http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=5c68a4b7-6334-4600-936c-520d8d07cf73&k=44404
I am still not sure if this is helping.
Federal health minister grants extension to safe injection site
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The safe injection site is to prevent the spread of HIV and Hepatitis and death by overdose. That's all !!!
It is not meant to substitute as a treatment facility.
And sadly there are not enough resources put towards prevention and treatment which are considered elements of the four pillars approach.
And we have huge budget surpluses at the Provincial and Federal levels.....
I don't get it
It is not meant to substitute as a treatment facility.
And sadly there are not enough resources put towards prevention and treatment which are considered elements of the four pillars approach.
And we have huge budget surpluses at the Provincial and Federal levels.....
I don't get it
One thing people have to understand is that officials are not condoning the practice of injecting heroin. It is harm reduction. Would you rather see needles strewn all over Hastings street? If you have a place where they can inject and dispose their needles, the cleanup job is MUCH easier and the risk to the public is virtually eliminated.
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How old are these people who do needles? Honestly speaking, we have the resources!! 
It's just that they don't know how to use it or develop on it!! Do you know the outcome of these diseases? You are either dead at a very very young age or fucking handicapped!!!! And part of your tax money goes to this. Do you really wanna waste your fucking money on these fucking lazy people? We should shut down these facilities and let these people die all they want!! Just don't be a parasite!! Find a fucking job!!!
It's just that they don't know how to use it or develop on it!! Do you know the outcome of these diseases? You are either dead at a very very young age or fucking handicapped!!!! And part of your tax money goes to this. Do you really wanna waste your fucking money on these fucking lazy people? We should shut down these facilities and let these people die all they want!! Just don't be a parasite!! Find a fucking job!!!And what happens to those that live and continue to use and spread a blood borne illness?How old are these people who do needles? Honestly speaking, we have the resources!!
A lot of those who use Insite have jobs.
As Yman said, the safe injection site is strictly a "harm reduction" strategy: It needs to be used in conjunction with other measures such as addiction counseling, social housing and help for the many street people who are suffering with mental illness and other challenges which are not readily noticeable.
It's not like these people woke up one morning and said "I think I'll become a junkie today"...most of them had issues to begin with and the drug addiction compounds them.
It seems to me that many of them would like to change their lives but don't know how to begin and don't really believe it to be possible .
At a time when police forces all over the country are struggling to recruit enough new members to replace the wave of retirees, it seems really stupid to embark on an American style "War on drugs" when it can be plainly seen that that isn't working for them and never has. As long as there are people out there wanting these substances, there will be others willing to take the risk of providing them for an obscene profit. We learned that in the prohibition era. The only way to end the problem is to convince the people to find healthier sources of recreation. Market dries up = dealers go away!
just my $.02 WS.
It's not like these people woke up one morning and said "I think I'll become a junkie today"...most of them had issues to begin with and the drug addiction compounds them.
It seems to me that many of them would like to change their lives but don't know how to begin and don't really believe it to be possible .
At a time when police forces all over the country are struggling to recruit enough new members to replace the wave of retirees, it seems really stupid to embark on an American style "War on drugs" when it can be plainly seen that that isn't working for them and never has. As long as there are people out there wanting these substances, there will be others willing to take the risk of providing them for an obscene profit. We learned that in the prohibition era. The only way to end the problem is to convince the people to find healthier sources of recreation. Market dries up = dealers go away!
just my $.02 WS.
Why go half way? The Gov'ts of the world should buy an island - name it - Oh, I dunno... Hell...? Anybody caught Using is sent there and dealt with. Courts are there, Rehab is there, supply planes freely come in from Columbia, burials take place there. Seroius addicts wouldn't even try to escape if that's where the supply was... Recreational users stupid enough to get caught and first-timers might be scared shitless and be veeeeewy careful in future.
Out of sight, out of mind. Show the kids the video in Grade 6 and it will be in the back of their mind forever...
Now - about us habitual sex-addidicts. We could be sent to a different tropical island called "paradise" ... Real-time video feeds could pay all the expenses.
Out of sight, out of mind. Show the kids the video in Grade 6 and it will be in the back of their mind forever...
Now - about us habitual sex-addidicts. We could be sent to a different tropical island called "paradise" ... Real-time video feeds could pay all the expenses.
If they would put some serious money into rehabs and mental health problems, alot of the addicts could be got off the streets. Then I wouldn't mind this injection joint as much.
I saw most of homelessness are at a very young age. Why don't they go find a job and work harder? Lazy and wanna get all the benefits from the country!!!!! Lots of loophole in the system. Very disappointed!!
If addicts want treatment for their problems they have the option of consulting one of the staff, but it is not the sole purpose nor the intended purpose of insite. It is to reduce the amount of discarded needles on the streets, in the alleys, and on school grounds. There are only so many needles the volunteers are able to pick up every morning. If the users have a safe, clean place to shoot up they have no excuse to shoot up on the street.
I don't see it as legitimizing a self destructive behaviour. I think what happened is citizens became so fed up with the amount of needles being strewn on the streets and realized that the drug problem is not going away, so it's better to regulate it with a safe injection site rather than the pre-2003 situation of not doing anything. At least you have some measure of control with Insite.
There is no word from Ottawa in decriminilizing hard drugs, not even soft ones like marijuana (the Bill died when an election was called in 2006), so how can this be legitimizing hard drug use? It's a better alternative, and that's all it is. But I've never used hard drugs so I can only sympathize, not empathize.
Panther
I have to disagree with you here. For most of them it is a case of "I think I'll become a junkie today".
No one forced them to take drugs, they did so on there own accord. If addiction is a desease (something I do not buy) then it is a self inflicted desease brought on by individual choice. Whether the person had other issues is irrellevent. They made a choice to use drugs and therefore they and not society should have to pay for the concenquences.
Dr. Troy. If you are indeed a member of the medical community, I would think ignorance is not restricted to those outside of your profession.Always love reading the comments in these threads. Ignorance is bliss, eh?
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The medical community proved that addiction was a disease a long time ago. Also society is filled with people who are addicted to different drugs, substances, and other things in life. Ergo, a community always bears the burden of the behavior of it's members. So what if someone chose to try something (be it a beer, a joint, a cigarette, narcotics, gambling, pornography, sex for money) that they get addicted to? It doesn't make it their fault that they actually became addicted to it. You could be addicted to something from the first time you try it (which many people with an addictive personality find themselves doing).
Addiction is not a disease. TB is a disease. Cancer is a disease.
The definition of an addiction: the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.
People make the choice to smoke, eat fast food, drink, have unprotected sex, etc. These can all cause self inflicted disease's brought on by individual choice. So why are we as tax payers paying for the treatment that all these addictions create?
We're talking about people whose addictions are compounded BECAUSE of disease...mostly mental diseases like schizophrenia, bi-polar, serious diseases of the mind. They are also further complicated by sexual, emotional and physical abuse issues from their childhood.
I know, some people should just say enough of me being the victim, and move on with their lives but we're talking about some SERIOUS life problems. It's just easier for them in the short term to continue with drugs. To say that they one day decided to become a junky is oversimplifying the problem...it's also not realistic.
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