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Do you think that seeking the service of an SP has changed you?

Positively? Do you feel more comfortable talking to women after frequently visiting your favorite SP(s)?

Psychologically and/or physically? Do you feel that you are more manlier? Your sexual techniques got better?

Negatively? Aside from burning a whole in your wallet, do you feel or think that an average women can no longer satisfy you? Do you feel that you will be expecting escort level service from average women?
 

newkind

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if anything it made it so I wont spend the energy and games trying to seduce a girl in real life to sleep with me and just go to an sp instead and get better service too and its sure thing
 

PuntMeister

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Sometimes we get hung up one who started a thread. A troll? Banned member perhaps?

To me, the thread brings up interesting points for discussion, why not discuss? Does it really matter who started the discussion?
Well said Sir! Punt tries to live by the Perben Rule:

- If you love my comment, post
- If you think I'm a shit head, PM.

-Punt
 

vancity_cowboy

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Sometimes we get hung up one who started a thread. A troll? Banned member perhaps?

To me, the thread brings up interesting points for discussion, why not discuss? Does it really matter who started the discussion?
i don't think it brings up interesting points for discussion at all

i think it asks a bunch of rhetorical questions, the answers to which are patently obvious with no need for discussion

the troll, having set their bait, sits back and waits for the self righteous to post themselves into a fury, creating much entertainment for themselves. this is a famous technique of joe45, hence my guess as to it's identity

but whatever
 

newkind

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I think it is a good topic and want to see more replies to the question rather than all the off topic garbage
 
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Lol. All I gotta say is, WTF?

I started an honest thread to see if this hobby will change a person for better or worse, and there are people that think it's a troll post?

Do you guys really raise your caution every time you read a suspicious post and tell yourself "I better not answer his question" because my internet identity is so precious that if I get trolled, I might lose reputation?

You read a thread, like it, discuss, don't like it, move on. I just don't understand what you guys are all suspicious about. It's a discussion forum ffs.

I joined this forum in hopes to have mature discussions and little did I know, it's the same god damn thing as revscene, filled with these little kids with internet ego.
 
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yeah ok
why dont you contribute instead of only asking trolling questions?
right here would be the place to start joe
Your assumptions DOES make an ASS out of U and ME.

I never had a SP before that provides GFE. The reason I`m asking is because I`m contemplating whether to go or not and if it will make a positive change and if negative, what sort of negatives, but basically just want to hear other people`s experience and opinions.

I hope this ends your suspicion because behind all this, I`m just laughing at how idiotic you sound thinking I`m joe45 (yes I`ve heard of him).

And to help you and vancitycowboy settle your bet, here is a reference to a post I made when I joined perb to show you that I am new to the game.

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If none of this helps, then continue doing what you`re doing. Tie everyone that is a member of revscene, bodybuildingforums and perb to joe45. Mad props to joe45 though for getting you on an epic journey to attempt to bust anyone you suspect.
 
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vancitycowboy and i put our money on joe45

he (eggtart_prince ) is also on his two favorite sites revscene.com and bodybuilding.com which is a big give away for this troll
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Dude it's pretty creepy that you looked him up like that. But Eggtart I think you should buy a house with your mom and leave your dad for now. Also dump that chick you can do better.
 

PlayfulAlex

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Do you think that seeking the service of an SP has changed you?

Positively? Do you feel more comfortable talking to women after frequently visiting your favorite SP(s)?

Psychologically and/or physically? Do you feel that you are more manlier? Your sexual techniques got better?

Negatively? Aside from burning a whole in your wallet, do you feel or think that an average women can no longer satisfy you? Do you feel that you will be expecting escort level service from average women?
I am sure that many of the members here belong to and post in other forums. I would not hold that against anyone. Mr. Eggtart's questions seem legitimate, for someone who is new to the scene and contemplating taking the plunge into the escort world. In fact, I am pretty sure that every gentleman that ever called their first lady went through something like this, a question and answer period in their own head. This one was just a little public, that's all...

Well, let me re-think that, some people just plunge into things without thinking, but Mr. EP is obviously a thinker, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I am enjoying the gentlemen's responses and may start a similar thread for the ladies of this forum!
 

papillion

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I am sure that many of the members here belong to and post in other forums. I would not hold that against anyone. Mr. Eggtart's questions seem legitimate, for someone who is new to the scene and contemplating taking the plunge into the escort world. In fact, I am pretty sure that every gentleman that ever called their first lady went through something like this, a question and answer period in their own head. This one was just a little public, that's all...

Well, let me re-think that, some people just plunge into things without thinking, but Mr. EP is obviously a thinker, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I am enjoying the gentlemen's responses and may start a similar thread for the ladies of this forum!
I agree with you Alex, EP is prolly genuinely curious about the ramifications around this hobby.
As to the OP, it had a positive effect; less fear about being around women, being intimate, developing a relationship.
 

hornygandalf

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I've been bemused and mystified why there has been so much debate over the identity and motivation of the original poster. This seemed to be a perfectly legitimate question worthy of some discussion, no matter who originally posted it.

So, for me, with very limited experience (and mainly getting vicarious benefits from the accounts of others), it has fulfilled a need, a need I would prefer to have filled by my SO. However, that is not happening at the present. One concern is that this might get rather addictive (and very expensive).

Has it changed me? I think it has got me thinking more deeply about the whole ethical and moral issues around sex work, and I've become a lot more understanding as a result (be hypocritical if I didn't). I still have concerns regarding exploitation and trafficking, but have the impression it is much less of a problem than portrayed in the media. It has also met a particular need and hunger, and I wish I could partake more frequently. I have the impression there are a lot of really interesting and neat women out there in this business (particularly among the more mature ones).

Positively? More confidence? Not sure on this one. Certainly has boosted my self-esteem somewhat, and I think it has also increased my confidence. My SO would be tired out at one orgasm... and I believe I have been able to go to multiple, though not sure how much of it was acting.

Psychologically and physically? Physically - absolutely, as I have missed the touch of a women, and the feel of naked bodies touching. I've realized how important that is to me. Psychologically - I am still saddened that it isn't my SO that I am enjoying these pleasures with, and I do still struggle whether I should be doing this. But, I do also feel it has been freeing to some degree. Do I feel more manlier? No, I don't think that it has made any different on that side. It has been mind expanding though, with the thinking that has gone on around it.

Negatively? It has certainly burned a hole in my meagre budget, but that is only one reason I have been very sporadic and kept to lower cost professionals. I've reviewed two, and a third I haven't (as I think the mediocre experience had as much or more to do with me and the situation leading upto it rather the lady herself, who had multiple good reviews). It has given me a taste of the erotic possibilities, and I know I could, and would like to, go much further. Will I be expecting 'escort level' service from average women? I'm not sure. Certainly my expectations has increased, though I think responsibility for the experience is as much on me as the women, and in the right relationship (and context) there is no reason why I wouldn't have a similar level of experience (or better). For me, it is more than just the physical experience, and so in a loving, long-term relationship, the psychological benefits are significant (and important).

And Playful Alex, I would love to read a similar thread for the ladies of this forum... and one day we might get the pleasure of meeting. You are someone who intrigues me.
 
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hornygandalf

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Thanks for the context BadgerJohn. Being more recent I guess I haven't seen the actions/postings that you refer to, but I can understand the speculation. To me it seemed a legitimate question, but just maybe there is another agenda behind it. Still, would be interested to see responses from the ladies side.
 

hornygandalf

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Some wise words... thank you.

There is a saying from antiquity, no man steps into the same river twice - as both the man and the river have changed. Even though we try to think otherwise, nothing stays the same, it is ever moving. Even sitting still, you change. Everything you do has an aspect of change to you and you have an aspect to change others in your interaction.

Now I realize many chuckle at that for this thread, but it is true nonetheless. However, it doesn't have to mean we change much. My situation (wants, needs, why) seems to be a bit different than what I read here from most of you on perb, but when reduced/normalized, we all seem to have a similar need being met on either side of the transaction. I am only concerned for those where the concept of that reality is blurred, or on the other end, they can or will not perceive that all of us client or SP are just people, with all the facets of everyday people everywhere. There are troubled people out there, everywhere.

I would think most importantly for the OP - be sure you are self assessing all the time to examine if what you are doing is healthy for you. I suspect there are people on here whom are not, so be aware of yourself and what you do.
 

newkind

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the bad part is if you do find yourself getting emotionally attached to the girls, where you think about them away from sessions and it tears at your heart strings with similar feelings you would normally get from potential love interest relationships
 
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I am sure that many of the members here belong to and post in other forums. I would not hold that against anyone. Mr. Eggtart's questions seem legitimate, for someone who is new to the scene and contemplating taking the plunge into the escort world. In fact, I am pretty sure that every gentleman that ever called their first lady went through something like this, a question and answer period in their own head. This one was just a little public, that's all...

Well, let me re-think that, some people just plunge into things without thinking, but Mr. EP is obviously a thinker, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I am enjoying the gentlemen's responses and may start a similar thread for the ladies of this forum!
Thanks Alex for reviving the thread. I, too, definitely want to read the same and understand the experience the ladies go through.

HornyGandelf - there are reasons dome of the membership comment the way they do. After suffering years of the waste of time. That posters like Tobelroney and Joe45 (all his multiple re-entries onto the board). Constant questions that pertain to nothing but are simple there as a waste of time. They never reviewed anyone (kind of the purpose why we are here right). Constant questions on the legalty and morality of what we are all doing kinda of get to you and grates you once you are there. Still think that how those guys got their sexual gratification or their kicks. Glad they are gone. But then another one surfaces. Until the mods IP ban them as a returning. Banned poster speculation by membership remains. Why because many of us have seen this shit soooooo many times. It's annoying and not comical or informative.
I still can't grasp the understanding how someone can torment you guys on a discussion forum for years when the power to post, the power to write, to power to share your opinions are in your own hands. As to time wasted, to me, nothing is time wasted when I discuss on a forum whether is on important matter or pointless garbage. I commit so and so hours to browse and read these forums, and whatever happens during these ours, are my responsibilities. Not only do I learn new things from time to time, at least I learn to type better and use words I never used before. Maybe you're just the half empty cup type of guy and never see that every thing you do in your life, there is at least some positive side to it, be it how negative it is, and that is learning.

There is a saying from antiquity, no man steps into the same river twice - as both the man and the river have changed. Even though we try to think otherwise, nothing stays the same, it is ever moving. Even sitting still, you change. Everything you do has an aspect of change to you and you have an aspect to change others in your interaction.

Now I realize many chuckle at that for this thread, but it is true nonetheless. However, it doesn't have to mean we change much. My situation (wants, needs, why) seems to be a bit different than what I read here from most of you on perb, but when reduced/normalized, we all seem to have a similar need being met on either side of the transaction. I am only concerned for those where the concept of that reality is blurred, or on the other end, they can or will not perceive that all of us client or SP are just people, with all the facets of everyday people everywhere. There are troubled people out there, everywhere.

I would think most importantly for the OP - be sure you are self assessing all the time to examine if what you are doing is healthy for you. I suspect there are people on here whom are not, so be aware of yourself and what you do.
Thank you for this wonderful advice. I am always cautious about trying new things where I imagine that in the long run, the bad will outweigh the good. I've been addicted to smoking and gambling and quit completely, so I thought it would be wise to know what it is like on the other side before getting into it.

the bad part is if you do find yourself getting emotionally attached to the girls, where you think about them away from sessions and it tears at your heart strings with similar feelings you would normally get from potential love interest relationships
Now, that is messed up and yes I do wonder and worry about that sometimes.
 

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I would like to see contributions to these questions, they are thought provoking, and let's face it, having repeated sexual interactions in a 'pay for play' setting would have to have some affect on both parties.

Positively? Do you feel more comfortable talking to women after frequently visiting your favorite SP(s)?


Having worked as an escort did produce a change in the way I interacted with men. Before escorting I was an insatiable flirt, but after I found myself pulling back and not using my feminine wiles (which were more instinctual than contrived) when conversing. I think I became more alert to the fact that it is unfair to tease if I had no intention of following through.

Psychologically and/or physically? Do you feel that you are more manlier? Your sexual techniques got better?


I liked the positive reinforcement, that probably goes both ways, two people intent on impressing each other pay a lot of compliments, and it made me feel sexier. I learned a whole lot of ways to give hand jobs, every guy has a special way of doing it...that was enlightening. In the beginning, (way back when), it was pretty standard procedures (no daty, kissing, digits etc) when the menu increased I found there were a lot of things I didn't like, but put up with as it became expected, but eventually I had to bow out, as the wear and tear on an older body was more than I could take. Not a lot of men are really good at daty, or digits, and it was getting harder to smile and pretend.

Negatively? Aside from burning a whole in your wallet, do you feel or think that an average women can no longer satisfy you? Do you feel that you will be expecting escort level service from average women?

On occasion I have eventually told a lover that I was previously an escort and it seemed to change the tempo, it was like 'game on' and suddenly I was expected to perform instead of being a mutual participant.

Negatively, I think it might have interfered with my ability to have normal sex with a lover. I can get too analytical, especially when they pull the 'moves' I recognize, and I just hate when a guy expects you to cum in the first few minutes, you know it is distracting to have someone stare in your face trying to make you cum, it kills the mood.

Guys talk about escorts going through mechanically, 'do this, and then this and then, this', but maybe guys who see escorts get into the same rut. Sometimes, it is so much about doing everything it gets too frantic and neither party can focus on the actual pleasure, but it ends up a game of scoring points "how many times did you cum?" I don't even care if I cum, I can do that any day of the week by myself, many, many times. Having sex with another person is more about stuff I can't do for myself.

I used to look at escorting as a means for a guy to get some relief and a woman to earn some extra cash, and I used to believe it was just an occasional thing men would do, but the scene seems to have changed to where it is gradually becoming the primary means of a man to have a sexual interaction with a woman (Japan for example). I do wonder if pooning, regularly, affects a man's interactions with his SO
 

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I hope this ends your suspicion because behind all this, I'm just laughing at how idiotic you sound thinking I'm joe45 (yes I've heard of him).
Not so fast, joe isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. If you're really not him than perhaps you could prove it by answering the following skill testing question.

6 x 14 / 6 + 48 -14
 
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