Did Kobe Do It????

[hoknowz]

I am a long time Lakers fan and Kobe is the reason why they have 3 championships in a row with one coming this year. Weather or not he did it is a moot point. What is she doing in his room? What is she doing asking for shut up money and a car? Like she didn't give it up. Please........
The point is that Kobe is a future hall of famer, is consistant (unless Phil Jackson pisses him off and he refuses to shoot the damn ball like in Game 2 of the Rockets/Lakers series) with an average of at least 24 points per game and in the long run that is what should be remembered?
One last question....would the outcome be different if it was someone like Steve Nash ?

 

[bigdman]

Ya but he is & he helped lead the lakers to 3 championships in a row. If you were a lakers fan it would be important to you. Kobe is one of the best basketball players in the world

I can't believe people saying these stuff..., if he DID IT, then he is guilty, if he DID NOT DO IT, then he is innocent, period. !!!

It should not be judged by how great a basketball player he is or how rich he is, or he's got a beautiful wife so he did not have to do it, shit like these.

Best basketball player doesn't buy you a free ticket to assault other women, women have the rights to say "YES" or "NO" to whoever they want to have sex with.

Its like if you are an asshole, then you are one. It does not change you from being an asshole to MR. nice guy.

sorry Kobe, I hate those fake tears...He should stand up like a real MAN (stop those freaking crying shit) and admit to have made a mistake.

HE IS GUILTY

 

[sirlickheralot]

The fact that he bought his wife a big ass ring shows pretty much shows his guilt.

There is no question that he is guilty of infidelity, but there is a huge difference between that and rape. I think that what occured between Kobe and this woman was consensual sex, not rape. She is either mentally disturbed or an opportunistic golddigger out for a big score.

 

[bigdman]

The bigger question is.

Do we really care?

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sushiman,

I don't think we really care about this rapist. But we should all care about the outcome of the court (providing if all evidence pointing at him).

I wonder why people didn't raise a question regarding " IF Michael Jackson did it?" thread?

 

[bigdman]

There is no question that he is guilty of infidelity, but there is a huge difference between that and rape. I think that what occured between Kobe and this woman was consensual sex, not rape. She is either mentally disturbed or an opportunistic golddigger out for a big score.

She could be mentally disturbed or an opportunistic goldigger. But still doesn't have the right to violate a woman's right to defend herself. If she is mentally disturbed as you described, sir, then, wouldn't you think Kobe was an opportunistic shithead in this situation?

secondly, would you consider the victim from Mike Tyson's case a golddigger?? NOT a CHANCE. Because she was a bit well known than the girl in Kobe's case. And also Tyson looked rough and he is a bully.

Come on, ladies and gents, do not let the tears from Kobe fool you; I assume you all are intelligent enough to see the facts...

 

[dArtagnan]

Looks like this case is going to turn out just like the O.J. Simpson trial.

I think that the judges have adjusted from the O.J. circus. Most of them are not allowing cameras into the trial room, don't need the circus.

 

[HeMadeMeDoIt]

The Girl is a lying piece of trash!

If someone was subjected to anything as traumatic as rape would they have sex immediaely thereafter with another guy?

 

[bigdman]

If a woman she is lying considered "a lying piece of trash!"...
what if a man he is lying??? what is he considered be....a lying piece of....?????


By the way, each and everyone is different in terms of subject to anything happens to them...some people take it very hard, some don't take it as hard, BUT still it doesn't give Kobe the right to do what he did to the girl. Kobe is the lying SOB and he deserves all the punishment he can get.
If the court rules kobe guilty and sends him to jail, watch out guys.., he will be fk up the ass in jail

 

[sirlickheralot]

She could be mentally disturbed or an opportunistic goldigger. But still doesn't have the right to violate a woman's right to defend herself. If she is mentally disturbed as you described, sir, then, wouldn't you think Kobe was an opportunistic shithead in this situation?

secondly, would you consider the victim from Mike Tyson's case a golddigger?? NOT a CHANCE. Because she was a bit well known than the girl in Kobe's case. And also Tyson looked rough and he is a bully.

Come on, ladies and gents, do not let the tears from Kobe fool you; I assume you all are intelligent enough to see the facts...

Don't twist my words Bigdman. Being a pathalogical liar either for financial gain or just for attention can be viewed as being mentally disturbed and I think that this is the case here. I didn't say she was mentally incompetent and therefore incabable of granting consent. Read my statement and you will see that I stated I think that this was consensual sex and not rape. I think she consented to have sex with Kobe and either planned all along to accuse him or decided after the fact that it would be a good opportunity to make a false accusation. I'm sure Kobe didn't know she was mentally disturbed when he slept with her.

I wouldn't consider someone that has genuinely been wronged and sues a golddigger. I would consider someone that makes false accusations for financial gain a golddigger.

I also wouldn't compare this case to the Mike Tyson case. Mike Tyson is a violent man with a history of violence against women that proceeded the accusation against him. Tyson even admitted in an interview that he liked to fuck his wife Robin Givens so hard that he'd make her bleed. On the other hand a violent act of rape is by all accounts totally out of character for Kobe. Tyson is a stupid man who has shown time and againd that he never thinks of the consequences of his actions and has no control over his impulses. Kobe seems intelligent enough and in control enough that he would recognize the consequences of raping someone. When you have as many women throwing themselves at you as someone like Kobe does, if you give in to temptation odds are some of them are going to be nut-bars. Kobe just chose to sleep with the wrong woman.

There has been information released in the media which make her accusations seem suspicious, like the fact she went out the day after she was allegedly raped and had sex with another man. If Kobe did all that damage to her during a rape why would she want to have sex the next day.

You seem to be of the opinion that a woman could never lie about being raped therefore Kobe must be guilty. I happen to think she is lying about being raped and Kobe is innocent. Don't try to twist things around and make it sound like I approve of rape or feel a woman doesn't have the right to say no. In this case I just don't think she said no.

 

[The Fisherman]

Kobe just chose to sleep with the wrong woman.

I agree. He's lucky she didn't boil his rabbit.

 

[bigdman]

chill out, sir, I did not try to make it sound like you approve of raping a woman. Lets not to defend this useless piece of shit here! But we have to consider if the victim was actually looking for sex the next day is true or not since money can buy a whole lot of things.

Secondly, kobe having tears doesn't mean he did not do it. And it also doesn't mean that he was intelligent enough not to do it. However, he was intelligent enough to buy his wife a big ass ring to try to get her on his side before the whole sh#t getting more attention than my d from V-L. Would you consider Michael Jackson a child molester, he looks so innocent and caring especially giving lots of money to third world country. But he is still a child molesteror.
As for kobe, you stated that many women throwing themselves at him, so does that mean he has to screw all these women? kobe is just an opportunist so he could screw around...

I don't believe that a woman could never lie. But in this case, I believe her more than kobe.

As for Tyson's case, he admitted that he was rough even with his wife, that is because he was stupid enough (Mike was trying to be a MAN) and correct me if I am wrong, he was also divorced prior to the court. Whereas kobe was smart enough not to say any stupid things that can jeopadize his case.

sorry you think I try to twist your words around.

Peace Not War

 

[brianwarner]

A woman can decide, after having concensual sex, that it was not consensual. She can decide that it was, in fact, forced upon her. And the courts in Canada and US support this.

And non-consensual sex is a form of assault that includes sex, which by definition is rape. So then the poor guy, if convicted, is labeled a rapist. And even if he wins the case, he will lose his shirt or possibly go broke defending himself while she can make the allegations and the crown will prosecute on her behalf. Not only that, you can not bring up her past relations, and you have to fight to even mention her past medical history.

This sort of shit happens to men a lot. It's an extremely unfair world.

 

[bigdman]

Doesn't that tell us men not to screw around??

That's why I rather go pooning than the free stuff cause now it might end up costing a lot to kobe

 

[Verb]

Here is my two cents.


She has a past that the prosecution doesn't want people to know. Reason for that is she tried to commit suicide a few times which proves her mentally unstable. Second thing is that she wasn't doing well in school and her career was going know where.

I truely believe she think she can get away with this and get some Monica Lewinsky type of publicity.

The fact that she had multiple sex partners within the week she had sex with KOBE, proves alot. My question for her is, why would you have sex with all those average joes and say NO to a superstar like KOBE BRYANT?? I do not believe she said NO because it is like a fellow PERB member passing up sex with BRITNEY SPEARS. IT JUST AIN"T GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!!!

 

[MoeTheBartender]

I think that the judges have adjusted from the O.J. circus. Most of them are not allowing cameras into the trial room, don't need the circus.

That's true D'Artagnan. That's media hype for you,
all the drama and suspense just like a bad b-movie.

 

[bigdman]

Here is my two cents.


She has a past that the prosecution doesn't want people to know. Reason for that is she tried to commit suicide a few times which proves her mentally unstable. Second thing is that she wasn't doing well in school and her career was going know where.

I......................

verb,
if the above quote is true then I believe the jury is going to hang kobe. Whether it is true or not that kobe committed the rape.

This is going to be a GREAT REAL LIFE LESSON for kobe and others (celebraties) to learn.

 

[Hardatwork]

Hi bigdman,

I don't want to seem like I'm ganging up on you, but in this case I'd have to agree with sirlickheralot 100%. I don't profess to know all the details of this case but from what little I've absorbed from the press (because everything you see on tv is true... ) it certainly does sound like Kobe has a case to defend himself. I don't think that Kobe's past history suggests that he's had this indiscretion before, which made this allegation shocking (at least to me). Michael Jackson on the other hand has had allegations laid against him in the past, so when other people come forward and accuse him of child molestation I can't say that I'm surprised. Horrified yes, surprised no.

I think that the only great real life lesson that everyone will see is the same life lesson that we learned from the OJ Simpson trial... those who can afford the best attorneys will win.

 

[Verb]

I think that the only great real life lesson that everyone will see is the same life lesson that we learned from the OJ Simpson trial... those who can afford the best attorneys will win.

I agree %100

 

[Hit Man]

Wow Blah, that's a pretty strong statement. I, too, think he's innocent and that this is all a blame game. But to say that everyone in Colordo is a hillbilly is maybe going a bit too far. Especially to suggest that blatant racism is so rampant that a jury can't be seated that would judge the case on it's merits is, if not racism, certainly prejudice. We all experince prejudice in our everyday lives. When I see a person with gang regalia I tend to believe they are in a gang. That's prejudice; pre-judjing them without any knowledge of who they are. That doesn't mean that their ethnicity is factor. This case will be decided on the facts and my belief is that juries ( with the exception of the OJ case) will weigh the facts and come to a truthful finding. Excellent topic. HM

 

[roadwarrior]

Kobe leads the Lakers to the next round!

And Kobe leads the Lakers to the next round with a commanding performance in game five! Groupies are lined up in every city's dressing room for Kobe. I don't think he did it.