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FIFA World Cup No Bid 2026 by Province of BC

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I was hoping we could host a few games as part of the North American Bid to host the FIFA World Cup in 2026. Who wouldn't want a series of World Cup games played in this city?

When I heard the Gov't had withdrawn Vancouver as part of the North American bid, I thought, hmm typical making Vancouver the epitome of a "No Fun Zone" in North America.

Then I started to look at possible reasons why BC would not want to support a bid including BC Place for 2 or 3 games. Mexico would host a few games and the majority would be played in the USA. Pretty expensive when you break it down for three games. Most likely they would not include any premium top 8 teams either.

FIFA has been the subject of corruption over the past decade and they still are able to bully their way into a deal with countries that want to host the World Cup. This time BC has said, "thanks but no thanks" to FIFA.

In the end, this all may be a moot point as the Islamic countries are supposedly going to vote as a block against any games being played in the USA in retaliation to the #45's xenophobic stance towards Islam.

Mike Smyth from the Province details how the bid was sidetracked by FIFA because of all their conditions.

  • Two Grass Fields at BC Place. One to be installed ASAP as required
  • BC Place is not to be used by any other event for two months while the World Cup is played.
  • No promotional material "around BC Place" TBD
  • Two Sources of power at BC Place. Cost of second source paid for by BC.
  • The gate goes to FIFA. Not Negotiable.
  • All costs for security are the responsibility of the host not FIFA
  • Special Tax Free Status for FIFA. No taxes for Vancouver, BC or Canada.

http://theprovince.com/opinion/columnists/mike-smyth-no-soccer-for-you-inside-the-governments-fight-with-fifa


Here is the complete article from the Province.

Columnist Mike Smyth writes about the B.C. government's challenge to FIFA that caused Vancouver to be dropped as a potential World Cup host city.

The opportunity to host World Cup soccer games was a dream scenario for Vancouver fans who hoped “the beautiful game” would visit our beautiful city in 2026.

But when B.C. Place officials sat down to analyze the contract terms demanded by FIFA — the corruption-plagued world governing body for soccer — the dream turned into a financial nightmare.

Now I can tell you some inside details of the proposed deal, which unravelled last week after the B.C. government demanded clarity on costs and renegotiation of key points.

B.C. Place is owned by the provincial government and managed by the B.C. Pavilion Corp., a Crown agency known as Pavco.

A “risk analysis” document prepared by Pavco officials outlined an astonishing series of non-negotiable contract terms from FIFA that would have burned taxpayers to a crisp.


They included a requirement that B.C. Place install not just one temporary natural-grass playing surface on top of the stadium’s existing artificial turf (installed just three years ago at a cost of $1.3 million).

The contract demanded a second “contingency pitch” just in case something went wrong with the first grass field and a new one had to be installed on short notice.

FIFA not only demanded two grass fields for B.C. Place, they also demanded two electricity supplies to the stadium in case of a power failure.

A “second separate source of power supply for the stadium” would be “entirely and wholly the responsibility of the stadium and host city,” the risk assessment said.

“Pavco flagged that for us right at the beginning — they have a single power source,” Tourism Minister Lisa Beare told me.

The cost of a backup power supply — be it gas-powered generators or a separate B.C. Hydro line — was listed as “unknown” in the assessment.

Then there were the security costs, notorious for going over-budget. A prime example: Security for the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver was originally budgeted at $175 million and ended up costing over $1 billion.

“That was a huge concern for us,” Beare said. “We couldn’t get any firm requirements or cost estimates.”

Stoking the fears of the government was the 2014 World Cup experience of Brazil, which spent over $900 million on security, including a massive video-surveillance system and training on potential chemical and radiological terror attacks.

Keep in mind Vancouver was only in line to get two or three soccer games as part of a unified bid to host the World Cup by Canada, the United States and Mexico.

But, even though the number of games was small, FIFA still demanded “exclusive use” of B.C. Place for up to two months, requiring all other events to be cancelled or postponed.

During the “exclusive use period,” FIFA insisted on a “clean stadium clause” banning all non-authorized advertising and commercial activity — and not just within the confines of B.C. Place itself.

The ban included “prohibition of any promotional, public-relations, religious, political or commercial advertising of any kind in, on, above, around or about the stadium without prior written approval by FIFA,” the assessment said.

“When they were using words like ‘around’ and ‘about’ the stadium, we sought clarity on that and the bid committee could not provide it,” Beare said.

“It would have made us responsible for activities that happened outside the stadium,” she added, saying the government was concerned about policing the activities of businesses near B.C. Place.

If you’re wondering whether all these costs would have been offset by a share of World Cup ticket sales or TV rights — forget it.

“An exceptionally broad and almost universal ownership of commercial rights with respect to the competition” would remain exclusively with FIFA, the assessment said, including “media rights, marketing rights and ticketing.”

As B.C. taxpayers absorbed all the costs — and FIFA scooped all the World Cup profits — FIFA also demanded special treatment under B.C. taxation and labour laws.

“The FIFA World Cup represents an event of national importance and public interest, which justifies the granting of a tax exemption,” said a FIFA document entitled “Overview of Government Guarantees.”

The tax exemption would also apply to FIFA service providers, contractors “and certain designated individuals.” The same document also required the government to grant FIFA “exemption from labour law” and allow “unrestricted import and export of all foreign currencies.”

As if that’s not enough, FIFA also wanted the right to change the terms of the agreement after it was signed, with any cost increases borne by taxpayers.

In response to all these contract demands and uncosted liabilities, the B.C. government sent a letter to the three-country Unified Bid Committee.

The letter said B.C. would support the bid on three conditions: Production of a detailed business plan showing all projected costs, federal-government responsibility for security and an indemnity to protect B.C. taxpayers from any cost overruns.

The conditions were not met, and Vancouver was dropped as a potential host city.

“We would have loved to have hosted these World Cup games and we tried hard to make it happen,” Beare said. “But we were unable to get the security we needed for taxpayers.”

The opposition Liberals slammed the governing NDP for failing to deliver.

“The government pulled the rug out from under soccer fans and the tourism industry,” said Liberal MLA Jas Johal.

But others applauded the B.C. government — and the cities of Chicago, Phoenix and Minneapolis, which also rejected the contract demands — for standing up to FIFA.

“It’s a wise decision,” said Andrew Jennings, the British reporter credited with exposing FIFA corruption that led to U.S. charges of wire fraud, racketeering and money laundering in 2015. “More and more governments are saying ‘Thanks, but no thanks’ to FIFA. The era of the shakedown is over.”

msmyth@postmedia.com

twitter.com/MikeSmythNews
 

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I was full of rage when I heard the NDP saying No to the Biggest Sporting Event in the World... For one the cost of security, infrastructure will not be as a high compared to Brazil. Just regarding security the cost was not only with regards to anti-terrorism safety but Brazil's crime and political unrest. They built a stadium in the middle of the Amazon, we have one already built. BC place would have only most likely needed the installation of temp grass vs permanent grass. This statement "Two Grass Fields at BC Place. One to be installed ASAP as required" is incorrect. Temp grass can be installed in parts would just need extra sections. Seen this done in Toronto for a European friendly match. Each host city is required to have two training facilities. The current Whitecaps facility at UBC could easily been used as one. The 2015 Women's World Cup was one of the best ever put on, which led two Mens 2018 World Cup qualifiers after a decade absence for the mens team in Vancouver.

Vancouver unlike the other cities that dropped out could have gotten alot more than just the 3 games during the World Cup. The President of Concacaf is a Vancouverite which makes him a Vice President of FIFA. Vancouver would have most likely got international friendly matches leading up to the World Cup and other extra events. Qualified countries also setup a home base in a city, Vancouver could easily been home to a team or two. Each host city will also have one fan zone similar to the live cities we had during Olympics for the duration of tournament which would have been good atmosphere and extra revenue. I could go on and on about this. If the United Bid beats out Morocco I hope something can get done for Vancouver to join back in as the final host cities will be announced in 2021.
 
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Or...we might have only got two games. NOTHING is guaranteed with FIFA, the only group in the world more corrupt than the IOC. And the games were to be early round games - teams from countries most people couldn't find on a map.

FIFA's demands that take the stadium out of commission for so long ends up costing us lost revenue.

Also, because of field and stadium demands we would be unlikely to get any international friendlies.

No teams would set up a base in Vancouver so far from where their games would be played.

Plus, Vancouver is already full during the time of year the games would be played.

And does Vancouver need more exposure?
 

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And does Vancouver need more exposure?
All of the considered points, but especially this.
We need to stop thinking about this city like 13 year olds looking to be cool by throwing the biggest party of the year for our school. The metaphorical equivalent in cost and clean up from a binge party will be very expensive.
We need to start thinking about this city like people with mortgages. How do we make this city livable given the budget that we have, and the future that we see looming ahead of us.
 

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I like soccer, and go to Whitecaps games. I would have liked to see the World Cup come to Canada, for sure, but...

It's not really coming to Canada. It is a USA bid, with Canada and Mexico tacked on for only a few non-important games. Don't think this will be like when Japan and Korea hosted the tournament together, much more equitably. Mexico could host a World Cup by itself. The USA could go it alone (it has before). I'm sure even Canada could bid to host it alone. After all, we have a bigger economy than South Africa, and as far as ridiculous places to play a World Cup, look at Qatar 2022. (Resulting from FIFA accepting the world's biggest bribe.) So why would we want to pitch in with a bid that leaves us only some crumbs from the USA's table? FIFA is not exactly known for keeping its nose clean financially. Yet, they want us to sign an agreement where they can simply change the contract in any way they want, at whatever cost they want? Yeah, okay.

It's sad if we are out, but under these conditions, you can't blame the provincial government from backing away from it. Chicago and Minneapolis also declined it also, so BC is not alone in thinking this was a dodgy deal.
 

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Or...we might have only got two games. NOTHING is guaranteed with FIFA, the only group in the world more corrupt than the IOC. And the games were to be early round games - teams from countries most people couldn't find on a map.

FIFA's demands that take the stadium out of commission for so long ends up costing us lost revenue.

Also, because of field and stadium demands we would be unlikely to get any international friendlies.

No teams would set up a base in Vancouver so far from where their games would be played.

Plus, Vancouver is already full during the time of year the games would be played.

And does Vancouver need more exposure?
BC Place may host Lions and Whitecaps games but the stadium upper bowl is not used so we have a stadium that holds 55 thousand but only 20-27 thousand seats are being sold.
The current turf now can be used for international friendlies but yes grass is the preferred surface for the world cup. We had two Canada mens world cup qualifiers for the 2018 world cup played on the turf. As for teams setting up base it could have been an options as games will be played on the west coast.
 

italian233

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All of the considered points, but especially this.
We need to stop thinking about this city like 13 year olds looking to be cool by throwing the biggest party of the year for our school. The metaphorical equivalent in cost and clean up from a binge party will be very expensive.
We need to start thinking about this city like people with mortgages. How do we make this city livable given the budget that we have, and the future that we see looming ahead of us.
I sure hope things do change regarding mortgages, etc but governments spend money on sport, art etc all the time. Taxes will go up regardless of us hosting an event like this. Heck they just announced new transit plans which we need so fares and taxes are going up.
 
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