Ever had an erection at a swimming pool?; a bulge forms in your swimming trunks?

[jjinvan]

Izzy got it pretty much right, the only other thing I'd point out is that the reason I'd assume the guy was white if someone else had told the story and not mentioned that he was Chinese is because I've actually BEEN to wreck beach, A LOT.

On a typical summer day you'll find maybe 3000 people at wreck beach. Of those 3000 people, there MIGHT be 20-30 asian people in total, at most.

I never actually walked around counting, but, that would be my guestimate.

You see MANY more asian tourists at wreck beach walking around fully clothed with cameras than laying around nude. You rarely ever see non-asian tourists walking around with cameras. (I am assuming they are tourists because they are walking around on wreck beach in long pants and dress shirts and dress shoes and ties with cameras, to me that indicates a tourist)

So, the fact that he was a Chinese guy who wasn't fully clothed and walking around with a camera was a very rare thing and worthy of note.

 

[jjinvan]

By the way...

While it might be difficult to tell SOME of the asian nationals apart, especially those with shared borders that move around a lot, (North Korea for example?) I think it is safe to say that anyone halfway paying attention can tell a First Nations, Fillipino, Japanese or Vietnamese person from a Chinese person. (Especially First Nations, I mean come on, seriously)

 

[OTBn]

With that said, if one were to state simply that a creepy guy was whacking off on WB, how would most people imagine him? I know I would probably imagine an average height, middle aged white guy, probably thinning a bit, and probably with a bit of a belly. Why? Because in my experience, the majority of creepy guys that are prone to that type of behavior tend to fit that description.

Now, if JJ, like myself, comes up with the above image, when thinking of the term "creepy" perhaps he added the description of Chinese to counter the possibly automatic assumption that the creepy guy was white, not to state that Chinese people are more creepy, ut simply to state that creepy guys was Chinese.

Do most of us actually visualize race in a simple straightforward “creepy guy” descriptor? … then to presume to attach a false (Chinese) race portrayal to protect whitey… LOL – playing the reverse race card. Oh my!

I don't know if the above is the case or not, but what does it say about people like myself, who are white, who assume that "creepy guy" automatically means white?

Since you asked – it might suggest you have an unnatural race fixation.

This whole thread is bullshit and is just a way for some people to make themselves feel more morally superior than others.

It’s a rather encompassing thread spanning diverse opinions… notwithstanding morally superior impressions in the eye of the beholder.

So, the fact that he was a Chinese guy who wasn't fully clothed and walking around with a camera was a very rare thing and worthy of note.

So… he was a guy who wasn’t fully clothed and walking around with a camera… wanking… nuff said – sounds creepy.

What’s that you say? He had a small dick, you say? Oh… ok. He was Chinese, you say? Oh…ok.

 

[georgebushmoron]

Izzy got it pretty much right, the only other thing I'd point out is that the reason I'd assume the guy was white if someone else had told the story and not mentioned that he was Chinese is because I've actually BEEN to wreck beach, A LOT.

On a typical summer day you'll find maybe 3000 people at wreck beach. Of those 3000 people, there MIGHT be 20-30 asian people in total, at most.

I never actually walked around counting, but, that would be my guestimate.

You see MANY more asian tourists at wreck beach walking around fully clothed with cameras than laying around nude. You rarely ever see non-asian tourists walking around with cameras. (I am assuming they are tourists because they are walking around on wreck beach in long pants and dress shirts and dress shoes and ties with cameras, to me that indicates a tourist)

So, the fact that he was a Chinese guy who wasn't fully clothed and walking around with a camera was a very rare thing and worthy of note.

Now that's interesting. I've been to Wreck Beach only twice, the first time at night with one GF (practically nobody was around), and the second time with another GF in the middle of the day but we were fucking the whole time so I didn't notice other people much except this one creepy guy who kept trying to position himself so he could see my dick in her pussy or my dick in her mouth. It would never have crossed my mind that Asians would represent a disproportionately small fraction of those on Wreck Beach, thinking it would be about the same as the proportions in the Lower Mainland in any other public setting. That said, I thus could not blame you if you noted he was Asian, as it would be relevant to note that. But as for being Chinese, I don't know. It would be like saying you saw a Pole but it was a Scot. Some Scots don't want to be identified as Poles - if you didn't know, they'd rather you not guess.

Another interesting thing to me is that you noted Asians there carried cameras! Shit! While I don't mind getting photographed doing some girl, I sure don't want that done at a nudist beach by some anonymous person!

 

[jjinvan]

Now that's interesting. I've been to Wreck Beach only twice, the first time at night with one GF (practically nobody was around), and the second time with another GF in the middle of the day but we were fucking the whole time so I didn't notice other people much except this one creepy guy who kept trying to position himself so he could see my dick in her pussy or my dick in her mouth. It would never have crossed my mind that Asians would represent a disproportionately small fraction of those on Wreck Beach, thinking it would be about the same as the proportions in the Lower Mainland in any other public setting. That said, I thus could not blame you if you noted he was Asian, as it would be relevant to note that. But as for being Chinese, I don't know. It would be like saying you saw a Pole but it was a Scot. Some Scots don't want to be identified as Poles - if you didn't know, they'd rather you not guess.

Another interesting thing to me is that you noted Asians there carried cameras! Shit! While I don't mind getting photographed doing some girl, I sure don't want that done at a nudist beach by some anonymous person!

You had sex at wreck beach in the middle of the day?

I've been there many many many times and I've never seen any sex going on on the beach (usually the gays wander off into the bushes to go at it).

Yep, there are usually VERY few asians at wreck and the few that there are are mostly tourist-looking types wandering around fully clothed with cameras around their necks.

 

[wilde]

I must be a very patient fellow, but I'll try again to explain to you something metropolitan high school kids grasp easily.

You see, "Tall Blonde" are two physical attributes that do not denote a negative stereotype. Neither tall nor blonde have a positive or negative bias, because they are merely physical attributes as opposed to behavioural ones. But "creepy Chinese" is the combination of a behavioural attribute with a ethnic one. The behavioural attribute "creepy" you chose to use most people would find to be very negative. Hence you've communicated to people that a particular ethnic background has negative behavioural attributes. This is stereotyping because of course, an ethnic background is not uniformly associated with a behavioural attribute - especially a very negative one.

Had you said, "Sexy Blonde" or "Bitchy Redhead", you would have communicated to everyone that in the first case: 1) all blondes are sexy, or 2) no blondes are sexy except this one. In the latter case, you would have communicated either 1) all redheads are bitchy, or 2) redheads are nice except this particular one who is notably bitchy. However, since western society in which we live tends to favor blondes, most would have assumed you meant all blondes are sexy. And since there is an existing stereotype that redheads have bad tempers, most would have assumed you meant that all readheads are bitchy. So it stands to reason that what you say, without any form of contingency to explain what you mean, will always be interpreted within social norms. Thus since Chinese people, because of being immigrants, have unfortunately attached a dubious reputation compared to their domestic white counterparts, most would assume you meant that the fellow being Chinese is also likely to be creepy.

Furthermore, you also exa_c_e_r_bate the problem by pointing out that he has a very small penis, which undoubtedly puts you right smack in the midst of those who are labeled racists by society at large. You also failed to show with much validity how it is you determined that this person was in fact Chinese. And had that person been Chinese, you disregarded if they had Canadian (or American) citizenship as not being relevant at all but instead focussed on his ethnicity as being worthy of noting. You couldn't have done much worse in making yourself look like a pig.

Had you been more sensitive to these issues, you probably could have escaped implications or accusations of being racist, but you chose instead to defend yourself by taking the literal tact of what words you used and that somehow they have no meaning within a larger context. But people are relatively intelligent and thus read the context and not the literal meaning where appropriate. So you also failed to address the true meaning of what you've said as understood by others. Which leads me back to your lack of sensitivity to people and I do wonder how it is that a doctor (as you had said you were in the past) could possibly be so obtuse.

Thank you for that in-depth analysis. Very close to my thoughts but I was too lazy and pissed off with our resident Doggie to articulate the above as good as you have. Besides Doggie will either just brush it off or entertain us some more with his unique brand of humor. See how he conveniently ignored your above post by agreeing with Indy Isabelle's.

In the end, if a guy cannot fathom the difference and implication of calling someone just creepy as opposed to a creepy [insert race] guy, then I seriously doubt his claim of being a doctor. And if he indeed is one then I worry about his patients.

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[tianna]

for the record

im kinda white.. Im canadian.. but not "white".. I have an exotic ethinic background... a great mix I think..

once I was so turned on.. that I excused myself to the bathroom in a restaurant and got myself off in the stall... no I did not used anything... just touched myself..

another time.. I was so hot and bothered that I climed on top of my parthner in a park.. by the beach... and had sex with all kinds of people walking around..

hmm... another time we had sex in a parking lot.. yep slammed up against the car.. a few drove by.. mmm that was fun

just thinking of some more!!!!

where is the best place you ever got off ??? or on ????

 

[tianna]

sexcapades

thats it !!!!.. all the roll around, dirty, sweaty.. risky, body thrushing.. screaming, biting... body slamming... bed breaking.. hair pulling.. ass slapping..... back scratching good old times... LETS HERE ABOUT THEM

 

[georgebushmoron]

You had sex at wreck beach in the middle of the day?

YES

I've been there many many many times and I've never seen any sex going on on the beach (usually the gays wander off into the bushes to go at it).

Well, the beach is large enough. We were at the far south end of it, behind a big log. There were a few people nearby, but not many. It was a bit breezy and the sun was weak. I never did her doggy style, it would have put me high above the log. We were mostly laying down.

 

[LaCreme]

I'm white and I woke up this morning... I MUST be racist *rolls eyes*

Everyone is a little racist, let's face it, it's part of human nature. It just seems to me that it's only wrong to be human and therefore a little racist if your white.

Why can't we all just get along, stop throwing down the "racist" label @ the drop of the hat and enjoy imagining how nice it would be to have Tianna grinding her tight little ass back against our groins on the Skytrain?

GO TIANNA!

that why you wrote a bad review to mia fox you are so pathetic!
and people are going to look up to this " salopard" watch your self a lots of people dont like racist dirty ass comment. go yah!

no offence to TIANNA , but you HAPPYHUNTER face it you are a homo.
he is not a real men he is a pussy..
you know what HH fuck you fuck you!!!!!
so come on jjivan do your job "say it say it" the racist thing we were going to say..lolllllllllllllllllll

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

La Creme (aka Mia Fox)

Chill out girl.

You are doing nothing but damaging your own rep when you post shite like this.

Rule # 1. Don't threaten people on a board.

Rule # 2. DON'T THREATEN PEOPLE ON A BOARD

Rule # 3. Don't drag your bad review, which you might have earned, into another thread because then even more people will read your bad review and your silly bitchy comments and are less likely to book you as you come across as unstable.

 

[jjinvan]

Rule #4: Try to make some sort of sense when you post.

 

[Nickthenoob]

Fuck. Let's stop the fucking pain. Blah blah blah. Some of us give a shit. Some of us don't. Some people are racist. Some people are not. Some people tthink they aren't racist. Some people think they... arent?! I just wanna read posts.

Nic

 

[gordfurb]

stop this madness

I thought this thread would be a good read,but after a couple of posts i quit reading it because i seen where it was going .All because he said creepy asian guy!,big deal, what if he said creepy white guy?,so what!!!.I had something funny to ad to this thread but with all the racial b.s,maybe we can re start this thread without all the b.s,"i took offence to this","i took offence to that",really seems childish.Iam sure the original post was not intended to make fun of, or belittle any race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[WalterMitty]

one last question to GBM

Had you said, "Sexy Blonde" or "Bitchy Redhead", you would have communicated to everyone that in the first case: 1) all blondes are sexy, or 2) no blondes are sexy except this one. In the latter case, you would have communicated either 1) all redheads are bitchy, or 2) redheads are nice except this particular one who is notably bitchy. However, since western society in which we live tends to favor blondes, most would have assumed you meant all blondes are sexy. And since there is an existing stereotype that redheads have bad tempers, most would have assumed you meant that all readheads are bitchy. So it stands to reason that what you say, without any form of contingency to explain what you mean, will always be interpreted within social norms. Thus since Chinese people, because of being immigrants, have unfortunately attached a dubious reputation compared to their domestic white counterparts, most would assume you meant that the fellow being Chinese is also likely to be creepy.

Then, by what you said above, it is not the statement, or the person making the statement, that is racist. Rather, it is the reader who has made his own assumptions, based on his/her pre-existing stereotypes, that is racist.

No?

Walter

 

[jjinvan]

Then, by what you said above, it is not the statement, or the person making the statement, that is racist. Rather, it is the reader who has made his own assumptions, based on his/her pre-existing stereotypes, that is racist.

ex-fuckin-zactly.

we need a 'round of applause' emoticon.

 

[LaCreme]

Chill out girl.

You are doing nothing but damaging your own rep when you post shite like this.

Rule # 1. Don't threaten people on a board.

Rule # 2. DON'T THREATEN PEOPLE ON A BOARD

Rule # 3. Don't drag your bad review, which you might have earned, into another thread because then even more people will read your bad review and your silly bitchy comments and are less likely to book you as you come across as unstable.

of course miss "you are so perfect" because you have fat white ass..
i love those bitchy comment for breakfast..
i am the way i am "connasse" and you wont change me because you are a female.. i hate my mom .. i hate you as well.. so you chill out..if i did say anything in here is because i had good reason and you stay out of my site ha ha rule #4 ! " you not better then me fuck you!"

and dont blame me if your business is down.. be a smart ass next time and write to happy gay hunter o7 how much you feel sorry for him and bitching at me hey baby they we go again .. remember i am black i had a hard life your comment dosent do anything to me . give me some sugar or dont talk to me.

 

[jjinvan]

of course miss "you are so perfect" because you have fat white ass..
i love those bitchy comment for breakfast..
i am the way i am "connasse" and you wont change me because you are a female.. i hate my mom .. i hate you as well.. so you chill out..if i did say anything in here is because i had good reason and you stay out of my site ha ha rule #4 ! " you not better then me fuck you!"

and dont blame me if your business is down.. be a smart ass next time and write to happy gay hunter o7 how much you feel sorry for him and bitching at me hey baby they we go again .. remember i am black i had a hard life your comment dosent do anything to me . give me some sugar or dont talk to me.

Not so great at self-marketing, are you?

 

[LaCreme]

Fuck. Let's stop the fucking pain. Blah blah blah. Some of us give a shit. Some of us don't. Some people are racist. Some people are not. Some people tthink they aren't racist. Some people think they... arent?! I just wanna read posts.

Nic

i agree for the blah, blah. i am simply having fun in here.

 

[LaCreme]

Not so great at self-marketing, are you?

what do you mean? i need a anwser now? be more global please because english is my 3th language .lol i cant believe i am learning a nother one too