Elyse/Elle

alter.ego7

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I don't post much but I thought I'd flag something for all of you to notice: I saw a new ad in EC for an "Elle" but I believe there is something fishy about this ad; I think it is Elyse that used to be on EC but is now "replaced" or "renamed" as "Elle." These kinds of switcheroos always raise an eyebrow with me...something is not right. I'd watch out here, guys.
 

tabby

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i have a feeling she has just simplified her name for those that couldn't say Elise properly. she is using the same picture as before and has add a new one as well. i don't think this is some kind of hoax and is probably nothing to be suspicious of. other fine SPs in the city have changed the name under which they work. my 2 cents.
 

Bare

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Saw this today too Elle, with a familiar picture that I thought I had seen on Elyse's ad last week, this week her ad (Elyse) is got and we have Elle. So I went back to the review on Elyse and there was a link, I clicked on it. and It brought me to the new ad for Elle. A little confusing. I don't know why these girls do this, they bring suspision on themselves. If they're going to change their name (after only a week!) put "formerly know as" in the add, so as not to confuse us. Just a thought.
 

CisForCookie

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gobby said:
I only see one new pic and $250 for incall??:rolleyes:
My bad, 1 new pic :) I corrected the post.

Yeah $250 is a bit rich but w/e

Megan was $$.5 and was well worth it...and my fav is at $.8 and then there are some who are $ and it's still a WOT.

Higher prices definitely attract different clientelle those who can readily afford it and those who saved up a LOoooong assssss time for it hehehe. but unfortunately it really doesn't mean it's better service.

Though Age of the SP often does mean better service though weird how that works :) must be the experience thing, or they're just naturally freakier at that age.
 

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CisForCookie said:
Though Age of the SP often does mean better service though weird how that works :) must be the experience thing, or they're just naturally freakier at that age.
Age is defiitely a factor. Realizing that there are exceptions to the rules, the big problem with younger (<25) girls is that they lack experience in "customer satisfaction" and too many of them seem to have this attitude like they are doing you some kind of favor. The older ladies in general, definitely know how to make your experience more enjoyable.

PS: My apologies for hijacking this thread.:D
 

CisForCookie

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Pantsnake said:
the big problem with younger (<25) girls is that they lack experience in "customer satisfaction" and too many of them seem to have this attitude like they are doing you some kind of favor.
Nicely put.

Since this is a business, and like most businesses you'd figure they would rather have repeat clients. I figure It's harder/more costly/time consuming to get a new client then it is to keep one.

I guess it doesn't matter if they're in it for the short term...w/e

Someone post a review of ELLE please, pretty pretty please hehehe...
 

farmboy

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Fact:In business in general , it costs 60% more to acqiure a new client , than keeping a existing one.
Fact:We spend 80% of our time chasing clients who give us 20% of our business.
Bottom line , take care of existing clients first , the rest will fall in place.
 

CisForCookie

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farmboy said:
Fact:In business in general , it costs 60% more to acqiure a new client , than keeping a existing one.
Fact:We spend 80% of our time chasing clients who give us 20% of our business.
Bottom line , take care of existing clients first , the rest will fall in place.
Yeah it seemed like common sense if you were to think about it, but thanks for putting it into a quantitative form.
 

rubintugger

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farmboy said:
Fact:In business in general , it costs 60% more to acqiure a new client , than keeping a existing one.
Fact:We spend 80% of our time chasing clients who give us 20% of our business.
Bottom line , take care of existing clients first , the rest will fall in place.
Actually, I think the first number is much higher, I've heard as much as 600% more to get a new client.

And if you raise your prices 10%, you only have to do 80% of the work to make the same profit, meaning that if you lose less than 20% of your clients due to the price hike, you come out ahead.

But then again, 75% of all statistics are made up, and 50% of people surveyed believe that 80% of the rest of the people lie 45% of the time. And if you beleive any of those facts, I know a lady with rubber gloves you should meet...

Rubin
 

Pantsnake

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rubintugger said:
Actually, I think the first number is much higher, I've heard as much as 600% more to get a new client.

And if you raise your prices 10%, you only have to do 80% of the work to make the same profit, meaning that if you lose less than 20% of your clients due to the price hike, you come out ahead.

But then again, 75% of all statistics are made up, and 50% of people surveyed believe that 80% of the rest of the people lie 45% of the time. And if you beleive any of those facts, I know a lady with rubber gloves you should meet...

Rubin
Okay guys, now you're giving me a headache. Better go call Sharla :D
 

Billock

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I'm not really sure how you'd apply that to the escort business. It hardly costs them anything to aquire clients. I think an ad on EC is $50 a month, regardless of the number of clients it brings in. They don't have to pay a human resources or sales dept. Perhaps there might be a slight correlation to an agency, but an indie is a whole nother ball of wax.

As for Elle/Elise, I think Tabby is probably right. I saw her and posted a review of her already. Didn't run into any problems with her at all, and I enjoyed her service. If she were a bait & switch or anything, I'm sure someone would have bitched about it by now. Her ad has been up for over a month.
 

CisForCookie

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Billock said:
I'm not really sure how you'd apply that to the escort business. It hardly costs them anything to aquire clients. I think an ad on EC is $50 a month, regardless of the number of clients it brings in. They don't have to pay a human resources or sales dept. Perhaps there might be a slight correlation to an agency, but an indie is a whole nother ball of wax.
So you aren't sure how repeat business is better than new clientelle?

Well there's probably

~~[ Probability ]~~
Less chances for meeting a potentially bad date.
Less chances for getting fake bookings.
Less chances for cancellations.

Say the girl takes 4 bookings, and say she only works 2 days a week. I think she would rather have 4 regulars she knows will show up rather than have 1 regular and 3 that might fall under the probability category.

Don't know about you, but I think repeat clientelle is good for any business, no matter what the business is.
 

Billock

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CisForCookie said:
So you aren't sure how repeat business is better than new clientelle?
No, I never said that. I said I don't think it actually costs them much to aquire new clientelle, in response to the post that says it costs 60% more to aquire a new client than keep an existing one.
 

Avery

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Billock said:
No, I never said that. I said I don't think it actually costs them much to aquire new clientelle, in response to the post that says it costs 60% more to aquire a new client than keep an existing one.
It all depends how you define "cost". When you consider the cost to the employer of a selesperson's time making several calls on a prospect, the 60% figure is undoubtedly low. If you're looking at only the cash outlay required of an escort to advertise, then it doesn't "cost" more to acquire new clients than to hang on to existing ones.
 

farmboy

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Cost

Cost has to include time and energy. Escort business is slightly different then most, however existing clientele is highly important, and that is clearly shown with the ladies whom do NOT see new clients , and no longer have to advertise, and do EXTREMELY WELL! Giving poor service, etc which loses clients results in every day requiring a whole new slate of clients, hence the poor cash flow for many of the ladies.Eventually the reputation preceeds them , and then some resort to changing their name, hoping to "fool" old clients. My estimate is that 1/2 of the girls out there barely make poverty line, at best. The top gals probably make 50000+ a year , and take holidays, drive new cars, dress nice , etc. etc. Its a customer service industry, and in a small market like Winnipeg it pretty much requires repeat clients to survive and prosper. Just my 2c worth.
Too often ( I'm talking regular business but same applies to escorts) we neglect the clients that are putting food on our table , and chase new ones , expecting we will benefit, however that can backfire if you dont continue giving exsisting clients top notch service. To often we give "deals" to lure a new client , whom we may only deal with once , where it really should be our mainstay clients whom should get the break!
 
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