That's a great question, Little Turtle. I suspect that most of us tell only a select few friends, maybe even 'some' family members.
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It's too bad women have to feel so oppressed by the stigma that society places on us. I really don't think Shame is a natural emotion. Think about it, it's not something we're born with. Babies will sit in a crowded room covered in poop and food and not care, but babies know how to laugh and cry and be happy and sad because these are natural emotions. Kids don't feel shame until someone tells them "Shame on you!" Or "You should be ashamed of yourself!"Shame is something invented by society and used to control people. I just refuse to welcome shame or shamers of any kind into my life. I am completely shameless, just like Adam and Eve. It's how we were meant to be... Naked, happy and free!
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Men like to brag about seduction... conquest etc. It's the difference between climbing a mountain or hiring a helicopter to drop you off at the top. The view from the summit is just as grand but somehow it's not the same, not going to impress people.
Now... having said that - I enthusiastically participate in this little "hobby" and I have had SO MUCH JOY doing it... seriously. I love sex and I've connected with some absolutely fantastic women and had a great time and really connected and known that it was mutually enjoyable. It's so amazing to be able to do that. So I do feel that there are some things I've experienced that are worth sharing or that if other guys could avail themselves it would blow their mind. But... it's a bit of a no-win because a lot of guys will be jealous and not want to hear about it. They're married, in a live-in situation etc. and so they feel a little trapped. They don't really want to hear about how some hot little 22 year old was really enjoying an extended 69 with me and that she came really hard etc...
The prevailing view in society is that you are a loser if you are paying for it... certainly that's what most women will think and the maligning and marginalization of professional sex work comes form the attitude of SOME men and almost ALL women. See, now I'm getting into Sociology here (and probably digging a hole for myself).
The romantic, monogamous view of sex is the dominant one in our culture and people don't want to be challenged/upset by jokers like me running around boning the hottest babes imaginable because I have the audacity and disregard of social norms to do so.
So no... I keep it to myself but sex and love are two different things and I'm glad I made the choice to disregard what social norms dictate because social norms have failed to make me happy over the years. What does make me happy? Sex with beautiful uninhibited sexual women! A lot of guys can't lose the shame and it comes down to the hypocrisy of society. You only live once!
Thanks for being so candid! I mentioned this earlier, but civilian women are VERY resentful, jealous and intimidated by pros when it comes to their men. That's why they pressure men to imply that they frown upon SP's even though clearly we're the GREATEST EVER... because they wield their power over you... men have to play by the civilian women's rules (or at least pretend to) if he wants to have a "normal" life. Slut Shaming at it's finest! *SMDH*
But we know you love us, and we don't blame you for having to play their game :eyebrows:
But we know you love us, and we don't blame you for having to play their game :eyebrows:
Men like to brag about seduction... conquest etc. It's the difference between climbing a mountain or hiring a helicopter to drop you off at the top. The view from the summit is just as grand but somehow it's not the same, not going to impress people.
Now... having said that - I enthusiastically participate in this little "hobby" and I have had SO MUCH JOY doing it... seriously. I love sex and I've connected with some absolutely fantastic women and had a great time and really connected and known that it was mutually enjoyable. It's so amazing to be able to do that. So I do feel that there are some things I've experienced that are worth sharing or that if other guys could avail themselves it would blow their mind. But... it's a bit of a no-win because a lot of guys will be jealous and not want to hear about it. They're married, in a live-in situation etc. and so they feel a little trapped. They don't really want to hear about how some hot little 22 year old was really enjoying an extended 69 with me and that she came really hard etc...
The prevailing view in society is that you are a loser if you are paying for it... certainly that's what most women will think and the maligning and marginalization of professional sex work comes form the attitude of SOME men and almost ALL women. See, now I'm getting into Sociology here (and probably digging a hole for myself).
The romantic, monogamous view of sex is the dominant one in our culture and people don't want to be challenged/upset by jokers like me running around boning the hottest babes imaginable because I have the audacity and disregard of social norms to do so.
So no... I keep it to myself but sex and love are two different things and I'm glad I made the choice to disregard what social norms dictate because social norms have failed to make me happy over the years. What does make me happy? Sex with beautiful uninhibited sexual women! A lot of guys can't lose the shame and it comes down to the hypocrisy of society. You only live once!
Not to go off topic but just in response to some of the latest posts about societal norms. It really pisses me off how the mentality of slut shaming is so widespread and brainwashed...most of the people I grew up with (especially MORESO the GUYS! Now I think they are just secretly gay maybe...who knows) they have this intense hatred towards women who are very sexually liberal and basically fuck like a man does, different partners, very frequently etc. They have this idea that these women are dirty/smelly, disease ridden, filthy, loose, immoral, ugly, degrading, etc and say the nastiest comments about it. I was so shocked and surprised to find a community like this in the industry, and that most clients actually appreciate the beauty and respect most SP's, and find them desirable. It was a total culture shock to me! I'm so relieved and thankful for it, seems much more human to me and I love it. Could be maturity, or culture...not sure. I do see a hint of that from some members around here and they've probably met the same fate I have with all the brainwashing. I just never imagined that men would still find us sex addicts so desirable and so beautiful & sexy/delicious etc, even after all the so called "damage" or "dicks have been inside" etc. LOL, isn't that sad, what I've been exposed to I've been traumatized
I've been traumatizedNot a chance, as a married man I walk a fine line whenever I decide to 'hobby' i'm pretty sure my wife would not approve. I think one of my closest friends is also a member here, although I could never ask him, we converse and sometimes he says things that I think could have only come from here...
I haven't actually been out for quite some time, and even though I am always looking, contemplating, planning, I may never partake again. This hobby has become a search for something that I don't think is out there, I had it with a few SP's and got hooked, but it is now gone.
On that note I have to say how much I miss Samantha and Paige, they were some incredibly fun ladies!
I haven't actually been out for quite some time, and even though I am always looking, contemplating, planning, I may never partake again. This hobby has become a search for something that I don't think is out there, I had it with a few SP's and got hooked, but it is now gone.
On that note I have to say how much I miss Samantha and Paige, they were some incredibly fun ladies!
That is horrible. What kind of people do you hang out with and where did you grow up?!? MY GOD.
I've never heard anything as ignorant as what you're describing at all...
I've never heard anything as ignorant as what you're describing at all...
Not to go off topic but just in response to some of the latest posts about societal norms. It really pisses me off how the mentality of slut shaming is so widespread and brainwashed...most of the people I grew up with (especially MORESO the GUYS! Now I think they are just secretly gay maybe...who knows) they have this intense hatred towards women who are very sexually liberal and basically fuck like a man does, different partners, very frequently etc. They have this idea that these women are dirty/smelly, disease ridden, filthy, loose, immoral, ugly, degrading, etc and say the nastiest comments about it. I was so shocked and surprised to find a community like this in the industry, and that most clients actually appreciate the beauty and respect most SP's, and find them desirable. It was a total culture shock to me! I'm so relieved and thankful for it, seems much more human to me and I love it. Could be maturity, or culture...not sure. I do see a hint of that from some members around here and they've probably met the same fate I have with all the brainwashing. I just never imagined that men would still find us sex addicts so desirable and so beautiful & sexy/delicious etc, even after all the so called "damage" or "dicks have been inside" etc. LOL, isn't that sad, what I've been exposed to
What is it that you find your experiences to be lacking, if you don't mind me asking?
surrey, indo-canadians lol ...not all of them are like that and its not only that race but its most of the time (definitely not white guys, the first guys who went down on me were white or half white), not the guys I see, just the ones I grew up with (even the ones I fucked around with in high school, they were still fucking me but still saying that shit! WEIRD) . I'm not sure if its immaturity or if its the culture, I have no idea, it is sure fucked up and sad!
Your comment on immaturity and culture is probably very accurate.
I'm a man who employs a lot of real Cowboys to handle my stock. From spring to the fall gather I can have up to 12 working for me.
There is always 2 or 3 young guys thrown in the mix, and some from towns or cities.
Around the fire the subject of women almost always comes up. We'll talk about girlfriends, wives , and SP....I've been witness to many an old Cowboy give warning to the coarse opinions put forward by the younger generation of so called" cowboys ".
If the warning isn't listened too, the greenhorn is kind of excommunicated for awhile, and I'll take him aside, or ride next to him, and explain....As any good employer would do.
If he continues the negative behaviour, we'll get back to the homestead and I'll let him go...Before he gets a "good ole' boy" beating from the rest of the guys.
I'm a man who employs a lot of real Cowboys to handle my stock. From spring to the fall gather I can have up to 12 working for me.
There is always 2 or 3 young guys thrown in the mix, and some from towns or cities.
Around the fire the subject of women almost always comes up. We'll talk about girlfriends, wives , and SP....I've been witness to many an old Cowboy give warning to the coarse opinions put forward by the younger generation of so called" cowboys ".
If the warning isn't listened too, the greenhorn is kind of excommunicated for awhile, and I'll take him aside, or ride next to him, and explain....As any good employer would do.
If he continues the negative behaviour, we'll get back to the homestead and I'll let him go...Before he gets a "good ole' boy" beating from the rest of the guys.
This thread is timely. I find it natural to want to share my exploits with friends, but don't dare with most for reasons described by others.
Tonight I am meeting an old high school friend who has been in his words "imprisoned" by a woman, just because he is brainwashed and doesn't know how to lay out boundaries. He's basically single, loves to fuck, and then falls quickly to a woman's innate ability to capture him and make him pay, for the rest of his life. I am going to bring up what I do as an option for him to consider, if he wants to be a free man. He's fallen for the holier than thou attitude towards many laws that I bend, and he doesn't.
I share my love of this hobby and a few other "sins" with a very few men I know, in whom I have absolute trust in their word that what is said between us, stays between us. One is married, and is self aware, so can suck it up, without resentment. I am sure he enjoys the stories. In his future there will be a time when he too can get back to being a cowboy. It's good to have men like that in my life. I wouldn't be here if a friend hadn't shown me the path.
Tonight I am meeting an old high school friend who has been in his words "imprisoned" by a woman, just because he is brainwashed and doesn't know how to lay out boundaries. He's basically single, loves to fuck, and then falls quickly to a woman's innate ability to capture him and make him pay, for the rest of his life. I am going to bring up what I do as an option for him to consider, if he wants to be a free man. He's fallen for the holier than thou attitude towards many laws that I bend, and he doesn't.
I share my love of this hobby and a few other "sins" with a very few men I know, in whom I have absolute trust in their word that what is said between us, stays between us. One is married, and is self aware, so can suck it up, without resentment. I am sure he enjoys the stories. In his future there will be a time when he too can get back to being a cowboy. It's good to have men like that in my life. I wouldn't be here if a friend hadn't shown me the path.
I can't copy a quote with my touchy satellite system...So i'll have to quote you this way.
"In his future there will be a time when he too can get back to being a cowboy"
Chris Ledoux... "I've had one or two good horses, that I count among my friends, and I've never drawn a breath that wasn't free."
"In his future there will be a time when he too can get back to being a cowboy"
Chris Ledoux... "I've had one or two good horses, that I count among my friends, and I've never drawn a breath that wasn't free."
No..thought of telling my best friend once but didn't just in case he let it slip to someone. Sadly it ok for a guy to pick up a lady at the bar and have a one night stand but seeing an SP for an hour is looked down on. Have somewhat of a goody good rep to most people so pretty sure others would not be happy if they found out.
GRACE
"Don't be ashamed, Ben. We all have the right to make the most of our lives. l'm sure that those ladies in those houses they bring a lot of joy to a lot of men."
Now just need to find a real-life civilian girl who'd react this way after being compared to an SP.
"Don't be ashamed, Ben. We all have the right to make the most of our lives. l'm sure that those ladies in those houses they bring a lot of joy to a lot of men."
Now just need to find a real-life civilian girl who'd react this way after being compared to an SP.
I only talk about this stuff with some of the more non-judgemental people I know. People in general are just judgemental and critical. They'll rip into your choices, even if you make better choices than they do.
