Duration of sex with SP
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I am still upset at the comment
"Imagine, someone willing to go so hard and fast to the point of actually hurting someone considers that sp as being greedy and lazy. "
I would never intentionally physically really hurt someone just to get some action. I don't have a money problem at all and it isn't hard to go back to a sp you know you like. The issue is finding new ones and I am always TOFTT.
"Imagine, someone willing to go so hard and fast to the point of actually hurting someone considers that sp as being greedy and lazy. "
I would never intentionally physically really hurt someone just to get some action. I don't have a money problem at all and it isn't hard to go back to a sp you know you like. The issue is finding new ones and I am always TOFTT.
That is how you present yourself. If you do not want that impression being left, you should take a little more care with your complaints.
SB, demanding discounts is how you receive discounts. This is known. Please do not imply that they are freely given, or extra time is offered when the reality is the major complaints about you is that you push for unpaid overtime among other things. There is no need to try to dress it up as being 'popular' lol. Its great that you are willing to TOFTT, but when the problem is you are unable to repeat with good sps, then put them on a 'list' of bad providers for revenge let's just say, the chances someone who doesn't know about you wanting to see you, after that sort of thing as well as bragging about your stamina, well, you just don't seem like a happy guy in this hobby. As maxx points out, he was successful after he stuck with one patient sp. If someone is having ED issues, then getting comfortable with someone is the key to that.
One guy seeing multiple sps is not an expert on sexuality, but one sp seeing a thousand different individual men has a much better grasp of what is common, and what is staged.
Wow are you ever full of assumptions.
Who complained that I pushed for more time? Where are any of your facts? Who said that I asked for a discount? No it is not true that asking for a discount is the only way to get one. Have you read the advertising section? SP's all the time are offering deals gimmicks and discounts that is actually a fact. You don't have to ask for a discount to be offered one.
Which good SP did I put on a bad list? How do you know they are a good SP? I have hardly EVER written about a well known GOOD SP in a negative way. Repeating with SP? Did you not read my post about knowing SP's for years? I was seeing Raven from 99th street in Edmonton for over 20 years. I have been seeing Lil Courtney for over 10 Years.
I don't think you know anything about what you are talking about. I am one of the happiest guys ever LOL!
Allow me to give you a word of advice. Don't argue with Pillowtalk, cos even when you win, you lose....
Ok fair enough I get your point you can only hit your head on a brick wall so many times. It isn't the brick wall's fault as it couldn't possibly understand how great it is to be you.Allow me to give you a word of advice. Don't argue with Pillowtalk, cos even when you win, you lose....
You can tell she's one of those SP's that love the job.Ok fair enough I get your point you can only hit your head on a brick wall so many times. It isn't the brick wall's fault as it couldn't possibly understand how great it is to be you.
Hopefully for her customers sake she's all "pillow" and no "talk".
No nickcan....you are wrong....VERY WRONG. Pillowtalk is very close to the mark. If you are taking 40 minutes of fs to reach ejaculation then you are certainly not anywhere near the median. Guys over 18 "usually" do not last 15+ minutes....only rarely. Need proof?
http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band137/b137-4.html
This study of 491 men showed that most 18-30 year old males took 6.5 minutes to climax with intervaginal sex (from the time they inserted their stick..to the time they came in her vagina).....and older men actually took slightly less time (Figure 2). There was no significant difference among men who used condoms and those that didn't. If you look at the study (Figure 1) you will see that almost none of the 491 men took more than 30-35 minutes. No men took 38, 39 or 40 minutes....about 2 men took 42 minutes....and the last of the 491 men fell asleep without climaxing at 43 minutes....so there you have it. Facts are facts....pillowtalk was right......your situation is extremely rare.
There is a reason most (and almost all men) cum fairly quickly. We all have the same physiology as stone age man....and it could be very dangerous for stone age man to be embroiled in coitus rapture for extended periods. Any man knows...during the deed...the mind and intellect seem to vanish and animal instincts start to take over with a sole focus of lust and building pleasure.....during this time, stone age man would not be able to defend himself, his woman or his family from invaders, animal attack, other men/tribes etc. So naturally, man developed/evolved to complete the pleasureful act with some expedience...hopefully long enough to please the woman such that she may orgasm thus increasing the chance of sperm bathing the proper parts for successful conception.....As a co-evoloution....it would be advantageous for a woman to orgasm near or just after the man came inside of her....so...at approximately 6.5 minutes on average.
So if you, nickcan, were stone age man....your "ability" to last so long would likely be a huge disadvantage, and the result would be that your genes would be selected against....and would reduce in frequency among the population.
6.5 minutes...doesn't seem like very long...but how many of us have brought a stopwatch and timed it.....6.5 minutes of thrusting may seem like 15...as some of us know that we lose a sensation of time during intercourse.....Hmmm...I just may ask my sp if we could try this little experiment.....in the name of science of course....I hope she'll take me up on this
Premature ejaculation is much more common than your situation.....going close to an hour with condoms or without may suggest that you might want to have a chat with you doctor if it bothers you....and if some sp's want that...then all the power to you...you can be their favorite client.
The actual term for the condition you describe is Delayed Ejaculation, a fairly rare sexual condition in which some men take 30 or more minutes to climax.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/delayed-ejaculation/DS01174
I don't want to set up a phobia in you, there's nothing wrong with being different, but your comment to pillowtalk was too wrong to ignore. I know I "can" last 40 minutes....but I would much prefer to cum when my body and mind agree that the moment is here.
If this is bothering you, which as the OP it seems to be an issue for you, it certainly wouldn't hurt to just have a discussion with your doctor...either that or find sp's who love it and then the world's your oyster.
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I wish we could remove this correlation in guy's minds between use of lube and lack of arousal. Its so not like that! Sometimes a lady is dehydrated and doesn't get really wet, even if she is turned on. Some ladies use lube all the time, every time (which is actually a really good idea) because it reduces the chances of the condom breaking during sex. And condoms themselves are notorious moisture-suckers, so sometimes even if a lady starts out all slippery wet, a few minutes of latex sex can dry her up... even if she is actually enjoying herself. Please, please don't take it personally!
Some lube is way better too!I wish we could remove this correlation in guy's minds between use of lube and lack of arousal. Its so not like that! Sometimes a lady is dehydrated and doesn't get really wet, even if she is turned on. Some ladies use lube all the time, every time (which is actually a really good idea) because it reduces the chances of the condom breaking during sex. And condoms themselves are notorious moisture-suckers, so sometimes even if a lady starts out all slippery wet, a few minutes of latex sex can dry her up... even if she is actually enjoying herself. Please, please don't take it personally!
I didn't know there was a term for it, thx!
Another reason for DE beyond medical, also includes using devices like cock rings, etc. Again, unless someone has a PE issue, such tricks aren't enhancing the experience, just a game playing trick. I doubt if many sps enjoy having someone deliberately manipulative, then try to pass it off, again, as tho they are the ones with the problem. Too lazy, too greedy, doesn't enjoy the work, blah blah blah. How about simply doesn't enjoy people who use elaborate tricks to manipulate them? A manipulative trickster seems like someone who is bitter, angry and really really hates women, or at least sex workers, and uses these tricks to punish them, hurt them or otherwise make things incredibly uncomfortable. What can she do? Object? And then what happens? She ends up on a 'list' of an sp who is greedy, lazy and hates her clients. Another manipulative trick, if you ask me lol.
Condoms are an issue and do make a difference, some can be quite tight. Add to that the fact they do remove some sensation and yes, condoms do affect duration. I dont care what any study's results say, for me it makes a difference (frankly I enjoy having more control over it).
I see no point in jerking off before seeing an sp the second orgasm pales in comparison to the first. In fact sex itself isn't as good the second go around, there's a significant loss in sensitivity.
Not too mention I like lots of build up, foreplay, touching, kissing before actual oral sex and sex - so reaching orgasm halfway through a 2hr session can mean unfinished business.
So my preference is to last longer anyways - but it's better by switching up positions, activities, or just straight up taking a break (which is definitly preferable with an sp I can get along with so I can have more cuddling, talking and laughing). If they actually want me to cum, I'll cum, it's not hard. Just a matter of "flexing" and a certain angle in a missonary (or mish variant) position and I'll pop with a minute or two - it's quite easy in fact, albeit not as good. In fact out of the half dozen sessions I've had only one involved msog and it was because I was so out of shape (physical endurance wise) I was too embarassed to say "yes I need a break" when I was asked and I just did that trick instead to get my break. I cannot however keep myself from orgasm, if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen.
Also add in some sp's encourage a more porn style sex ie hard thrusting and whatnot. Sure this is great if the sp is either into it or doing a convincing job of displaying she's into it (I'm always assuming you guys are faking, I'm not gonna lie, so I'm not out to impress anyone because I flat out believe I wont to begin with or assume off the bat you've had better - lol takes any pressure off! And frankly I like the role reversal of now being that one that's getting enticed to come back for another session and add to your business), this really can add to mental stimulation and the overall "fun" if mutually enjoyed. But hard thrusting isn't good in and of itself infact it can be detrimental to reaching orgasm I find, as now I'm not only aware of different sex sensations, sounds and things I should be focused on, but also strained muscles and losing "footing" and have to quickly reposition and such.
Not to mention, some sps may have a problem with kissing during sex, or even being physically close during (yes first one I tried was like this) and THAT makes a big difference. Hell spent two hours with an sp that kissed like crap and so I was basically mentally checked out from the word go.
Do I jerk off, yea plenty. I live in a camp that is 95% guys, the attractive women get stared at like meat so much none of them are happy anymore either (not saying i blame them either) and dont care how hot a woman is, if she isn't smiling I'm not interested. What else am I suppose to do. Besides it helps me sleep. Add to this I have a good strong grip because of my job and yea I've probably lost a bit of sensitivity from that alone.
Guess what, if you haven't figured it out by now, I'm a bit of a female when it comes to getting off. Sure I like sport fucking as much as the next guy. And yea the primary reason I'm contacting an sp is I DO wanna get laid. But want makes a meeting really memorable and worth it, and "holy oh my god that was great sex, please stop the world from spinning I need to find my socks!" - is being able to give and get some affection, being close to someone, and yea have a connection with someone for a couple hours a la "girlfriend experience" that everyone likes to put on their web page but out of the 5 sp's I've tried only 1 actually did it (the first one could be someone else's cup of tea, just not mine though - the other 3, not even close definitly just wham, bam, thank you maam). Cause I frankly dont want a relationship anymore, people will eventually start taking others for granted, I hate it when it happens to me, and I find it despicable when I do it to someone else. But g'dammit do ever I miss human contact. So guess what, without that mental stimulation it can make a difference in getting to a natural orgasm. and I'm willing to bet there are a few more guys that fall into that catagory of wanting a bit more than walking through the door and saying "me fuck now".
In that study, how were people partnered up. Was it with a partner they were familiar with? Very familiar with? Or strangers? Went out with one woman for 2 years. After about a year she could get me off within minutes of sex as she knew exactly where the buttons where plus how and when to push them. When we first had sex I was so nervous and worried about doing a proper job and trying to pay attention so much about her body so I could read w/e signs may be there I ended up not having an orgasm. So yea there are so many damn variables that it isn't even funny. Definitly way too many to say 491 couples had sex and avg time is 6 mins. Or if a guy doesn't come in 7-15 mins he's an asshole cause he's pulling some stunt to get free time. Thanks I should stop reading this forum cause now I'm gonna be self conscious of something else and probably get laughed at again by an sp with an introductory email saying I take too long to cum.
I see no point in jerking off before seeing an sp the second orgasm pales in comparison to the first. In fact sex itself isn't as good the second go around, there's a significant loss in sensitivity.
Not too mention I like lots of build up, foreplay, touching, kissing before actual oral sex and sex - so reaching orgasm halfway through a 2hr session can mean unfinished business.
So my preference is to last longer anyways - but it's better by switching up positions, activities, or just straight up taking a break (which is definitly preferable with an sp I can get along with so I can have more cuddling, talking and laughing). If they actually want me to cum, I'll cum, it's not hard. Just a matter of "flexing" and a certain angle in a missonary (or mish variant) position and I'll pop with a minute or two - it's quite easy in fact, albeit not as good. In fact out of the half dozen sessions I've had only one involved msog and it was because I was so out of shape (physical endurance wise) I was too embarassed to say "yes I need a break" when I was asked and I just did that trick instead to get my break. I cannot however keep myself from orgasm, if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen.
Also add in some sp's encourage a more porn style sex ie hard thrusting and whatnot. Sure this is great if the sp is either into it or doing a convincing job of displaying she's into it (I'm always assuming you guys are faking, I'm not gonna lie, so I'm not out to impress anyone because I flat out believe I wont to begin with or assume off the bat you've had better - lol takes any pressure off! And frankly I like the role reversal of now being that one that's getting enticed to come back for another session and add to your business), this really can add to mental stimulation and the overall "fun" if mutually enjoyed. But hard thrusting isn't good in and of itself infact it can be detrimental to reaching orgasm I find, as now I'm not only aware of different sex sensations, sounds and things I should be focused on, but also strained muscles and losing "footing" and have to quickly reposition and such.
Not to mention, some sps may have a problem with kissing during sex, or even being physically close during (yes first one I tried was like this) and THAT makes a big difference. Hell spent two hours with an sp that kissed like crap and so I was basically mentally checked out from the word go.
Do I jerk off, yea plenty. I live in a camp that is 95% guys, the attractive women get stared at like meat so much none of them are happy anymore either (not saying i blame them either) and dont care how hot a woman is, if she isn't smiling I'm not interested. What else am I suppose to do. Besides it helps me sleep. Add to this I have a good strong grip because of my job and yea I've probably lost a bit of sensitivity from that alone.
Guess what, if you haven't figured it out by now, I'm a bit of a female when it comes to getting off. Sure I like sport fucking as much as the next guy. And yea the primary reason I'm contacting an sp is I DO wanna get laid. But want makes a meeting really memorable and worth it, and "holy oh my god that was great sex, please stop the world from spinning I need to find my socks!" - is being able to give and get some affection, being close to someone, and yea have a connection with someone for a couple hours a la "girlfriend experience" that everyone likes to put on their web page but out of the 5 sp's I've tried only 1 actually did it (the first one could be someone else's cup of tea, just not mine though - the other 3, not even close definitly just wham, bam, thank you maam). Cause I frankly dont want a relationship anymore, people will eventually start taking others for granted, I hate it when it happens to me, and I find it despicable when I do it to someone else. But g'dammit do ever I miss human contact. So guess what, without that mental stimulation it can make a difference in getting to a natural orgasm. and I'm willing to bet there are a few more guys that fall into that catagory of wanting a bit more than walking through the door and saying "me fuck now".
In that study, how were people partnered up. Was it with a partner they were familiar with? Very familiar with? Or strangers? Went out with one woman for 2 years. After about a year she could get me off within minutes of sex as she knew exactly where the buttons where plus how and when to push them. When we first had sex I was so nervous and worried about doing a proper job and trying to pay attention so much about her body so I could read w/e signs may be there I ended up not having an orgasm. So yea there are so many damn variables that it isn't even funny. Definitly way too many to say 491 couples had sex and avg time is 6 mins. Or if a guy doesn't come in 7-15 mins he's an asshole cause he's pulling some stunt to get free time. Thanks I should stop reading this forum cause now I'm gonna be self conscious of something else and probably get laughed at again by an sp with an introductory email saying I take too long to cum.
