Drug Free SPs?

[CorriGuy]

So the "I'm Quitting" thread got me thinking more on this subject. Are there genuinely drug free SPs out there? I assume they are, but in my very limited experience so far, in one case I walked on a meetup because the woman seemed stoned to the gills when I showed up. Nervous as I was, that just killed the mood for me. I won't disclose who it was because she's otherwise a very nice, bright and well reviewed person, (not to mention she was understanding with me about this afterwards) and I want to give benefit of the doubt too. It got me thinking.

Does smoking pot still qualify as "drug free" in this business? I know a lot of my friends who partake don't even think of themselves as "drug users". Maybe I'm just wrong or in the minority here. We are in BC after all heheh. When you read Drug and drama free, what is that supposed to mean?

I don't do drugs of any sort myself, and I'm not judging here, except for deciding which SPs to see, which I guess is judging in a way lol. But besides the question about "any legit drug free SPs", another question could be: So when you read a SP say they are DD Free, does that generally include pot smoking?

 

[violetblake]

I don't drink or use any drugs, including weed. I don't even drink coffee! I have yet to meet an escort that uses drugs while working. I know they're out there, but I just don't know them. All the girls I know are well-reviewed, so stick with well-reviewed girls and you'll be fine.

 

[Volpina Vance]

So the "I'm Quitting" thread got me thinking more on this subject. Are there genuinely drug free SPs out there? I assume they are, but in my very limited experience so far, in one case I walked on a meetup because the woman seemed stoned to the gills when I showed up. Nervous as I was, that just killed the mood for me. I won't disclose who it was because she's otherwise a very nice, bright and well reviewed person, (not to mention she was understanding with me about this afterwards) and I want to give benefit of the doubt too. It got me thinking.

Does smoking pot still qualify as "drug free" in this business? I know a lot of my friends who partake don't even think of themselves as "drug users". Maybe I'm just wrong or in the minority here. We are in BC after all heheh. When you read Drug and drama free, what is that supposed to mean?

I don't do drugs of any sort myself, and I'm not judging here, except for deciding which SPs to see, which I guess is judging in a way lol. But besides the question about "any legit drug free SPs", another question could be: So when you read a SP say they are DD Free, does that generally include pot smoking?

I believe that when the typical resident of the GVRD says she is drug free, that does not include marijuana use, unless explicitly stated as in Violet's case. However, I do not know of any independent SP who uses marijuana other than occasionally or socially.

Marijuana use seems to have some moral significance for you. This may be purely an interest in not breaking the law (aside: I wonder if the conditions under which you see escorts are purely legal?), or it may have relations to other beliefs of yours. You may disapprove of marijuana use due to effects of heavy long-term use.

I mention the above because I am trying to decide what it is that might make a client uncomfortable meeting an SP who is high on marijuana. It may signify that overall, her behaviour is less predictable than that of a person who does not use marijuana. Depending on a person's outlook, it may point to less personal control, increased vulnerability, decreased safety in a situation, or decreased emotional stability. I feel it would be difficult to prove any of these relations.

I suppose the factor of most significance is the act getting high at all vs. the act of getting high before meeting a client. After all, why is it that I myself do not smoke pot before meeting a client?

For one thing, my marijuana use is already extremely infrequent. When meeting a client, especially a strange man, I would not smoke marijuana because I would wish to appear, and to feel, in control of my surrounds. Inescapable is the fact that I am aware of negative stereotypes of prostitutes, and do not wish to invoke these. In some way I don't have time to explore, this may have to do with my ideas of respect.

What bothers me about this post is that I feel there is hint of judgement about prostitutes. In my experience, most or all escorts smoke weed at some point. However, they determine not to imbibe around their clients the same way a person in another industry would.

Addendum/Summary: While CorriGuy's SP made a poor professional judgement, it does not necessitate segregating the sheep from the goats re: marijuana use.

 

[badbadboy]

When I read the "I am quitting" thread the drugs I was thinking about were more of the pharmaceutical type not weed.

One visit to an SP in particular still makes me wonder about the drug use in the industry. It's the so called legal drugs obtained illegally that cause addictions are more of a concern to me as a visitor to their incall. She was making numerous phone calls/texts, being confrontational towards me and acting distracted throughout our appointment made me just get dressed and leave. I was uncertain what the hell was going on but my spydie's told me to bolt. I wasn't sure if a pimp or a drug dealer was going to be coming into the place while I was there.

I later traded PM's with someone who had seen her multiple times and he confirmed she was addicted to a prescribed pharmaceutical.

 

[CorriGuy]

Marijuana use seems to have some moral significance for you. This may be purely an interest in not breaking the law (aside: I wonder if the conditions under which you see escorts are purely legal?), or it may have relations to other beliefs of yours. You may disapprove of marijuana use due to effects of heavy long-term use.

I don't have any moral issues with pot, at least any more than I do with alcohol. I would prefer it if pot were legalised and regulated and taxed to the hilt like cigarettes and alcohol both are. It's just not for me, just like vodka is not for me (but give me a nice gin to drink!). And just like with alcohol, I don't enjoy it much when I'm with someone who have obviously used too much of it to the point where it's hard to even understand them.

I do have a moral objection to hard term drugs though. I see the effects of it in some of the work I do and without going into more details, it has a big effect on me.

 

[violetblake]

Well, the rate of dysfunction among SP's vs. the general female populace is much higher. It's just the way things are. That's not saying we're all dysfunctional but there's a high ratio who are. This is almost always comes hand-in-hand with addiction issues.

I've met only a couple girls whom I KNOW are drug free, I've met so many who are addicted to something or who party too much.
Just because they don't use drugs in front of you doesn't mean they aren't using. It just means you don't know. Drug users don't like to admit their usage to non-drug users. Just because they're well reviewed doesn't mean they're drug free! It just means that the guy was oblivious to the state of the girl he was with. Or it means they're better at hiding it than others.

I disagree. I've met several SPs, and they're some of the most sane and together people I've ever met lol. You can only hide a drug addiction for so long, clients might not always see it but friends generally do. The farther down you go, the more you'll see it. But well-reviewed independents it'll be rare to see. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but it's certainly not as much as people seem to think. Every drug addict I've ever known has not been an SP, so it's hardly limited to this industry.

 

[CorriGuy]

]Alcohol has no medicinal properties....

This is not correct Missy, depending on the form of alcohol. There's been countless studies into the health benefits of red wine, and even the axiom "guiness is good for you" is absolutely true - The University of Wisconsin did a pretty exhaustive study almost a decade ago into Guinness and other beers and determined there are very good health benefits from drinking a glass of the dark stuff every day. Especially for post-birth women, since it delivers three things they benefit from: Vitamin B, an iron boost, and the level of alcohol actually promotes breast milk production. A guy I follow on twitter goes on and on about this.

Alcohol in is pure form may have no benefits (or more detriments than benefits), but various alcohol delivery systems actually have a lot of health and medicinal benefits.

Edit - here's a link back to when the study first came out - the glass of stout even can replace the low-dose aspirin a day thing that helps prevent heart clots etc.