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Do you think at least 99% of sp"s and pooners have gotten a STD since working/pooning

kman86

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Do you think at least 99% of sp"s and pooners have gotten a STD since working/pooning

Especially the girls and pooners that go for bbbj etc. I always think that most sp's that provide uncovered daty/ bbbj have herpes like a vast majority of them or will eventually get it??? What are your thoughts on this?? I'm not trying to be mean or anything that's just how I think.
 

Ms. Yoko Anna

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That's why you don't want to do bbbj.
I tend to turn down clients who tried to negotiate on bbbj as I can't help thinking he gets bbbj from other SPs who offer bbbj to other clients who get bbbj from other SPs who offer ....... And the cycle goes on and on in my head, and can't focus.

It is personal preference, I suppose.
If the thought of risk bothers you, why don't you ask the question to Health Nurse?
 

violetblake

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Most studies actually say that the general population has far higher amounts of STDs than SPs and pooners, and I believe it. It's ridiculous how little 'normal' people use condoms, whereas even if an SP offers a bbbj, she's still going to at least use a condom for sex, then there are all the SPs who do cbjs. So I'd say it'd be closer to 1% of SPs and pooners who have STDs!
 

ThisEndUp

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Especially the girls and pooners that go for bbbj etc. I always think that most sp's that provide uncovered daty/ bbbj have herpes like a vast majority of them or will eventually get it??? What are your thoughts on this?? I'm not trying to be mean or anything that's just how I think.
What are you trying to start, what's this 99% mis information from

Been pooning for years, NOTHING

As others have said, you have a bigger risk from your 2am bar skank. Their living doesn't tie into their health condition
 

Alix Turner

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well... heres the thing

a lot of people just can't accept it, but the odds are... if you are promiscuous you are likely a carrier of herpes, condoms are important.. but most people are exposed to herpes 1 as children. Adults don't think much of picking up and kissing a child when they have a cold sore if the child fell and starts crying. Carriers that don't ever break out have a very slight chance of passing it on.. but you have to wonder, with the incubation period herpes can have and its not necessarily obvious breakouts when it is only mild, we may find out later on, that carriers actually do transmit the virus frequently.

this site doesn't look overly official but the stats are similar to those I have seen elsewhere, even if it is approximate.
 

laurel love

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Consider that 80% of the general population carries anti-bodies toward the various herpes varieties, meaning 80% of the population has been exposed to these viruses.

Seems silly to focus on sps and pooners

College is the greatest vector of diseases known to human kind...especially human papilloma virs
 

treveller

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No, I don't think 99% of players have contracted something.

80% of the general population has herpes antibodies? I understood it was closer to 60%, with two thirds of that being type 1 and one third being type 2. I also understand having the antibodies means you carry the virus.

The BC CDC seems to accept herpes infection as an acceptable condition that need not be dealt with. The infection is not reportable.

It can be a concern for pregnant women or during child birth and that is where the stats come from.

It would be interesting to know if SPs or clients have a higher than normal incidence of infection but I doubt we will ever have that info and I suspect it wouldn't be useful info in any case.
 

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Do you think at least 99% of sp"s and pooners have gotten a STD since working/pooning
No, that's too much. Consider that many are newbies who would have a very low percentage of infections. Then there are people like myself who are high volume pooners and go years w/o getting anything.

Although recently i picked up a minor STI, my first ever, on a 5.5 month trip to Thailand, where i was often recieving BBBJs and BBFS. BTW i am happy i got chlamydia since it gave me the opportunity to try a drug that i was wanting to test to see if it would help with another issue. The disease itself was nothing, like having an itch for 5 seconds and then it's gone forever. I think many pooners or SPs who have had a STI infection would also come in this category of STIs that are next to "nothing" and at worst a minor inconvenience.

Especially the girls and pooners that go for bbbj etc. I always think that most sp's that provide uncovered daty/ bbbj have herpes like a vast majority of them or will eventually get it??? What are your thoughts on this?? I'm not trying to be mean or anything that's just how I think.
I'd be far more concerned about condom sex than BBBJs.

The following article says the condom "rate of breakage is between 0.4% and 2.3%, while the rate of slippage is between 0.6% and 1.3%.[53] Even if no breakage or slippage is observed, 1–2% of women will test positive for semen residue after intercourse with a condom.[62][63]".

"...One study found that semen exposure from a broken condom was about half that of unprotected intercourse; semen exposure from a slipped condom was about one-fifth that of unprotected intercourse.[67]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condom#Causes_of_failure

So if a SP used condoms correctly 100% of the time, had 2 in 200 [1%] break, on average her exposure to semen would be the same as having had one session of bareback sex? Yikes! And it gets much worse, since in the real world people are not flawless, so often fail to use their condoms perfectly.

So many people who use condoms every time for sex are having bareback sex, even if unintentially.

"According to a 2000 report by the National Institutes of Health (NIH)...consistent use of latex condoms reduces the risk of HIV/AIDS transmission by approximately 85% relative to risk when unprotected, putting the seroconversion rate (infection rate) at 0.9 per 100 person-years with condom, down from 6.7 per 100 person-years.[52] Analysis published in 2007 from the University of Texas Medical Branch [53] and the World Health Organization[54] found similar risk reductions of 80–95%."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condom#In_preventing_STDs

"Hand out all the condoms you want, make sure they are used, and there will still be an epidemic of STDs and unplanned pregnancy. I'm old enough to recall when the pill came out. I was just a child, but I remember the stir. Reliable birth control, for the 1st time!! Condoms have been around for centuries, in one form or another. They have never been reliable...a user might have an 85% protection rate against HIV, or pregnancy. In the real world, where the users are drunk, or stoned, it's dark, and he is rushing...are you getting the picture?"
 

the old maxx50

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What still boggles my mind is that many SP's have BBFS with their boyfriends and many of their boy friends are having sex with other girls ... It seems to be the perks of being the SO But I think it makes it pretty unsafe for the SP

When it come to safe sex no who you are sleeping with , what there sex habits are .. and make sure every one you have sex with have STD test .. the more risk they take the more often the tests
 

kman86

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thanks for that information, i never really thought of the condoms leaking slipping for sp's etc. so even the safe sp's are at risk too a higher degree than i thought...
 

Flanders

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Wow. Happy you got chlamydia. Congratulations. I can't imagine the party you'll throw when you finally get HIV.

Did you let the ladyboys creampie your ass when you were BBFS'ing your way through Thailand?
BTW i am happy i got chlamydia since it gave me the opportunity to try a drug that i was wanting to test to see if it would help with another issue. The disease itself was nothing, like having an itch for 5 seconds and then it's gone forever.
 

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Especially the girls and pooners that go for bbbj etc. I always think that most sp's that provide uncovered daty/ bbbj have herpes like a vast majority of them or will eventually get it??? What are your thoughts on this?? I'm not trying to be mean or anything that's just how I think.
99%? no, nowhere even close to that. this entire thread is a weak attempt to make trouble. kman, have you ever even visited an sp to see what happens?

i've been seeing sp's for 20 years now, and only see sp's that offer bbbj's. i have never caught anything, and to my knowledge, none of those sp's have ever caught anything. all of my personal pooner acquaintances will agree that they have had the same experience as i
 

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According to wikipedia HIV infection rate in Canada: "in this region is 0.7% with over 1 million people currently infected with HIV". So approximately 1 in every 143rd person.

If an SP is enforcing condom usage then according to your stats she has a 1/100 * 1/143 or 1 in 14300 or 0.00007% chance she could possibly be exposed to HIV infected semen from a new client. If you then apply the uptake probability you are now getting into ridiculously small numbers here as to be as risk-less as you can get.

Take out the condom and its back to 1 in 143. I think we can agree one scenario is entails more risk taking than the other.
Of course if you start to gain trust as a client/sp and can rely on the fact that testing is going on as part of that trust then, well the risk goes down even further no?


I could probably try to work out some more "conclusions" with some numbers I can pull out my ass too but I see we are well covered on that front, so I'll get on with something more constructive; Perhaps sun gazing.
Burning your retinas would be a lot less painful than trying to bash some sense into him. Nice try though.
 

the old maxx50

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The math does not add up 1 million with HIV in Canada would mean 1 in 34 people have HIV.. :fear::confused::eek:

That is not the case ! Have you got some real stats ?
 
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