I think for 2019 every SP earned an income of $12,069 :eyebrows:Would you declare 60k, get a tax bill for 12k just so you can receive 8k over 4 months??? Well, of course you would, because "civic duty"But I would imagine those looking to "game" the system will quickly realize they won't be winning that "game."
Federal Financial Aid for Sex Workers
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A tad obvious. If I were a betting man that would (in combination with no prior tax filing history) be a giant red flag! As long as everyone knows Game Theory, it's not possible to game. So, the only question is, does the CRA know Game Theory?
CRA might know game theory, but CRA is not the player here, the people working for CRA are. CRA employees are working 12 hour shifts now, and when they win the game, they don't win anything, when they loose the game, they don't loose anything...So, the only question is, does the CRA know Game Theory?
And I encourage SPs to file their tax returns honestly :angel::bounce:
Do you truly believe that all returns are reviewed by human eyes? Red flagging is automated, and human review occurs after red flagging. I don't dispute that CRA workers are over-worked generally, but capturing "certain data points" as red flags is actually rather easy for CRA to accomplish. So I would disagree, CRA is actually a player in the game. I agree, makes no difference to the CRA employee whether or not someone is under-reporting their income, yet they still have a job to do. Whether they do or don't do their job, that just means they are a playing a different game!
holy crap you guys...can we please calm down....? this is about getting some support into the hands of the women you visit and who have no income now. many are paid up and can simply apply...others face barriers...is it so difficult for you to understand that people might need some support now?
lord thunderin jezus
because now is definitely the time to re-ingnite the "do sex workers pay taxes debate".....
there are pooners here facing the same problems you know...
love susie
lord thunderin jezus
because now is definitely the time to re-ingnite the "do sex workers pay taxes debate".....
there are pooners here facing the same problems you know...
love susie
Thank you for your concern. It was actually friendly discussion, talking within economics and finance. If it were a real fight, I would bring out Greta and "How dare you" appleomac to death as soon as he mentioned CRA.
Sorry if anything I said caused fear of dealing with the CRA. I have always found them to be fair and reasonable.
I would think if you declare enough cash income to cover all your obvious expenses you will do just fine.
On the other hand what is this about? ??"It’s a civic duty and a Canadian citizen’s social responsibility to contribute fairly." ?? There is nothing fair or reasonable about any part of our tax system. Paying as little as possible and collecting as much as possible is entirely appropriate. Any talk of fairness needs to be directed at the corporations with their lawyers, accountants and lobbyists, for all the good that will do.
I would think if you declare enough cash income to cover all your obvious expenses you will do just fine.
On the other hand what is this about? ??"It’s a civic duty and a Canadian citizen’s social responsibility to contribute fairly." ?? There is nothing fair or reasonable about any part of our tax system. Paying as little as possible and collecting as much as possible is entirely appropriate. Any talk of fairness needs to be directed at the corporations with their lawyers, accountants and lobbyists, for all the good that will do.
yes and no worries treveller! this is an important conversation.
those sp's on disability or income assistance will not get any extra support and cannot declare anything as it will interrupt their regular government payments. People dealing with challenges and who access these programs are left high and dry. The government acknowledges that it costs at least $2500 a month to live in this country but expect those living on $780 a month to continue.... people use survival strategies to top up this under funded income like sex work...so if we want people to self isolate...we need to acknowledge that the money we give them is not enough...we shouldn't ask people to risk their health for food and rent.
we need a universal income benefit now. don't fund food banks, fund people....make sense?
love susie
those sp's on disability or income assistance will not get any extra support and cannot declare anything as it will interrupt their regular government payments. People dealing with challenges and who access these programs are left high and dry. The government acknowledges that it costs at least $2500 a month to live in this country but expect those living on $780 a month to continue.... people use survival strategies to top up this under funded income like sex work...so if we want people to self isolate...we need to acknowledge that the money we give them is not enough...we shouldn't ask people to risk their health for food and rent.
we need a universal income benefit now. don't fund food banks, fund people....make sense?
love susie
https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/202...HFM1yNGoKoKFfqFBNWez03G4UOOeGhwclB0c3uwjtDmi0
this just out from the province, people on assistance will get an extra $300 a month starting now
love susie
this just out from the province, people on assistance will get an extra $300 a month starting now
love susie
Is there any news about sex workers applying for the Canada Emergency Response Benefit? Seems to me it is available to anyone who is willing to declare $5000 income from last year and no income at present. Not like the US where anyone who was offering "prurient" services is excluded.
On the subject of a basic livable wage for Canadians and the concerns about how the government could afford it.
The government would find the money the same way it finds money for corporate bailouts disguised as job creation or the dozen odd emergency support packages being rolled out now. When you ask about cost you also have to consider value. The government primarily moves money from place to place and what matters is not how much they are moving but how well that money is being spent. The best way for the government to spend money is by directly supporting people. This is what the big "costs" are about, health care, education and pensions. A guaranteed livable wage would be a small "cost" compared to these other social services and would replace a patchwork of supports, the social safety net, that leave many falling through the cracks. If you don't understand this try reading Thomas Piketty's book, Capital in the Twenty-First Century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Piketty
On the subject of a basic livable wage for Canadians and the concerns about how the government could afford it.
The government would find the money the same way it finds money for corporate bailouts disguised as job creation or the dozen odd emergency support packages being rolled out now. When you ask about cost you also have to consider value. The government primarily moves money from place to place and what matters is not how much they are moving but how well that money is being spent. The best way for the government to spend money is by directly supporting people. This is what the big "costs" are about, health care, education and pensions. A guaranteed livable wage would be a small "cost" compared to these other social services and would replace a patchwork of supports, the social safety net, that leave many falling through the cracks. If you don't understand this try reading Thomas Piketty's book, Capital in the Twenty-First Century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Piketty
One or a thousand examples are meaningless here. They are your micro economics. You need research to find the totals. What does your macro economics text say about the totals for inheritance and income for various countries for the past 100 years? Piketty criticizes past texts for going on about theory without doing any actual research around the numbers. What text are you working from?
How does anyone who lives in market housing in Metro Vancouver manage to survive these days? Asking for a friend...
CERB is $2000 per month. EI is 55% of your income. considering the cost of living in Vancouver, most people, even with decent paying jobs were pretty much living paycheque to paycheque
Are people just letting their bills pile up hoping this ends soon, and hoping they can dig themselves out of the red...one day?
I know we're supposed to keep a 3-4 months savings, just in case. But it's looking like this will last much longer...
CERB is $2000 per month. EI is 55% of your income. considering the cost of living in Vancouver, most people, even with decent paying jobs were pretty much living paycheque to paycheque
Are people just letting their bills pile up hoping this ends soon, and hoping they can dig themselves out of the red...one day?
I know we're supposed to keep a 3-4 months savings, just in case. But it's looking like this will last much longer...
That's what I would want a guaranteed livable wage to deal with. It could be treated as a loan and interest could accrue at the Bank of Canada rate to keep the Fraser Institute happy. Everyone would know that in times like this they can make the rent payments and buy food. When things get better and people have enough income the money could be clawed back as an addition to income tax.
Info from Maggie's Toronto. The rules referred to changed yesterday and the info hasn't been updated yet but still helpful.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...0yEw6RyHXyiqnrA45BoNToJ21r2BPg-WqUkmW2iIQw9MM
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...0yEw6RyHXyiqnrA45BoNToJ21r2BPg-WqUkmW2iIQw9MM
Not just an issue in Canada:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/04/19/sex-workers-japan-coronavirus-pkg-sr-ripley-vpx.cnn
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https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/04/19/sex-workers-japan-coronavirus-pkg-sr-ripley-vpx.cnn
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