Discretion

[TTTWISTER]

Hey quit outing me.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

Ok, what I was saying was that I think it is rather doubtful that an SP who insists on photo ID 'does not look at the name'. If you are verifying that your clients are over 19 or whatever, you could specify that you ask for ID if the person isn't obviously over 19 or something, but that's not what you say.

I beg your fuckin' pardon? I "could" specify that I ask for ID for proof of age? What am I going to do with a name or address for that matter, when someone books to take advantage of the discounts I offer? What hasn't been clear about my asking for photo ID when I started asking for it 3 years ago?

Next, if an SP does not accept blocked calls, that means that she looks at the call display before picking up the call. Now, if she had NO record or memory of any client phone numbers anywhere, what exactly would be the point of seeing a number that would mean NOTHING to her on call display?

A phone number on a call display means I pick it up assuming it's not from a payphone which I don't answer as well as blocked numbers. Seeing a number on a call display and recording it are two different things.

Keep in mind that I did NOT call you a 'liar' I just said that I found some of the things you said very unbelievable. For some reason, Ropey the wonder troll decided that I called you a liar, and your reply was that you have never outed any clients. I then said that being a liar and outing clients are two completely different things.

Sure, they are two different things but you wasted no time in implying otherwise, did you? Those implications alone are what is/has potentially damaging my business whether it is intentional or not is besides the point but you are not helping my business or the minds of the client, either way.

What was that you said about not calling me a liar?

...and you don't exactly have a sterling reputation for telling the truth yourself (yes I have read EVERYTHING that you have posted)...

Without actual proof you have no grounds to call me a liar. I'll still be here waiting for you to produce some evidence.

So, just to be clear, I have NOT said that I think you have outed anyone. I have never heard about you doing so, and have no reason to think you did.

YOU need to be very careful with what you say. It's clear that implications are enough to bury innocent people. You played a central role in perpetuating baseless claims in a rather accusing tone all in the name of honesty and good faith in business and all directed at me. And for what? An answer that was there for you if you had taken the time to look in the right places.

Who the fuck do you think you are? I understand you were doing this as a favour speaking for all prospective clients but as I said before, leave it for them to make that decision as I've had that option available to them for the past 3 years. Smearing my good name wasn't necessary to make your point as I say again, the point had been made by me FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS!!! The system isn't flawed, IT HAS WORKED FOR MYSELF AND CLIENTS FOR 3 YEARS! Confidence in the potential clients I've lost because of the stupid stunt you pulled can not be restored.

All this was useless. The only thing YOU should be saying at this point is "SORRY".


Oh and by the way, it isn't sad and pathetic that someone took the time to read over 2800+ posts you authored, what's sad and pathetic is the self professed doctor finding the time to post 2800+ on two escort based forums in such little time. Where do you find the time to post when you aren't saving the handicapped, dispensing medical facts that can be found on the internet, curing AIDS, doing social heart warming pro bono work in third world countries, offering legal advice all the while working as a doctor in the ER, conducting case studies on race relations and domestic abuse and correcting grammar/punctuation, to post that often?

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

I figured you wouldn't apologize. What a fuckin' joke you are.

Ok, there's something I'm curious about. Maybe it's just something about the phone system that I haven't learned yet, please enlighten me if so.

Given that you 'don't spend the extra time and money' to have the name display feature on your caller ID, as you stated here:



Then can you tell me how you know a call is from a payphone just from the number itself? (if there is a trick to it, I'm curious to know it myself)



Thanks.

Landline call displays show the name and number if you subscribe to it and forward mobile phones to it. Also mobile phones are showing the name and number now like a landline, now.

You can't stand to be wrong, can you? Just argumentative and a wasting oxygen.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

Hmm

1) I never thought that over two years was 'such little time' but ok, if you say so.

2) It would be rather hard to come up with a medical fact that can't be found on the internet. The internet is a pretty big place you know.

3) Not quite sure why you thought I had anything to do with AIDS research or work, I don't.

4) Haven't been to a third world country in a number of years (more than two).

5) Don't spend much time 'in the ER', it's not my regular thing.

6) I don't conduct the studies on domestic abuse in various ethnic groups, never claimed I did. I do read the studies that other people conduct from time to time though.

7) I don't spend much time correcting anyone's grammar/punctuation. That would take more than 25 hours a day around here.

Clever respones considering all that you've posted here and other forums like this, suggests otherwise.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

So, could you please explain the apparent contradiction between the following two statements you have made? I don't quite understand how they can both be true.





So, do you get the name as well as the number, or don't you?

Or did you mean to say that you 'just look at the number' and not the name, like you do with photo ID?

Quoting myself in response to your query:

...Seeing a number on a call display and recording it are two different things...

If landline is forwarded to mobile, a number will show but no name. In that event, if it was necessary you can find out the name behind that number. Possibly illegal, if I was so inclined, all I had to do is do a search on the number find out who the carrier is and proceed to bribe an employee into giving me the name. That's more time and money than I'm willing to part with.

On landline (and now mobiles) both name/number are displayed.

Your turn. Explain the relevance of recording a name? Remembering and recording a name/number is different than noting it to pick up or not.

There isn't a contradiction but the one you conjured up.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

I've lost interest in the bickering when there were still other ppl contributing -- but as I saw this thread at the top of the page again and saw who the last poster was, it just hit me how friggin FAMILIAR it is to see your handle JJ repeatedly come up on a thread with yet another...

endless-please-shoot-me-now-this-is-beyond-annoying-going-around-in-circles-i'll say-anything-to-keep-it-going-pick-at-anything-to-have-the-last-wordDebate.

Kids debate for the sake of trying to prove they know-it-all.
Adults, in theory (or in my dreams, anyway) know when it's time to drop it.


Would please please please pleeeeeease just drop it?!
Your behavior reminds me of that annoying know-it-all in my class when I was 10.
Were you an only child by any chance? I bet you were..


The debates about something or another always turn into a painfully annoying nit-picking of everything the other person writes and while the person you butt heads with is different from one topic to another.. there is one thing that is the same time after time.. You.

But seriously, doesn't that tell you something? I think it's worth giving some thought one of these days you're not so busy debating.

 

[Man Mountain]

Your behavior reminds me of that annoying know-it-all in my class when I was 10.
Were you an only child by any chance? I bet you were..

Hey! I was an only child.

 

[TotallyTouchin]

Blocked calls

I used to be independant and get these random blocked calls all the time that were from kids, guys jerking off, other girls telling me to change my name ....you name it.

Most indies feel safer having a number to be able to call to confirm the date they have with you. If something were to come up and you can't make it...you have to have some place to call n'est pas???

I think I would probably have answered the pay phones when I was indie cause I can't recognise the difference but they wouldn't have seen me as usually I would always have asked if I can call the number back and at what time...

I had these weird kids calling my phone for like a year from blocked numbers telling me that if I had a boyfriend they'd beat him up ....guys don't get that indies get a BUNCH of calls a day. Some are very legitimate callers who want to book and then there are these weird dudes who want to jack off and kids and all sorts of characters etc.

That's why most girls aren't down with the whole blocked call thing. They've experienced the crazy side of prank calls....and they never lead to a phone that is a real number. Pretty much 99% are blocked.

Just my thought.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

I think what a lot of people would want to ask you JJ, if they had the patience to read all your posts in this thread is, what's your point? What are you trying to prove? And of what relevance is it?

I haven't lied at all. If I'm looking at ID for any discounted session that calls for it, I'm going to look straight at the dates and picture. A name is completely irrelevent.

On a call display, I see if it's a payphone or anything outside of what I deem as unacceptable to answer. The name is still irrelevent.

You question my credibility but just how is yours after producing and posting half the garbage you had in this thread alone. What did the nit-picking accomplish? I didn't suffer in the process other than the time it took for me to answer. My credibility is still intact. None of this is new news.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

I've lost interest in the bickering when there were still other ppl contributing -- but as I saw this thread at the top of the page again and saw who the last poster was, it just hit me how friggin FAMILIAR it is to see your handle JJ repeatedly come up on a thread with yet another...

endless-please-shoot-me-now-this-is-beyond-annoying-going-around-in-circles-i'll say-anything-to-keep-it-going-pick-at-anything-to-have-the-last-wordDebate.

Kids debate for the sake of trying to prove they know-it-all.
Adults, in theory (or in my dreams, anyway) know when it's time to drop it.


Would please please please pleeeeeease just drop it?!
Your behavior reminds me of that annoying know-it-all in my class when I was 10.
Were you an only child by any chance? I bet you were..


The debates about something or another always turn into a painfully annoying nit-picking of everything the other person writes and while the person you butt heads with is different from one topic to another.. there is one thing that is the same time after time.. You.

But seriously, doesn't that tell you something? I think it's worth giving some thought one of these days you're not so busy debating.

What's worse is trying to discredit someone by manner of nit-picking. Choosing just completely irrelevent angles to discredit someone makes them so petty. Ugh, what a headache.

 

[Robertdice]

BcMod


Why were 2 posts containing important information deleted/edited? 4 men have come forward and complained about their private info being leaked by a provider who advertises here and you have deleted their words with only a poor explanation of it being an attack on this sp. I know paid providers are favored here because they fill Fred’s pocket but you could be putting many future hobbyists at risk. Way to go! I know your job is voluntary and probably involves more headache then fun but I think you made a very poor choice in covering for this sp.

 

[jjinvan]

At least they left my proof of her lying intact.

Not that she understands the meanings of the words 'proof' or 'lie'...

 

[jjinvan]

BcMod


Why were 2 posts containing important information deleted/edited? 4 men have come forward and complained about their private info being leaked by a provider who advertises here and you have deleted their words with only a poor explanation of it being an attack on this sp. I know paid providers are favored here because they fill Fred’s pocket but you could be putting many future hobbyists at risk. Way to go! I know your job is voluntary and probably involves more headache then fun but I think you made a very poor choice in covering for this sp.

maybe the guys should post the info somewhere more... unbiased... ?

 

[jjinvan]

awww you found another picture to describe how cute and cuddly you think I am...

it's gonna break your heart... but.... you just aren't my type.. sorry...

 

[Robertdice]

Mr. ropey you sure are suspicious jumping to Creole’s defense after only 2 months on the board. Did you used to go by the name of Lolita or whatever it was, you know the roommate that no one ever met?

 

[jjinvan]

Mr. ropey you sure are suspicious jumping to Creole’s defense after only 2 months on the board. Did you used to go by the name of Lolita or whatever it was, you know the roommate that no one ever met?

Interesting idea, and I was almost ready to put money down that Ropey was Citylover...

 

[Robertdice]

Mr. Ropey, you claimed to know more then 3 shots just because you have a higher post count, he had more seniority then you. Your logic went out the window right there. Keep trying to spin it anyway you want.

What gives you the right to call others a liar? Why do you protest to know the truth and everyone else doesn’t?

Maybe Ropey is someone else I wouldn’t know who he/she is but you notice how Ropey tries and brow beat and also has to get the last word just like Creole. I am not accusing anyone of anything just pointing out some observations.

 

[jjinvan]

Hey for all I know all three of them are the same person, I've already said that Ropey doesn't seem to have a Y chromosome.

note: I'm not saying they are all the same person, I'm just saying that I haven't seen anything that discounts the idea.

 

[Robertdice]

Hmm

1) I never thought that over two years was 'such little time' but ok, if you say so.

2) It would be rather hard to come up with a medical fact that can't be found on the internet. The internet is a pretty big place you know.

3) Not quite sure why you thought I had anything to do with AIDS research or work, I don't.

4) Haven't been to a third world country in a number of years (more than two).

5) Don't spend much time 'in the ER', it's not my regular thing.

6) I don't conduct the studies on domestic abuse in various ethnic groups, never claimed I did. I do read the studies that other people conduct from time to time though.

7) I don't spend much time correcting anyone's grammar/punctuation. That would take more than 25 hours a day around here.

This discredits her original post and following arguments of wanting proof before opening ones mouth.

 

[Robertdice]

Hmm.... So, you don't 'spend the extra time and money to see the name' but somehow, you can see the name to tell if it is a cellphone or not, or can you?

You don't seem to be sure if you can see it or not, but you don't answer if the name that you don't see is a cellphone?



And again, you can't quite make up your mind here..





I conjured up nothing.

Your response to someone else saying that by not accepting blocked calls or calls from payphones, you are forcing clients to give you their name was that you 'don't spend the time or money to get the name from caller ID'.

But then, you somehow, without seeing the name, don't pick up for cellphones...

But wait... you DO see the name, but oops, that contradicts your earlier statement...

So... you're back to not seeing the name again... unless it's a payphone.

Maybe you use ESP to determine if it's a payphone or not, and if it is, then you look at the name but if your ESP tells you that it's not a payphone you don't look at the name?

But I'm sure EVERYTHING you say is true, even the bits that contradict each other...

I wonder how Ropey will explain that this isn't proof of the speaking of mistruths. I can't wait to see her try.

JJ may be a pain in the ass at times and possibly a rat but he sure called this one right on the money.