Do you know how to swim? Is knowing how to swim not a given?

tokugawa

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Every summer we always hear about news stories where people drown because they don't know how to swim. Now these people come from all walks of life. They could either be locals or from out of province/country. They can also range from young to old. Though I do find it strange why these people would hang around water if they don't know how to swim.

In any case, I have difficulties understanding how an average individual especially a young adult in modern day Canada does not know how to swim? As a kid I took swimming lessons when I was 6 and I was also given swimming lessons when I was in High School. I am no Olympic caliber swimmer but I also know my limitations.

Question! Is it wrong to assume that knowing how to swim is a given for most people? I just find it so hard to believe that something as basic as swimming is not a given in our modern western first world society
 

Elmore

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I think you already know the answer to your question even if you find it hard to believe.
 

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Swimming is a life skill, just as is walking and riding a bike. Walking and being able to feed yourself are very basic skills that life would be extremely difficult without, even impossible without someone helping you. The next level of skills would include riding a bike, swimming and masturbation (?), without which you can get through life but without which you may face some severe challenges, even grave danger (e.g., drowning, blue balls).
 
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Question! Is it wrong to assume that knowing how to swim is a given for most people? I just find it so hard to believe that something as basic as swimming is not a given in our modern western first world society
Simply put yes it is wrong to assume most people know how to swim... I have had several adult friends that did not know how. Most grew up in places that didn't have a lot of access to water. Some just had phobias or slightly traumatic experiences as a kid.

I think everyone should know how to swim, but I also think everyone should be able to drive a standard transmission car... neither is the case.
 

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A few posts down is a very sad story about new bride drowning. I removed my silly post here, as it does not seem appropriate any longer.
 
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many folks in our society come from countries where their oceans are infested with sharks and their lakes with pollution, so although they may go to the beach and wade, they never go in far enough to have to learn how to swim

when the adults don't swim, the kids don't absorb the swimming culture from them
 

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many folks in our society come from countries where their oceans are infested with sharks and their lakes with pollution, so although they may go to the beach and wade, they never go in far enough to have to learn how to swim

when the adults don't swim, the kids don't absorb the swimming culture from them
so swimming pools are b.s., eh? ;) haha!
 

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I know how to swim all four styles, people. But I'd prefer the pool than the beach. :cool:

And by the way, nothing is given! You have to learn somehow. :nod: :pound:
 

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If I was into water sports and not able to swim it would freak me out! At least have the ability to swim backwards should be taught to everyone, its the easiest method of staying alive in the water. I learned rather late at 14 to swim.
 

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Yap i took swimming lessons at 12 .. But I never was a strong swimmer , and could never do a dive right .. The best i can do is the dead mans float when I run out of energy and strength ,,

I was in a pool a 5 months ago and tried swimming .. i have not swam for over 40 yrs .. and it show .. i was just to out of shape to go very far at all , only about 40/50 ft and had to stop ,and would not go over my head .. I never did like deep water ,, I still knew how to do the back stroke and free style . and the dead mans float

If i get in a small boat , kayak or canoe I have a life jacket on .. I know i would not survive for long with out it.

To be a go swimmer you have to be in good shape and know your limits

That girl that recently swam across Lake Ontario was a great swimmer .. How my here could even swim 500 m. let alone 500 ft
 

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As a former boat owner I used to ask every person that came on board whether they knew how to swim or not and how good they were, regardless of the presence of life jackets etc. Canada being an immigrant hub that it is (I myself am one) its unreasonable to assume that everyone knows how to swim. It is no different than assuming that anyone who's grown up here knows how to ski or snowboard.
 

tokugawa

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I guess times have changed. As a kid I remember swimming, biking, playing sports, etc. were the kind of activities I would do with other kids. Maybe video games and the internet are the activities that most kids of today would rather do.

On a semi-related topic. 'Quebec bride drowns in her wedding gown during Trash the Dress photo shoot'. People need to respect water more.


Maria Pantazopoulos 30, was married just under three months ago.

MONTREAL — Maria Pantazopoulos had a lot to be happy about.

The 30-year-old woman had recently bought a house in Laval, started working as a real estate agent with Via Capitale, got married June 9, and went on a honeymoon in the Caribbean.

“She was really, really happy,” said family friend Leeza Pousoulidis.

Pousoulidis said her friend wanted a way to immortalize her dress, and was excited to take pictures with it in Rawdon on Friday afternoon, as part of a growing trend called trash the dress, in which brides pose for pictures in their wedding dresses, often in unconventional settings like in bodies of water.

“She’s a really fun girl, and she just didn’t want her wedding dress sitting in a box in the closet,” Pousoulidis said. “She said ‘I want to have fun with my wedding dress. I want to have great pictures and memories of me in my wedding dress.’”

But that photo shoot proved deadly. As Pantazopoulos waded into the water of the Ouareau River in Rawdon, 75 kilometres northeast of Montreal, her dress filled up and weighed her down, causing her to drown.

“She had her wedding dress on and she said, ‘take some pictures of me while I swim a little bit in the lake,’ she went in and her dress got heavy, I tried everything I could to save her,” photographer Louis Pagakis told CTV News. “I jumped in; I was screaming and yelling; we tried our best.”

On Saturday, Pagakis was too distraught to speak with media, so his girlfriend, Anouk Benzacar, answered questions on his behalf.

“They were shooting a few where the water was shallow, and then she wanted to take a picture floating,” Benzacar said, adding that Pantazopoulos moved out to a deeper part of the river where she could not touch the bottom. “The dress was getting heavy, so (Pagakis) went in to try move her (back to a shallow part of the river).”

She said Pantazopoulos grabbed Pagakis and was pulling him under with her, so it was impossible to bring her back to shore. Pagakis tried several times to rescue her, but eventually, Pantazopoulos ran out of strength and let go.

“When she let go, he freaked,” she said. “He dove to try to find her, but he couldn’t.”

The incident occurred about 2 p.m. Friday. Two police officers arrived on the scene, took off their uniforms and jumped into the water to find her, SQ Sgt. Claude Denis said. Eventually an avid scuba diver from the area, who had heard the news about the accident, arrived with his gear and found the woman’s body about 4:30 p.m.

At Pantazopoulos’s workplace, a colleague said they were “bowled over” by the news.

“She was really well liked by everyone here,” said real estate agent Johanne Grenier. “For us, today is a really sad day.”

Pousoulidis said Pantazopoulos had a dynamic personality.

“She was a strong, tough girl. She was very petite, but she was strong in character and in physical strength as well. She was very happy and caring. She had a big heart.”

She leaves behind her husband, her parents and a brother.

“The family is destroyed,” Pousoulidis said, but added that family members are grateful for the hard work done by the Sûreté du Québec, and first responders in Rawdon.

Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/life...+photo+shoot/7148307/story.html#ixzz24lrrhvoX
This is such a sad story!
 

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a guy who is terrified of the water and can't swim will most likely never drown.

the idoit who can swim a little hand has beer or two for confidence or showing off to his friends is more likely to drown then a non swimmer
 
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