DO NOT call unless I ask you to....

[Redrider2]

Today I had a SP call me because my number was on her call display list. I had called her to make an inquiry but had left no message as I knew my privacy would not be readily available to take a return call. An hour or 90 min later she calls me " hi, its Joan Doe", you called me?" Fortunately I was alone at the time and it was not a BFD, but a few minutes either way would have been unpleasant.The offending SP has somewhat of a profile and is a Perb advertiser. I was shocked at her lack of discretion. This happened to me a month ago with another SP. WTF, ladies, you want my number unblocked but you won't respect my privacy?

So, do not call back unless I leave a message asking you to call and providing details of what times to call.

If you have to troll through your call display cold calling numbers you will cause a problem.

 

[Mr.Rogers]

Today I had a SP call me because my number was on her call display list. I had called her to make an inquiry but had left no message as I knew my privacy would not be readily available to take a return call. An hour or 90 min later she calls me " hi, its Joan Doe", you called me?" Fortunately I was alone at the time and it was not a BFD, but a few minutes either way would have been unpleasant.The offending SP has somewhat of a profile and is a Perb advertiser. I was shocked at her lack of discretion. This happened to me a month ago with another SP. WTF, ladies, you want my number unblocked but you won't respect my privacy?

So, do not call back unless I leave a message asking you to call and providing details of what times to call.

If you have to troll through your call display cold calling numbers you will cause a problem.

Same thing happened to me.

 

[CalgaryJenn]

Today I had a SP call me because my number was on her call display list. I had called her to make an inquiry but had left no message as I knew my privacy would not be readily available to take a return call. An hour or 90 min later she calls me " hi, its Joan Doe", you called me?" Fortunately I was alone at the time and it was not a BFD, but a few minutes either way would have been unpleasant.The offending SP has somewhat of a profile and is a Perb advertiser. I was shocked at her lack of discretion. This happened to me a month ago with another SP. WTF, ladies, you want my number unblocked but you won't respect my privacy?

So, do not call back unless I leave a message asking you to call and providing details of what times to call.

If you have to troll through your call display cold calling numbers you will cause a problem.

Most people who call will leave a message. Even if it is something such as, "Hi this is (insert name here). I was calling to inquire about your availability, but noticed your currently unavailable to take a call. I will try calling you later as I won't be able to answer my phone."
It's a catch 22 really. Some people will call an SP, knowing their number will be displayed, and expect a call back. Others don't expect a call back. If the SP call's back, it works out. Or, in your case, it might have been trouble. On the other hand, if the SP doesn't call back, often, the pooners get upset and complain that, "She doesn't call back." or "Is impossible to book with because she never answers her phone." Just because a message isn't left, it doesn't mean you don't want the SP to call back. I call numbers back if I miss them, and 99% of the time the caller wanted me to call them back and is glad I did.
All you have to do is leave a simple message saying call, don't call, a time to call if you want a call back, or simply say, "I'll call you another time or later on." It saves both parties a lot of headache. You have to remember, in a 30 minute period, and SP can have 1 to 10 calls come in. If they are busy, it's a pain in the ass at times to get the calls back to make the pooners happy. On top of it, if you look at you phone and see 5 missed calls, and there is a message that says, "You can call me back, my number is unblocked for you, so you have it displayed on your phone.", how is the SP to know which of the 5 calls was that particular caller? There are 5 numbers to choose from. That leaves the SP in a situation where there is a pooner wanting a call back, but the SP can't call back because she risks calling 4 wrong numbers.
I wouldn't call it trolling through numbers. I'd call it keeping on top of calls to keep pooners happy. Ten seconds of talking on the phone to leave a message of intention or a request, never killed anybody. A simple message will save both parties a lot of headache.
Just a thought.

 

[Annalise Lane]

I'm with Jenn on this one - there was a time I would NEVER call someone back without an 'okay' Now, its changing a bit, by that I mean... if my phone was in another room and I call the number back with in a few minutes(20 mins max) then it's usually okay, anything longer I dont bother because one their likely just calling numbers in the paper until someone answers or they are not able to take calls.

Leave a msg and let us know what you want us to do.

 

[BigBlue]

What do you do when his SO answers? What if the poor dolt is calling from work? You've just struck terror in the heart of many a pooner.
Guy=Horny=Will Call Back, sooner or later. Wait for it.

 

[curvy_nympho]

I have to say that I prefer someone to leave me a message giving me a time that I can call back or to let me know when I can expect another call.

I will NEVER call a number that is displayed except if it's a regular who has given me permission to call.

On the flip side, I really don't like giving my number out. I try to do as much of my booking via e-mail. I have had people call me at 3am or call me 10 times in a row. That gets a little hard to explain if I am with friends, family or at work or school.

I think respect and discretion has to go both ways. But, in this business, discretion is key!

Bella

 

[CalgaryJenn]

What do you do when his SO answers? What if the poor dolt is calling from work? You've just struck terror in the heart of many a pooner.
Guy=Horny=Will Call Back, sooner or later. Wait for it.

"Hey, is Egore there? No?... Oh I'm sorry, I must have dialed the wrong number."
Discretion and respect is a 2 way street. It's a simple message. I'd have to say that a great majority of callers do leave a message with their question(s) or requests, along with if they want you to call back or if they will call later.
By calling a number back, it is not trying to disrespect the pooner. It's a case of numerous calls displayed on the phone in a short time, and some messages just say "Call me back."
Terror shouldn't and wouldn't be struck, if a simple message was left. If you wait for the caller to call back, you might not be available at that time. Like they say, you can please some people all of the time, but you can't please all people all of the time. It's 6 of one, half dozen of another, and it can be easily cured with a 5 second message of intent or instruction.

 

[therealrex]

That's ridiculous its not a 2 way street if they don't leave a message don't call. If you had 10 messages saying "I called but you weren't in don't call me back" you'd be on here complaining about that.

 

[Bartdude]

Gotta agree with the others....DON'T CALL BACK.

The notion that a guy expects a callback without leaving a message is ridiculous.

And those guys that DO expect that - well, they're either stupid, psychotic, or just plain not nice.

 

[luv-em-n-lv-em]

Annalise & Jenn, you really need to give your heads a shake.

Whatever happened to:

Rule 1 = Discretion​

Having been indiscreet/careless on one occasion myself, I am extra careful since then.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

I'm pretty good with the messages and the returning of them. I figure if they left me a message I'll return their call. Even better if they have a specific time they would want their call returned, I respect it. I even refrain from returning messages if the number wasn't provided in the message but on the call display.

It's just good sense.

Being in this business as an SP will get you a lot of window shoppers and you have to expect that, grow thicker skin and move on.

 

[Jodie]

No, no, no, no, and NO!

An SP should NEVER, EVER return a call unsolicited unless she and the client have a pre-existing arrangement to that effect.

Gentlemen have to unblock their numbers because we insist that they do so for our safety; however, that is definitely not an open invitation to randomly call all the numbers on our call display lest we miss a potential booking.

If you catch a little bit of flack for being hard to reach (i.e. "I called you six times and you never returned my call..."), simply explain that for reasons of discretion and professionalism it is your policy to not return calls without explicit directions to do so. I think most guys would respect your position in this matter, and would probably be happy to know that you can be trusted to be discreet.

For what it's worth, I have had a few clients tell me horror stories of ladies returning phonecalls unsolicited, so apparently this is a more common practice than I would have thought

 

[georgebushmoron]

An SP should NEVER, EVER return a call unsolicited unless she and the client have a pre-existing arrangement to that effect.

What if the SP has other people than customers calling her number? Like the account manager, the plumber, or the landlord... or even the kid calling from a friend's cell phone, and they don't leave a message? It would be "professional" for an SP to carry two cell phones, one for business and one for private, but this ideal is often not convenient - and furthermore, the customer would not know of the existence of another cell phone so he would not know if he is NOT interfering in her personal life.

Frankly for the guy to bitch about it is stupid. He assumes her behaviour, presuming she is the type of individual who does this or that with the way she manages her life. There are many different types of SPs out there, and who really knows what kind of person she really is and what her habits are. You can't assume anything. When engaging in activities that is deemed illicit, he should assume nothing of her, for the responsibility is his. If he cherishes his life so much, he should take greater measures against such things happening instead of whining like a child and blaming someone else. IE: doing something sneaky or leading a double life ... then cover your ass! For starters, he could leave a message requesting not to call back and that he would try again. Or he could call from a line that would not put him at risk. If he doesn't have one, get one.

 

[CalgaryJenn]

What if the SP has other people than customers calling her number? Like the account manager, the plumber, or the landlord... or even the kid calling from a friend's cell phone, and they don't leave a message? It would be "professional" for an SP to carry two cell phones, one for business and one for private, but this ideal is often not convenient - and furthermore, the customer would not know of the existence of another cell phone so he would not know if he is NOT interfering in her personal life.

Frankly for the guy to bitch about it is stupid. He assumes her behaviour, presuming she is the type of individual who does this or that with the way she manages her life. When engaging in activities that is deemed illicit, he should assume nothing of her, for the responsibility is his. If he cherishes his life so much, he should take greater measures against such things happening instead of whining like a child and blaming someone else. For starters, he could leave a message requesting not to call back and that he would try again. Or he could call from a line that would not put him at risk. If he doesn't have one, get one.

Exactly. I have had cases where I have been busy for one hour and the phone rings 10 times from the same number. When you call it back they complain. I'm not one who wishes ill will on anybody, nor would I like to see somebody be put in a situation that may cause them trouble. But at the same time, it's as simple as a 5 second message saying not to call back and that they will call later. It's easy to jump on somebody for making that call back. If a simple message isn't hard to do. It's not like I'm calling people at random 2 hours later. In fact, in almost all cases, I call back within 15 to 30 minutes. I don't think there are many adults out there who are too meek, scared or fraile to leave a 5 to 10 second message saying they will call back later. If you had time to call me to inquire in the first place, you obviously had time to leave a brief message so I know.
At the same time, I do understand some of the other points that have been made on this topic. All I personally ask for is a message of some sort so I know what you want to do. Call you back, wait for you to call back and so on. Like I said, for me a good 95% of call backs are positive and without problems. I'd say another 3%, the caller has found what they were looking for already, and 2% are no answers. Like anything else, opinions will vary. Discretion is important, I agree completely, but discretion needs to be practiced from both ends of the hobby.

 

[Jodie]

What if the SP has other people than customers calling her number? Like the account manager, the plumber, or the landlord... or even the kid calling from a friend's cell phone, and they don't leave a message?

Even in my personal life, I don't believe in calling someone back just because I saw their number on my caller ID. I figure that if they wanted me to call back, they would have left a message requesting me to do so. I actually get annoyed when anyone (yes, even my friends) calls me back because they "saw my number on the caller ID." I find that sort of behaviour to be very presumptuous and an invasion of my privacy. That said, I know it is pretty commonplace and I am probably an anomaly in this regard.

It would be "professional" for an SP to carry two cell phones, one for business and one for private, but this ideal is often not convenient

Perhaps not, but I think a dedicated "business" phone is de rigeur in this line of work.

Or he could call from a line that would not put him at risk. If he doesn't have one, get one.

I would be more inclined to think that it is the escort (i.e. the business) who should have the dedicated phone line, not the consumer.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

I never, never, never call back unless asked to. If it's too late to call back by the time I get the message.. I won't call the following day either.

I cannot imagine calling someone who hasn't specifically left me a message telling me to do so. It's just playing with fire.. and IMHO, why risk it? The "what if's" aren't enough incentive for me to take that chance. If someone wants to see me and they could not get a hold of me then, they will either try calling again or find an alternate way to contact me.

But I completely agree that someone who calls repeatedly should at least leave a message, even if only to say not to call back and that they will be trying later. But I'm just not comfortable taking the initiative to call someone who hasn't specifically asked me to. I think it goes against the promise of discretion. Anyone could answer that phone, a lot of damage could be done and a mess made of someone's life.

I have no desire to be the catalyst of such a shitty situation.

 

[luv-em-n-lv-em]

If you catch a little bit of flack for being hard to reach (i.e. "I called you six times and you never returned my call..."), simply explain that for reasons of discretion and professionalism it is your policy to not return calls without explicit directions to do so. I think most guys would respect your position in this matter, and would probably be happy to know that you can be trusted to be discreet.

And if a guy has problems understanding your wish to act with discretion, how far can you trust in his discretion?

 

[Hoops]

Please do NOT ever call me back.

 

[luv-em-n-lv-em]

Today I had a SP call me because my number was on her call display list.

Given that most of the people who have responded to this thread do not support such actions, maybe it would be appropriate to provide us with the SP's name (nom de plume, not real name).

If an SP has a habit of acting this way, I would just as soon not call that person (and I do have a hobby phone).

 

[the_shogun]

leave a message. that's pretty simple.