DONT be-friend clients
- Thread starter Annalise Lane
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Mistress T,
I agree. If you check my posts on this thread you will see that I have stated:
-this is obviously not a straightforward matter
-this happened as a result of mutual misunderstanding
From the mutual misunderstanding it has sadly spiraled into this.
And… I did agree to send her “something” to “smooth things over” (which was $50 short of full session fee). This was despite the fact that, as I have said, I felt like I had been set up. AL agreed to “call things a day” and then immediately came on here to make her posts.
But basically, what I want to say is…. yes… absolutely…. it’s not B&W. These things never are.
tamp
Funny Aeiyah. I was gonna guess you would be the poor soul victim!
But I can't tell who it's not!Here we go! The drama we've all been hoping for.Funny Aeiyah. I was gonna guess you would be the poor soul victim!
For those out of the loop, I'll bring you up to speed:
One of my biggest fans turned into one of my biggest non-fans instantly the other day. I wish I had some kind of juicy tale as to how this happened but I don't. In one private message to me he was super nice, in the next a few minutes later he was super rude. And just like that I now have someone who wil take any opprtunity to say something rude to me on this board. I'm on the edge of my 'seat' to read what he'll write next.
The only thing I can think that may have prompted it was a post about me forcing a client to orally please me. I had refused this with clients previously and perhaps someone had their feelings hurt over that? Your guess is as good as mine, but one thing is fairly certain: the mud is about to fly.
Get your popcorn.
The way you worded it was - "I had to pay for the restaurant, and take a taxi home, so that covers the 50 of the 200" This comment pissed me off even more and that is when I walked from you. I picked you up, 40$, I spent til 4/5am talking about the kinky world we play in with you, 250/hr. YOU add that and than you can take off your taxi and restaurant bill .. Jack ass !! See that comment alone makes me angry !! All I thought and expected was my 250 donation - NOTHING more and NOTHING less. But you grind salt into an open wound by saying "but I paid for this" - lol how pathetic is that !!!
I didn't set you up to pay ... YOU KNOW full well I'm a Pro, and KNEW of course there must be something she's expecting. BUT YOU took advantage of a good situation and MY KINDNESS and ran with it for YOUR benefit. PLEASE ... like you didn't know - you call it naive I call it compete and utter stupidity that YOU think so highly of yourself to think play would be free. PLEASE !!
I didn't post this whole thing to have people on 'my side' - believe me I know better than that. Only Ms.T commands that kind of respect, I am a mere mortal within these realms.
I do NOT regret posting this and I will NOT take it back, nor will I apologize for bring it forward with tampdown's name attached.
This very well might be a lesson for others to learn from - DO NOT start ANYThing with a gentleman if things are NOT laid out before hand, even If you think their clear as spring water. It's obvious nothing is clear and people use and abuse people everyday.
tampdown has a budget to play with, I know that - everyone who's come in contact with him knows that. Some how in my pea head I thought he knew and understood that because I was feeling up to playing, there would have been compensation - MY mistake !
So to make things alllll bbbeeettteeeerrrr for everyone I'll take FULL fucking blame and move on ... but tampdown YOU are now marked for others to know to be clear in their dealings with YOU.
Annalise,
The way I actually worded it was: "I was thinking of sending $200... given.... the nature of the misunderstanding.... and the cost of taxi plus the restaurant costs." It was a case of all things considered. I know you were feeling hurt, but so was I.
I did not rip you off. There was no prior agreement. I did not know that there was something you were expecting. I have called this a misunderstanding and that's still what I believe it to be, but it also "felt" like that I had been "led into some sort of trap".
As I said in my first post:
The lesson...
NOT – don’t become friends with clients
RATHER – if you are going to become friends with a client be sure to communicate before any session/play activity what your rate is and make sure the friend/client is in agreement before the session starts.
tampdown
I feel the same way.
The lesson i learned is dont do work for an SP if they promiss to pay you with a "free" session. I have been holding off on this for some time but it always bugged me. I did some work for Annalise and she never paid me for my hard work. I was itchy for days because of all the insulation I installed. Karma perhaps. A deal is a deal. As a result I have not seen her and have no plans on it, however if she came through I am sure I would have made at least a return trip or two.
The lesson i learned is dont do work for an SP if they promiss to pay you with a "free" session. I have been holding off on this for some time but it always bugged me. I did some work for Annalise and she never paid me for my hard work. I was itchy for days because of all the insulation I installed. Karma perhaps. A deal is a deal. As a result I have not seen her and have no plans on it, however if she came through I am sure I would have made at least a return trip or two.
Oh please - I gave you a time limit to collect - 2 months I believe - and you contacted me 6 months after wanting your free session.
there was no limit.
It was the end of December when I helped you out. You said I had to wait until January, not that the payment was to be collected in January. And I contacted you at the end of April. I agree it was longer then I would have liked to wait. We can argue over the details, however we agree on one thing.
I did some work for you and you never paid me for it.
You then had the gall to ask me if I still wanted to see you but pay the full price once I called to seek payment. Not professional. We had an agreement and you forfieted it. Plain and simple..... No sympathy from me.
It was the end of December when I helped you out. You said I had to wait until January, not that the payment was to be collected in January. And I contacted you at the end of April. I agree it was longer then I would have liked to wait. We can argue over the details, however we agree on one thing.
I did some work for you and you never paid me for it.
You then had the gall to ask me if I still wanted to see you but pay the full price once I called to seek payment. Not professional. We had an agreement and you forfieted it. Plain and simple..... No sympathy from me.
MY mistake !
So to make things alllll bbbeeettteeeerrrr for everyone I'll take FULL fucking blame and move on ... but tampdown YOU are now marked for others to know to be clear in their dealings with YOU.[/QUOTE]
You're right, your mistake and you have nobody but youself to blame, but no matter you'd like to argue otherwise. As to Tampdown being "marked" I'd say it was YOU that's been marked, as somebody to avoid.
So to make things alllll bbbeeettteeeerrrr for everyone I'll take FULL fucking blame and move on ... but tampdown YOU are now marked for others to know to be clear in their dealings with YOU.[/QUOTE]
You're right, your mistake and you have nobody but youself to blame, but no matter you'd like to argue otherwise. As to Tampdown being "marked" I'd say it was YOU that's been marked, as somebody to avoid.
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I gave you a time limit plain and simple - you didn't collect - so I continued on - besides the square girls in the place I rented had me out in 2 weeks from the sex I was having. If you had contacted me in the time limit I gave you I would have covered our agreement. Okay 4 months - but that's still wayyy longer than we argree'd on, and you admit that.
I pm'd you once a week for about a month asking if you where going to collect and YOU didn't respond. So I stopped pm'ing you - then out of the blue you want your freebie.
BTW folks this is a few months shy of 2 YEARS ago when I had the little place on the south side. You could have easily complained in public long before now. But you've now decided to jump on the Annalise is a bad person thread, and Karma is a bitch - well my dear ... YOU are right and I am good with the world of KARMA - but hey you would know that now would YOU.
Oh and I still have that latter - which you also never responded to picking up.
OMG - you are lieing and YOU know it - OMG
wait a minute if I'm so bad why did you contact me a few months back wanting to buy a pair of my panties for when you where up in Camp ? ~interesting~
wait a minute if I'm so bad why did you contact me a few months back wanting to buy a pair of my panties for when you where up in Camp ? ~interesting~
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Desperate times call for desperate measures.
it is official. you can't be trusted with the details of your clients. I am not saying you are a bad person. I thought you were really nice and beautiful even after a hard days work, and I would have really enjoyed my session with you.
It was not a "freebie", it was something I earned fair and square. I think it is sad and I am offended that you think your time is more valuable then mine. The fact still remains that I worked for you for an entire afternoon on an agreement of a payment of your time.
How about this for a deal. You give me a session and I will repay you in cash next month?? So you can come collect your "free" cash then??
Isnt it an unwritten rule that you don't spew deatils about your cleints all over the place?? I feel for your past clients as they can't trust you anymore. Also headsup to future ones as well.
it is official. you can't be trusted with the details of your clients. I am not saying you are a bad person. I thought you were really nice and beautiful even after a hard days work, and I would have really enjoyed my session with you.
It was not a "freebie", it was something I earned fair and square. I think it is sad and I am offended that you think your time is more valuable then mine. The fact still remains that I worked for you for an entire afternoon on an agreement of a payment of your time.
How about this for a deal. You give me a session and I will repay you in cash next month?? So you can come collect your "free" cash then??
Isnt it an unwritten rule that you don't spew deatils about your cleints all over the place?? I feel for your past clients as they can't trust you anymore. Also headsup to future ones as well.
Agreement
I would have to agree with mac here. He did work, of which the payment was supposed to be a session down the road. 4 months down the line is not a lot of time considering that gift cards from major chains had a 2 year expiration, and I believe that the government recently stepped in and told the department stores that they could not put time limits on gift cards as it is money they are taking.... This is a case of the same things. AL took services from mac and in return was supposed to reciprocate services. Looks like an open/shut case to me.
DK
I would have to agree with mac here. He did work, of which the payment was supposed to be a session down the road. 4 months down the line is not a lot of time considering that gift cards from major chains had a 2 year expiration, and I believe that the government recently stepped in and told the department stores that they could not put time limits on gift cards as it is money they are taking.... This is a case of the same things. AL took services from mac and in return was supposed to reciprocate services. Looks like an open/shut case to me.
DK
Hmmmmmm
I'm going to reserve comment on this one for a bit,,but I have to admit I'm dissapointed in what I'm reading,,,,,from both of you Mac & Anna
I'm going to reserve comment on this one for a bit,,but I have to admit I'm dissapointed in what I'm reading,,,,,from both of you Mac & Anna
