tone, it is can be a rebuke.
So, in this case we must go with context.
The full statement reads “all sessions are ymmv.. never rushed and a true professional..”
Does that provide a different context to an interpretation of the singled out portion of the statement? It is up to you to interpret that for yourself but for me it says that you will get a certain level of service and if she feels comfortable with you, she may go above and beyond.

Reviews Bias
It is necessary to take ALL reviews in context. Completely discounting one type of reviews and only taking the word of the opposite type of reviews only feeds into bias.
With reviews, attitude and emotions are attempted to be translated to a post. Most often Positives are magnified as well as Negatives are magnified.
But also, as we are all individuals, one person’s experience with someone may be entirely different than others. We all have our own likes and dislikes. For one the same experience may be excellent where as for others it may be awful.
Making assumptions and sweeping statements on what’s been read in lieu of what’s been personally experienced are not appropriate arguments. They are mere parroting of other’s opinions to support a possibly flawed assumption.

My Take Away
These "korean lassies", as you refer to them, are actually people. As with all people, we all can have good days or bad days. We could be comfortable with some people and not with others.

I always try to learn something every time to gain that familiarity and increase that comfort level for both of us. Things from understand and saying a few phrases, to understanding a few things about their culture and style. For them, seeing so many people a day, getting something familiar could have a great effect in breaking the ice. The very least, there could be some talking points to ease the session.

For me personally, having gotten to know a number of these Korean girls over the years and having heard a wide number of backstories, I have a deep respect for them. I view them as absolute athletic warriors.

Respect and understand will go a long way with YMMV.


I end with one last question:
“ "All sessions are YMMV" When I see that it makes me think that she is going to be very judgemental of the pooner she encounters. “
Can anyone else spot the absolute irony of this statement?

 

[yvrvisitor]

Ahhh ... QM getting into another heated and fun convo on the board :lol:

Having seen her not too long ago and actually talked to her about this ...
The ad was written by her handler who doesn't really know the full meaning of ymmv
she think it was a nice way of saying "we have right to refuse service" which some ads used to say

She wanted to be cute and added that since she is beautiful and special girl, she is ymmv. :lol:
But when questioned, she was willing to open her mouth for jizz for a few $ extra.to anyone.
So much for being special or ymmv

Think QM was just having fun with the word
As far as Tiffany goes ... 30 something Korean girl with many expensive (and well done) surgeries who''s been working for about10 years so far.

I had a ok time. She wasn't ugly nor beautiful
She is older than girls I like but she is younger than me.

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

cowb0y;1814409]

Making assumptions and sweeping statements on what’s been read in lieu of what’s been personally experienced are not appropriate arguments. They are mere parroting of other’s opinions to support a possibly flawed assumption.

Who's personal experience are you referring too? That is most important to know for me to make an appropriate
rebuttal to your statements. However I will push on.........
Please explain why these two different opposing items are not appropriate arguments?
Are you saying that other people's reviews and statements here are utter lies and are just my assumptions of what
they have experienced.

Where in all this did "I" say that these were my personal assumptions of Korean girls?
I have ran into several Korean girls even with my best come forward approach, being dressed nice, shower and primmed
to the best I can do and in more cases than not we run into dead fish syndrome or bitch disease.
A few and I mean a few have been very nice and decent in the session. Good passion and intimacy,
along with a real willingness to try their best.
You can not tell me this has not happened to you. If it has then you are one lucky dude man.

To Corroborate MY statements read this if you haven't done so already.

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?241670-Seven-5233

Somehow I just knew I opened up a can of worms to be taken out of context of what my thoughts were of the statements
and reviews here were about most Korean girls sessions.
BTW,, I'm really glad to hear that you know how to treat the girls with respect. I also have done this in my entire pooning career
as well bro.

My Take Away
For them, seeing so many people a day, getting something familiar could have a great effect in breaking the ice. The very least, there could be some talking points to ease the session. Respect and understand will go a long way with YMMV.

This in itself is mostly why Korean girls can be SO ymmv, it would seem that they see more guys than any other provider
that you could name. I'm going by just the number of views Korean girls reviews receive here on this forum.
It seems that huge LURKER population that is allowed to looky loo here and not contribute in any way is a big part
of why these gals get burned out so easy. And in that why so many guys have a lousy time with them.
They just can't put out good service guy after guy for say 10 or more guys a day and god knows how many days
in a row. Wouldn't you agree??
(Another observation) So in saying so I believe they are busier than any other SP in Vancouver.

Now to me that makes the YMMV thing a huge gamble. You can't really expect a girl to be over the top in her session
when she's been poked by 10 or more guys that day before you arrive and has that happen to her all week.
She must be dog tired and then some. Here in lies the "BIG RED FLAG" OKAY?!

Definitely brings in the buyer beware statement. Flavour of the day is usually vanilla in that case.

Ahhh ... QM getting into another heated and fun convo on the board :lol:

Having seen her not too long ago and actually talked to her about this ...
The ad was written by her handler who doesn't really know the full meaning of ymmv
she think it was a nice way of saying "we have right to refuse service" which some ads used to say

She wanted to be cute and added that since she is beautiful and special girl, she is ymmv. :lol:
But when questioned, she was willing to open her mouth for jizz for a few $ extra.to anyone.
So much for being special or ymmv

Think QM was just having fun with the word
As far as Tiffany goes ... 30 something Korean girl with many expensive (and well done) surgeries who''s been working for about10 years so far.

I had a ok time. She wasn't ugly nor beautiful
She is older than girls I like but she is younger than me.

:lol: I think I could have possibly stepped on my dick opening this little gem of a post.
You know it's like I gotta explain my life away to get my point across with out being ripped a new asshole! :tsk:
LOL!! That's kind of Ironic when you think about it Yvr. "The right to refuse service". The new "YMMV" meaning. LOL!!

I love that one.





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