Do Perb members even want honest reviews?

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Noob888

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Because they ARE entirely subjective.
Hah, I've actually read the studies too, and there are quite a few that confirm those findings. It seems your definition of 'attractive' might differ from what was used in those studies.

Nowadays, thanks largely to social proofing including the earth is flat movement gaining momentum, many tend to see all scientific findings as 'subjective,' or anything else for that matter. Whether reviews are positive, negative, or balanced, they will be subjective (bias) to some degree.

Despite the frequent pedantic behaviour on social media platforms which include forums, there's no need to split hairs over it, whether it's a well-written positive review or a poorly written one. It's the reviews that read like ads are the ones that breed skepticism, often leading to accusations of the well known reviewer being a white knight, shill, or simp.

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masterpoonhunter

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Does anyone else notice that the trolls who are making this forum difficult for lots of people tend to be the same 3 or 4 guys, banned over and over who cannot either take the hint or smarten up and learn to get along with others? They denigrate women they see and think anyone who writes a good review is a simp. We have had quite enough of them here.
Almost all of them have been on my ignore list for a long time, but yes when I hit the show ignored content.
 
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funny story I have to tell. One time I was on a weight loss journey, I weighed about 240lbs at the time. I book with a massage provider, she looked much much larger than her photos when I arrived. beforehand I had asked for the bodyslide add on. When we were doing the bodyslide, the massage table broke (we were both okay, its broke slowly). afterwards we examined it and found out the maximum weight capacity of the massage table was 450lbs.

Despite being asian, im not the best at math, but according to my math that makes her around 210lbs. She was listed at 140lbs on the next place she worked website, but now the website no longer lists her weight.

I have seen guys get very mad at others calling her chubb chubb on here!! but 210lbs for a woman her height is very chubb chubb. I actually weigh around 210-220 now, and im fatso .
Sounds like you ran into my wife!! very nice!!!
 
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The truth is that you see the same general dynamics in any hobby related forum: an overall predominace of positive reviews, vocal skepticism of many positive reviews, enough actual shills in the mix to keep many people wondering who is a shill and who isn't, reviewers who are critical are seen as "keeping it real", negative reviews getting pushback from people who are emotionally invested in what is being criticized, negative reviews being seen as inherently credible despite the fact that many people sharing negative reviews have their own agenda, people whose review style is very fluffy and emotive, and others who are more purely utilitarian and mathematical in their approach, with the former group accusing the latter of being cold and anti-human, and the latter accusing the former of being lost in la-la land... and so on and on. I've seen variations of this play out in camera forums, headphone forums, computer forums and other places as well. I'm left to conclude that there is something inherent in human nature at work here and since human nature is as unavoidable as gravity there has to be better ways to navigate communities like this in a constructive way that does't involve constantly complaining and picking fights with people.

As others have said, when someone reviews a provider they are bringing to bear their own personal experiences, wants, needs, personality, preferences, priorioties, tastes, personal history, chemistry with the person in question and many other factors not the least of which is the sort of day both parties are having at the time-- we all have off days, and I have had a few sub-par sessions over the years due to myself having and off day, to no fault of the provider.. Further, no two people necessarily pursue this hobby for the same reasons or enjoy the same things and, taking all this together, the result is that for any one person much of what gets shared here will be unhelpful at best and outright noise or deception at worst.

Despite all that I've found this place invalueable over the years and owe many of my greatest experiences with some pretty amazing women to intel gleaned from these forums. IMHO the best way for someone to get the most out of reviews here is to pay attention to members who post somewhat regularly and who are consistent with their tastes, approach and preferences. Ideally they will be people with whom you share similar ideals and preferences-- but this isn't always the case. There is a prolific fellow in the Victoria forum whose temperament and approach is much different than my own, but nonetheless if he shares a glowing review of a provider I know with a high degree of certainty that she is someone I will want to meet.

At the end of the day the key to making the most of this place is to put the work in and figure out for yourself who to listen to and who to ingore, and this will be different for everyone. And that is fine.
 
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I would like honest reviews. If the girl is 10/10 good, if she 1/10 good as long as it their honest opinion and not them being paid to write it.
Quick question do you peeps see a lot white knight behaviour in this board?
I haven't really come across it much. I found it more common on MERB though. Most negative reviews get a response like "Ah well maybe it was her off day" or "sucks bro".
 

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I really just want to know about the WOT and WOM so I know what to avoid. I personally lean more “white knight” just cuz if you’re getting a BJ and having sex with chicks who are probably out of your league, like what is there really to complain about.

That being said I don’t ever rush into the comments section, I just read it then go about my day.
 
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Hah, I've actually read the studies too, and there are quite a few that confirm those findings. It seems your definition of 'attractive' might differ from what was used in those studies.

Nowadays, thanks largely to social proofing including the earth is flat movement gaining momentum, many tend to see all scientific findings as 'subjective,' or anything else for that matter. Whether reviews are positive, negative, or balanced, they will be subjective (bias) to some degree.

Despite the frequent pedantic behaviour on social media platforms which include forums, there's no need to split hairs over it, whether it's a well-written positive review or a poorly written one. It's the reviews that read like ads are the ones that breed skepticism, often leading to accusations of the well known reviewer being a white knight, shill, or simp.

@bruce.pepper
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I know 50 year old women that have most guys thinking they're 30 because they look 30.
I cant think of a single woman in their 50s who looks even remotely close what a woman in their 30s looks like.

Even someone like JLo, who is an anomaly and an outlier in terms of looking much younger than her age, still looks like a woman in her 40s, not a woman in her 30s.

I'm sorry, but the idea that women in their 50s can easily pass for being in their 30s is an extreme, delusional and unrealistic perspective.

Even providers in their early to mid-30s, who pretend to be in their mid-to-late 20s, are not fooling anyone. We have just grown so accustomed to their age deception that we have come to expect it. Doesn't mean men shouldn't still call it out in their reviews.
 

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I cant think of a single woman in their 50s who looks even remotely close what a woman in their 30s looks like.
Sounds like a "you" problem.

Even someone like JLo, who is an anomaly and an outlier in terms of looking much younger than her age, still looks like a woman in her 40s, not a woman in her 30s.
How many providers are in front of stage lights in front of thousands of people and/or on camera? Zero. JLo didn't look so 40ish in her latest Netflix film by the way. She looked 50 to me so not a great analogy.
Horny, low light, horny, sparkle lights, close quarters and little face time, etc. can and does fool a lot of guys. If you think it's extreme, delusional and unrealistic then you are a better man than most.

I'm sorry, but the idea that women in their 50s can easily pass for being in their 30s is an extreme, delusional and unrealistic perspective.
And yet we have review after review of brothers saying so and so is probably late twenties to mid-thirties when in fact they're between 47 and 53 in some cases.

Congratulations. You know everything;)
 
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Yes, the dogmatic replies from those who apparently know everything there is to know of women. Oh how they miss out by limiting the dynamic range. And how they justify their own views by degrading those who oppose them.

I'm a sample of one as each of all of us are really, but having had the utmost pleasure of having sex with women across the age range, there are definitely those in their 50's that have bods that put a lot in their 20's to shame. Just as there are those in their 20's who could use a significant makeover and maybe more to the point, Go To the Fucking Gym now and then. But if that is the only criteria, that you have to have sex with a women who has the movie looks of (insert your fantasy here) well I guess that leaves a fuck of a lot of great sex for those who have a different criteria.

I rely on those reviews that reflect that. Was it great sex? Hell Yes? I'm in.
 
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Americanboy

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Sounds like a "you" problem.
How is it just a "me problem"?
This forum is filled with men complaining about providers who lie about their ages, do not resemble their photos, and engage in deceptive practices such as false advertising in various ways. Its a waste of time and money.

How many providers are in front of stage lights in front of thousands of people and/or on camera? Zero. JLo didn't look so 40ish in her latest Netflix film by the way. She looked 50 to me so not a great analogy.
Horny, low light, horny, sparkle lights, close quarters and little face time, etc. can and does fool a lot of guys. If you think it's extreme, delusional and unrealistic then you are a better man than most.
Fair enough bro, I'm not exactly a die-hard JLo fan, to be honest. I haven't seen her in any recent movies or anything, and the last photos of her I glanced at could easily be 10+ years old and heavily edited for all I know. So yeah, forget about my Jlo example.
But yeah, you're right, to your point, most providers photos in their ads are way off from reality. They usually look worse in person, often use old photos, and heavily rely on photoshop, flattering lighting, and flattering posed angles to deceive.

And yet we have review after review of brothers saying so and so is probably late twenties to mid-thirties when in fact they're between 47 and 53 in some cases.
I've been around this forum long enough to know that there are some guys who are gullible enough to buy into just about anything, so I'm not surprised if a small group of guys might fall for your claims.
But I bet the vast majority of men here know they aren't between "47 and 53" but looking like they are in their "late twenties to mid-thirties" , especially the men who actually interact with woman in real life, and not strictly via escorts.
How about you name these woman? Would be great advertising for them, unless you are lying :p
 

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I really just want to know about the WOT and WOM so I know what to avoid. I personally lean more “white knight” just cuz if you’re getting a BJ and having sex with chicks who are probably out of your league, like what is there really to complain about.
If you got two SPs with similar appearance levels and rate but one is grouchy, no service, many restrictions, then why would you choose her? Many options available and if anything there might be too many from overseas so business is spread more thin.

I think you need to have some level of standard when competition for your money is high.
 
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But I bet the vast majority of men here know they aren't between "47 and 53" but looking like they are in their "late twenties to mid-thirties" , especially the men who actually interact with woman in real life, and not strictly via escorts.
Because everyone knows that when a man interacts with a woman that he just met at a Starbucks as opposed to an escort he just met thirty minutes prior at the front door of an agency abode, the question "May I slip this into your ass?" should have the same tone and discourse. :sneaky: If you can't figure out what this means, it means comparing daily interaction with women on the street as a qualifier for being able to see through the veil created by any escort one just met in a bedroom is as you said "delusional". Our priceless friends in this industry that make us all feel so good for an hour or so are masters of seduction, which includes illusion. God bless them all and the special people that think it's all real, including how you think you know how old they are in aforementioned dark rooms with playful lighting.

How about you name these woman? Would be great advertising for them, unless you are lying
Right. I'll ruin a woman's ability to draw in business by revealing their real ages for the sake of proving my point, to you and only you no less, in a meaningless discussion on a forum of anonymous men sharing their riveting and Peabody worthy opinions of various participants of our local sex trade. This is exactly the tit for tat BS that I tried to avoid for so long after I signed up here. It is inevitable, unfortunately as like the great sucking sound of jobs leaving the US for Mexico post NAFTA, so is the sound of my exit from this mind numbing diatribe of your opinion. Good day, young Master Americanboy. Tis time to fuck:)
 

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Because everyone knows that when a man interacts with a woman that he just met at a Starbucks as opposed to an escort he just met thirty minutes prior at the front door of an agency abode, the question "May I slip this into your ass?" should have the same tone and discourse. :sneaky: If you can't figure out what this means, it means comparing daily interaction with women on the street as a qualifier for being able to see through the veil created by any escort one just met in a bedroom is as you said "delusional". Our priceless friends in this industry that make us all feel so good for an hour or so are masters of seduction, which includes illusion. God bless them all and the special people that think it's all real, including how you think you know how old they are in aforementioned dark rooms with playful lighting.
Nope, thats not what I meant at all. But since you are running away from the discussion, theres no point in me elaborating.

Right. I'll ruin a woman's ability to draw in business by revealing their real ages for the sake of proving my point, to you and only you no less, in a meaningless discussion on a forum of anonymous men sharing their riveting and Peabody worthy opinions of various participants of our local sex trade. This is exactly the tit for tat BS that I tried to avoid for so long after I signed up here. It is inevitable, unfortunately as like the great sucking sound of jobs leaving the US for Mexico post NAFTA, so is the sound of my exit from this mind numbing diatribe of your opinion. Good day, young Master Americanboy. Tis time to fuck:)
Excuses excuses lol

Anyways, your bombast word salads are a tough read, they dont make much sense. You seem like a very pleasant person to be around, big hit with the ladies no doubt !

Have a good day pissboy :)
 

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Remember some of us may be on the spectrum .

So what reads as anger or confrontation could actually just be us having troubles navigating social interaction. even online.
 
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lol Flat earth. Don't you dare question the scientific literature. Now go get your clot shot and obey the holy church of infallible science. Everybody knows science can prove how good looking you are. :)
Lol. And If you say 1+1=5, I'm going to say you're right despite the facts. :)
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Remember some of us may be on the spectrum .

So what reads as anger or confrontation could actually just be us having troubles navigating social interaction. even online.
Reading the many replies in this thread and across this site, im glad to see im not the only autistic one
 
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