What is everyone's opinion on these women? I had supper at a friend's house today, and is wife is a social worker/crazy feminist. Her friend was there, who is a former crack whore turned social worker/feminist (she's completely insane). I can't believe the sexist double standards she was spouting during dinner, it made me sick. She loudly berated me over nothing in front of everyone because I disagreed with something she said. I wanted to tell her what a stupid sexist crack whore charlatan she is, but to keep the peace and salvage the evening I had to take it and then change the subject. Did I mention this bitch is going for her PhD? To me, feminism is the same as chauvinism, if not worse. Thoughts?
Feminists
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Feminism means equality and equal rights
It does NOT mean special rights.
I'm a very strong feminist, and as some of you know, used to co host a TV show on the subject. I feel very strongly about equality, but realize that it does have it's limitations.
Wanting to eliminate the glass ceiling is the main plight of feminists in Canada. I do believe that the same job, preformed at the same level should be compenated the same regardless of gender. I do NOT feel as though men on average should earn the same annually as women on average.
At this point in time, women still choose to enter professions which on average are lower paid than the carreers which men choose to enter. An office assistant (a predominatly female position) should NOT earn the same as an engineer ( a predominantly male profession).
A male and a female holding the same positiion with the same level of skill and schooling, same level of expereince and competence SHOULD earn the same.
As a feminist, I also believe that there are areas which woman have the advantage over men. Child custody, child support and alamony are the first which spring to mind.
As a true feminist, I believe the BEST parent shoud get custody of the children. I also feel that if the father is deemed to be the better parent, then the mother should be paying child support to him.
Same thing with alamony. If a husband gave up his job to be a stay at home father or husband, and then the couple seperates, the wife SHOULD be paying him alamony.
Fair is fair. You can't just want the advantages the other team has but be unwilling to give up your own.
Your 'friend' is not a feminist. She is an exrtemist.
It does NOT mean special rights.
I'm a very strong feminist, and as some of you know, used to co host a TV show on the subject. I feel very strongly about equality, but realize that it does have it's limitations.
Wanting to eliminate the glass ceiling is the main plight of feminists in Canada. I do believe that the same job, preformed at the same level should be compenated the same regardless of gender. I do NOT feel as though men on average should earn the same annually as women on average.
At this point in time, women still choose to enter professions which on average are lower paid than the carreers which men choose to enter. An office assistant (a predominatly female position) should NOT earn the same as an engineer ( a predominantly male profession).
A male and a female holding the same positiion with the same level of skill and schooling, same level of expereince and competence SHOULD earn the same.
As a feminist, I also believe that there are areas which woman have the advantage over men. Child custody, child support and alamony are the first which spring to mind.
As a true feminist, I believe the BEST parent shoud get custody of the children. I also feel that if the father is deemed to be the better parent, then the mother should be paying child support to him.
Same thing with alamony. If a husband gave up his job to be a stay at home father or husband, and then the couple seperates, the wife SHOULD be paying him alamony.
Fair is fair. You can't just want the advantages the other team has but be unwilling to give up your own.
Your 'friend' is not a feminist. She is an exrtemist.
You should've done what I do when I get stuck with "their type" for longer than 30 milliseconds. Tell them that you're also a feminist and believe that a woman's place is either in the kitchen cooking me dinner or in the brothel getting ready for the next guy to show up. I love watching them light their hair on fire as I walk away.
I went to university in the 1970s and again in the 1980s, a time when feminism was becoming more radical and very prevalent on campus and in society generally. I met feminists from a range of life settings and from varying political and social allegiances. Some were nutcases, a few were brilliant scholars and activists, most were regular women looking seriously at a host of ideas, and, wanting to be taken seriously, could be very assertive regarding who they were as women. They certainly didn’t agree with each other on all points. I found myself impressed by the best of them and friends with many of them. I feel strongly that their work has played a vital role in changing sexist aspects of society, something we all benefit from. I changed my mind on some issues after being exposed to some excellent feminist critiques of society and history. Although I was a conservative, rightwing christian at the time (yikes, is that embarrassing!), I raised my daughters to be strong independent woman who are today two of the most developed and impressive human beings on this planet (though I admit I’m a little biased here). I must give credit where credit is due though. I am a better man today at least in part because I was challenged by feminists and their ideas. I would hate to see feminism disappear.
Militants in any movement always run the risk of becoming extremists, which some feminists did. As postmodernism took root and gained ascendancy in the university one small part of the feminist spectrum came to dominate in that setting, and its methods and approaches, coloured strongly by the postmodernist trend (and often moving beyond its its real and valuable insights IMHO), seems to have become anti-rational, anti-scientific and strongly doctrinaire. Fanatics are seldom pleasant (I’m still apologizing to people I knew in the 70s for my extremist, fundamentalist crap). Some very bright young women I know have told me they are feminists but feel the need to distance themselves from this particular feminist trend, especially if they have strong science backgrounds. Social movements change over time and every movement seems to produce a spectrum of ideas and practices. I think feminism has made the world a better place, but that, like any set of ideas and practices, it does not and cannot be the one great truth to which all others must answer. If you’ve read Naomi Wolfe and bell hooks, you’re aware that feminists do not agree on all points. That’s not unique to the feminist movement. If you read women’s writers on sex or sex work, you’ll be aware of how bitter some discussions are. I have encountered SPs who are truly among the most astonishing women and human beings I know (and I work in a profession full of bright, educated, socially engaged women). Personally I like the integral approach of thinkers like Ken Wilber, an approach where we respect the spectrum of experiences and ideas that are part of the human experience generally, accept the best of those, and recognize that consciousness grows and changes. We simply never arrive; it’s always a journey. Personally I believe that the feminine is on the rise on our planet because it’s a necessary counterbalance to millennia of male dominance. I think our peace and survival depend on it. Feminism plays a positive role in that but, please, save us from fanatics of all varieties whether they wear skirts or trousers, turbans or neck ties. As an ex-fanatic I welcome any and all sources of knowledge and healing. Both feminists and SPs (even those SPs who are feminists) have been part of my education. That some feminists and SPs despise each other makes no difference in that regard. I hope they develop a meaningful dialogue. In the meantime I’ll continue to see them separately, though I respect many women in both camps.
Militants in any movement always run the risk of becoming extremists, which some feminists did. As postmodernism took root and gained ascendancy in the university one small part of the feminist spectrum came to dominate in that setting, and its methods and approaches, coloured strongly by the postmodernist trend (and often moving beyond its its real and valuable insights IMHO), seems to have become anti-rational, anti-scientific and strongly doctrinaire. Fanatics are seldom pleasant (I’m still apologizing to people I knew in the 70s for my extremist, fundamentalist crap). Some very bright young women I know have told me they are feminists but feel the need to distance themselves from this particular feminist trend, especially if they have strong science backgrounds. Social movements change over time and every movement seems to produce a spectrum of ideas and practices. I think feminism has made the world a better place, but that, like any set of ideas and practices, it does not and cannot be the one great truth to which all others must answer. If you’ve read Naomi Wolfe and bell hooks, you’re aware that feminists do not agree on all points. That’s not unique to the feminist movement. If you read women’s writers on sex or sex work, you’ll be aware of how bitter some discussions are. I have encountered SPs who are truly among the most astonishing women and human beings I know (and I work in a profession full of bright, educated, socially engaged women). Personally I like the integral approach of thinkers like Ken Wilber, an approach where we respect the spectrum of experiences and ideas that are part of the human experience generally, accept the best of those, and recognize that consciousness grows and changes. We simply never arrive; it’s always a journey. Personally I believe that the feminine is on the rise on our planet because it’s a necessary counterbalance to millennia of male dominance. I think our peace and survival depend on it. Feminism plays a positive role in that but, please, save us from fanatics of all varieties whether they wear skirts or trousers, turbans or neck ties. As an ex-fanatic I welcome any and all sources of knowledge and healing. Both feminists and SPs (even those SPs who are feminists) have been part of my education. That some feminists and SPs despise each other makes no difference in that regard. I hope they develop a meaningful dialogue. In the meantime I’ll continue to see them separately, though I respect many women in both camps.
The only time I have a problem with feminism are the ones that want to have their cake and eat it too. Vis-a-vis the ones that want equal consideration, pay, and everything else under the umbrella, but magically when the bill arrives expect a man to pay because after all - that's what being a "man" is all about. Horseshit.
Doesn't take long to figure out why chivalry died a slow and agonizing death.
Doesn't take long to figure out why chivalry died a slow and agonizing death.
When I think of 'feminist's' my mind goes to those ugly overweight women who may have been sexually touched as a child, who hate porn, or seemingly anything involving good looking women showing off their beauty, and say it is degrading to women. I realize that is not the definition of the word, but that is the stereotype that I think a lot of society is accustomed to.
Now, having said that, here is an old joke that is inapropriate at this time....
Q - How many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb
A - 2 of them. 1 to screw in the lightbulb, and one to suck my cock!
Now, having said that, here is an old joke that is inapropriate at this time....
Q - How many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb
A - 2 of them. 1 to screw in the lightbulb, and one to suck my cock!
You can also direct them here http://youporn.com/watch/34178/cumpilation-vol2/?from=featured2 and tell them to start doing what god put em on earth for 
