Driving Courtesy

squid

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Is it just me OR do most drivers yield to guys cutting in from the curb lane? Let me clarify. You're driving in the center lane. Traffic is bumper to bumper as usual and it's not rush hour! There are no cars parked in the curb lane for a block.. You glance in yr rear view mirror and see a car speeding in the curb lane trying to get ahead. Just as you are about to arrive at the first parked car the guy coming up the curb lane is trying to cut in front of you. I try never to let these a--holes in. Do they think it is their perogative to cut you off? Inevitably once they pull in to the center lane they then try to pull out again to pass more cars.
 

FortunateOne

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It's not just you!
I don't let those guys in and I am often on a road where the outside (curb lane) is the thru lane, meaning it is bumper to bumper and the merger a**holes are in the centre lane. They know and I know they needed to be in my lane, so wtf. The only ones I let in are the big semis -- even in my older bigger vehicle, I bow to the inevitable there. The rest of them can kiss my a**. :p

But the guy 2 cars ahead of me never seems to have a problem letting them ALL in, usually on the last 10 feet before the point of no return.
 

Arrrg

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what he does is not cool

However, what a lot of people misinterpret as "cutting in" is when a 2 lane road eventually becomes a one lane road.

In this case, proper alternating merging etiquette is in order. Traffic flows much better if you space out and allow for room to merge rather than try to squeeze a guy out.
 

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I agree, I try not to yield, unless of course there is some valid reason they were in the curb lane.

Similar to this on highways I try to never let fuckers force me to slow down to let them in the fast lane, especially when traffic is crawling. You don't NEED to be in the fast lane RIGHT now (on the other hand I'll let anyone into the slow lane because they might need to get off, unless of course they are just being a weaving fucker). Get in the fast lane when there is a space for you so that you don't slow EVERYONE down. If you ever drive down the cut over the second narrows what happens is people like me try to drive in the fast lane from way back so that we can get through all that traffic at a decent rate, but then people will see the right lane emptying, go into and try to pass around everyone by cutting back into the fast lane right before all the other on ramps before the bridge. There is no reason at all traffic in the fast lane should slow down, it is caused by all this selfish merging into it. If people could just follow a freaking system traffic would flow so much better.
 

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I agree with all u guys - BUT - cars merging from left to right have the "right of way" so if they hit you because u didn't let them in ICBC says u gotta pay up. Now the question is "was the hike in premiums and extra delays to get home worth not letting that sob of a driver in?". Cars merging from right to left do not have right of way so if they hit u, it's their fault.
 

Arrrg

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I wish slow people would move into the slow lane.

Some people argue they are going the speed limit and shouldn't be going faster than them anyways. Doesn't matter, it's not your duty to police the speed.
 

AA_Train

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My pet peeves and I see it everyday

1. Turn signals. use them, that's what tey're there for

2. Peole driving 30km/h in a school zone, outside of the designated time. 7:50am is not 8am, 5:30pm is not 5pm. It's even posted on the sign.

3. Peolpe who turn left in oncoming traffic when you're turning right on a green. It's RIGHT of way jackasses :mad:

Bc drivers asa group are atrocious. When I was in Montreal, where everybody drives 70 or 80Km/h in the city, is a safer environment than in vancouver. Why?? Because people pay attention in traffic and there's more of a concensus on the formal and informal rules. Most of the time, I'd rather walk.
 

Arrrg

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Bullshit man. These guys take the same route every day then ride the lane till it ends then push over. This isn't about merging etiquette it's about them pushing to the front and then you letting them in.
So people are supposed to stop using an open lane a mile before it ends? No wonder traffic is so screwed up.


When I was in Montreal, where everybody drives 70 or 80Km/h in the city, is a safer environment than in vancouver. Why?? Because people pay attention in traffic and there's more of a concensus on the formal and informal rules. Most of the time, I'd rather walk.
I love Montreal traffic. Sure it may be crazy but at least everyone is aware and has good common sense AND you know what everyone is going to do. Unlike Vancouver, it's always a huge guessing game trying to predict what that idiot is going to do.
 

treveller

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It isn't right to pass all the others then cut in but it is also a waste to leave a lane empty for all that distance.

I have tried driving to the end of the empty lane then waiting for my place in the overall traffic to catch up to me before I cut in. Usually someone invites me into the line before my proper spot arrives.
 

bcneil

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I agree with all u guys - BUT - cars merging from left to right have the "right of way" so if they hit you because u didn't let them in ICBC says u gotta pay up. Now the question is "was the hike in premiums and extra delays to get home worth not letting that sob of a driver in?". Cars merging from right to left do not have right of way so if they hit u, it's their fault.
Its amazing how many people don't know this :p
 

wilde

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I agree with all u guys - BUT - cars merging from left to right have the "right of way" so if they hit you because u didn't let them in ICBC says u gotta pay up. Now the question is "was the hike in premiums and extra delays to get home worth not letting that sob of a driver in?". Cars merging from right to left do not have right of way so if they hit u, it's their fault.
Thanks for that bit of info, I had a vague idea of this. But what if the car in the center lane is slightly ahead and the ass hole on the curb lane is forcing the issue. I think this situation is more common.

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mimi

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When the Mary Hill bypass merged from two lanes to one on the way to Coquitlam. That was always a cat fight...it is the only place I am ruthless; when a proper merge is taking place and some asshole pulls right up to the bumper of the car in front. I just push in anyway..fuck em..

I hate merging onto a freeway behind some old guy in a baseball cap that thinks he can do it at 60k.

As for the clear lane in the curb where the fast and mighty try to pass, that is just arrogance...if a clear lane is too good to pass up we should all be in it, and then try to sort it out at the intersection...not!
 

geeksagurla

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Of course, what can one expect in a city populated with a bunch of slackjaws from Prairie Oyster, Sask ?

Guess what? I'm from Regina! lol
I just couldn't shut my mouth on this one. I'm the person that lets anyone in when they are in the situation talked about, especially the aggressive ones. I figure I'm saving at least one person from losing their mind over an easy enough situation to control. I'm laid back for a reason...I like my day to continue on in that situation.
Yes to driving in a larger metropolitan area. I'm also from Richmond, BC. I've only moved to Regina since January of this year. I've dealt with a numerous amount of aggressive/impatient drivers along the way.
The best stand is NONE. Let them by, you'll likely pass them at the turnoff they want anyhow. There are bigger things to get worked up over, the dingalings on the road will never play a big part in your life.
Unless it's a cock fight, why bother??
Truly?!~
from a little slackjaw in PO Sask.
 

Arrrg

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Not a mile before, but certainly before they reach the end of the lane and PUSH over. The problem is Calgarian drivers are just too polite and let people in THEN accept the wave they get.
Actually thought about it some more... Pushing over is not cool, but those on the curb lane, it is my opinion that it is their responsibility to be smart enough to space/pace themselves so they can get in when needed. However if they don't have the foresight to get in at a reasonable point, then they should sit there with their left flasher on until the traffic clears or someone is really kind :)
 

Rammstein69

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Of course, what can one expect in a city populated with a bunch of slackjaws from Prairie Oyster, Sask ?

Guess what? I'm from Regina! lol
I just couldn't shut my mouth on this one. I'm the person that lets anyone in when they are in the situation talked about, especially the aggressive ones. I figure I'm saving at least one person from losing their mind over an easy enough situation to control. I'm laid back for a reason...I like my day to continue on in that situation.
Yes to driving in a larger metropolitan area. I'm also from Richmond, BC. I've only moved to Regina since January of this year. I've dealt with a numerous amount of aggressive/impatient drivers along the way.
The best stand is NONE. Let them by, you'll likely pass them at the turnoff they want anyhow. There are bigger things to get worked up over, the dingalings on the road will never play a big part in your life.
Unless it's a cock fight, why bother??
Truly?!~
from a little slackjaw in PO Sask.

Have fun driving for the helpless mergers in S'toon. Circle Drive seems to terrify them. :rolleyes:
 

jabelar

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In Vancouver driving, the determination of whether a merging driver is an a$$hole depends on their speed and implied intention. If they move just a bit faster than the slower lane and seem to be making an attempt to find a way in, then there is no ill will from those in the slower lane even if they ultimately pass several vehicles. If they race quickly to the end, passing obvious merge opportunities, then people will get mad at them. Unfortunately, people still let them in. But at least they're angry about it -- they'll probably kick their cat when they get home or something. :p And no honking occurs no matter how rude the cut-in is.
 

smissy

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You don't own the street, you don't set your own rule

Driving vs reality life. To me they are very similar. You take every opportunity to get ahead in reality life. If there is opportunity you see fit, you take it as long as it is not against the law. Is it illegal to drive on the curb lane when there is no parked car? That lane is available for trafic, you don't use it, fine. I will. One day you will need to shift to "My" curb lane in order to make a right turn. Should I let you?

To me the most important thing is have courtesy to other people. As long as you leave enough room, put on your signal, etc, I will treat you nice.
 

ysoenglish

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There is a book out called Traffic by Tom Vanderbilt that is a little bit more informative than opinionated (a refreshing change) and includes a chapter on merging. IF you are interested in efficient flow rates and safety then the optimum strategy is for traffic to use the closing lane until the last moment and then merge co-operatively at sensible speeds. Early merging just makes for longer waits for all. The most damaging drivers in these circumstances are the self-righteous and self-appointed traffic cops who adjust their speed and position to "punish" late mergers. These tactics create more delays than other styles of driving by creating waves of over-accelerating and over-braking, they also cause more accidents.
 

FortunateOne

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In Vancouver driving, the determination of whether a merging driver is an a$$hole depends on their speed and implied intention. If they move just a bit faster than the slower lane and seem to be making an attempt to find a way in, then there is no ill will from those in the slower lane even if they ultimately pass several vehicles. If they race quickly to the end, passing obvious merge opportunities, then people will get mad at them. Unfortunately, people still let them in. But at least they're angry about it -- they'll probably kick their cat when they get home or something. :p And no honking occurs no matter how rude the cut-in is.
This is so true.
 
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