Thanks. I worked hard at that. It isn't my intent to take sides, or self promote. I understand BOTH the points of view here.
It's called dispassionate discourse. It's not rocket surgery!
Deposits & E-Transfers
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It's called dispassionate discourse. It's not rocket surgery!
If you have done your research on the girl (even better if she is in red), than Erica’s scenario should be the minimum a guy should commit to...
To the ladies:
Let's say you get a deposit from a customer, he has to cancel last minute due to one of those act of god situations, through no fault of his own (no my dog ate my homework type excuses) and can show proof, if necessary. Do you a) keep the deposit as compensation, b) allow him to use it to book another appointment, or c) refund the deposit if another appointment is not in the cards?
Let's say you get a deposit from a customer, he has to cancel last minute due to one of those act of god situations, through no fault of his own (no my dog ate my homework type excuses) and can show proof, if necessary. Do you a) keep the deposit as compensation, b) allow him to use it to book another appointment, or c) refund the deposit if another appointment is not in the cards?
2 different things
First. I don't like nor want to do deposit with unknown (to me) SPs. Mainly because I run the risk of losing $, but it also shows my full name on the transfer.
That being said, I have done etransfers for my entire session (when I didnt have canadian $ on me) with some SPs I have seen a few times. For example, I do etransfer with 4151 group as I feel comfortable with them and visited many times.
I can see hesitations from married pooners without separation bank accounts - it will show up funny on statements.
Different topic.
As some mentioned above, touring SPs need to look at their costs (flights and hotels) as investments.
I have no issue with asking for a small deposit as a commitment to show up for an appointment for the 1st time client (it is up to the client to send or not - with password), but I wouldn't like it if a SP say I am spending this much time or money to be ready for the appointment so I need $ up front. (Even tho it may be the same thing but worded differently)
SPs are in business to make money. They need to not cry over their investment if and when it doesn't turn out just like any other business.
And also, we pooners do need to honor appointments if we made them. I hear there are a fair share of no shows in the business.
First. I don't like nor want to do deposit with unknown (to me) SPs. Mainly because I run the risk of losing $, but it also shows my full name on the transfer.
That being said, I have done etransfers for my entire session (when I didnt have canadian $ on me) with some SPs I have seen a few times. For example, I do etransfer with 4151 group as I feel comfortable with them and visited many times.
I can see hesitations from married pooners without separation bank accounts - it will show up funny on statements.
Different topic.
As some mentioned above, touring SPs need to look at their costs (flights and hotels) as investments.
I have no issue with asking for a small deposit as a commitment to show up for an appointment for the 1st time client (it is up to the client to send or not - with password), but I wouldn't like it if a SP say I am spending this much time or money to be ready for the appointment so I need $ up front. (Even tho it may be the same thing but worded differently)
SPs are in business to make money. They need to not cry over their investment if and when it doesn't turn out just like any other business.
And also, we pooners do need to honor appointments if we made them. I hear there are a fair share of no shows in the business.
Very well said!
I think that is just the cost of doing business, if it’s a risk a lady cannot take then perhaps she should stay local and not be touring.
No shows happen on both sides, even the most reputable SWs ditch and no show some times.
Also realistically I do not think any SW would a refund a deposit due to a cancelation. Perhaps they might credit you on your next booking but even that can be a long shot.
That's a very good example :thumb:
Interesting read and shows what a lot of touring ladies have to put up with when booking longer sessions. If guys are serious about seeing a touring SP, ponying up a 25% deposit to guarantee their spot especially for longer dates. If the visiting SP doesn't get the deposit, the session should not be considered confirmed.
mother's, brother's, cousin's best friend; I sure hope the excuses are never that contrived.
I think Priya, is making potential Clients aware, of what She'll require to make a Booking with her .
And, She's looking for some Feedback, on that necessary requirement ?
Thanks to Erica, for an insightful Reply, for anyone having a tough Time connecting the Dots !
On why a Lady, would want to take, this approach ?
It's really about, Clients commiting to an Appointment, They arranged . Try cancelling on your Dentist, without 24 Hours Notice, and see what happens ?
Just to clarify, We're talking about reputable, well respected, well Reviewed Ladies .
Not unknown, Fly by Night Scammers, You found on some other Site ?
IMHO, It's not just limited, to "Travelling Ladies" ?
Any Ladies, who share an Incall, are pretty much in the same Boat in regards to possible "No Shows" ?
We can all thank the less than chivalrous Characters, such as the One, in Post #33 for creating this Situation ?
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?238079-Duo-with-Selena-Latina-and-Tia-Luxx/page3
Selena gave Him, two chances, and He cancelled both Times 5 minutes before the Appointment ? Now, that's a WOT !
Please give Me an Example, of any of these ?
A Lawyer, who won't require a Retainer ?
A Contractor, who'll start your Renovation, without a Deposit ?
A Hospital, that will Admit You, without prove of Coverage ?
All pretty much, the same Business Model ?
I'll leave You, with one last Example, that's really not much different ?
I usually book my Trip south, for early in the New Year, sometime in the Fall to take advantage of some Early-Bird Specials .
The catch is, I've got put down a 10% Deposit, right away !
Fully pay for the Trip, before Christmas .
And, I won't even be sipping any Cervezas, or Margaritas until February .
And We're talking a Trip for 2, for 2 Weeks, costing $5-6K .
Not to mention, if some unforseen Emergency arises, and We have to cancel ?
Shit, I never buy Cancellation Insurance ! LOL
Another, added Cost ?
We all have choices to make...
Just, another One !
Cheers
P.S. And Guys wonder why, some of the Ladies, Double-Book a Time slot ? LOL
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The point is, we don’t sit around in lingerie with vibrators in our asses (not 24/7 anyways)... we shop, we go to the gym, we eat, spa, sleep... it takes two-three hours of our lives to get to the incall then to prepare for a date with you and then you just don’t come??? I could have been enjoying my life. Is it fun getting ready for a date or is it the date itself you enjoy? I mean in real life.. is it packing for a holiday that is fun or is it the holiday?? Is it winding the fishing line onto the fishing reel or is it reeling in the fish that is the fun part?? So basically you have ruined my day and likely my plans for the day, taken up at least TWO HOURS of my time and now I have to pay for the fuel loss or missed appointments I made in my personal life because I made you my priority... and I’m not even getting to have the fun I anticipated. You have ruined my day (for at least that hour). So if you can’t appreciate that and show your SUPPORT, I am happy if you don’t deposit and go elsewhere. I have the best and most respectful clientele because I don’t need shitty ones. It’s a two way street and if you wanna keep it that way you have to pay your taxes
In my totally theoretical example, TIG doesn't ever double book because she comsiders THAT unethical.
A cabbie told me, if you call two cab companies and take the faster one it is, by law, fraud... so that makes “you” fraudulent client lol
Exactly! TIG has been in a position where a client books two SPs on the same day, sends texts to BOTH saying "any chance I can see you earlier?" & then standing her up...in theory.
For me, deposits are not a deal breaker. I will tend to be more lenient with any client who has a glowing reference from another provider, although if I've never met you before, this can still be iffy.
And yes, I would consider a gift card in lieu of an e-transfer if that allows for more anonymity for the client.
At the end of the day, I'm not looking to get rich off of people's deposits. I put a lot of time, love, and care into arranging my dates, and I generally don't book more than one date per day...sometimes two in exceptional cases...so when I arrange to meet someone, I want to know that they're actually going to show up.
As Kamivix pointed out--we love what we do, and it's disappointing when you set up a beautiful scenario for somebody and they don't show up, or they cancel last minute.
I would hope that if someone books with me, they are as excited as I am, and they make a genuine effort to show up. If they can't make it, I would hope that they would let me know with as much notice as possible.
And yes, I would consider a gift card in lieu of an e-transfer if that allows for more anonymity for the client.
At the end of the day, I'm not looking to get rich off of people's deposits. I put a lot of time, love, and care into arranging my dates, and I generally don't book more than one date per day...sometimes two in exceptional cases...so when I arrange to meet someone, I want to know that they're actually going to show up.
As Kamivix pointed out--we love what we do, and it's disappointing when you set up a beautiful scenario for somebody and they don't show up, or they cancel last minute.
I would hope that if someone books with me, they are as excited as I am, and they make a genuine effort to show up. If they can't make it, I would hope that they would let me know with as much notice as possible.
I do make acceptions often, as some perb members already know... if someone politely requests a specific appointment time and gives me the information I request, I do often wave the deposit. I’d rather it all at once anyways... but!! If they clearly don’t respect me or my booking requirements I won’t even answer the request nevermind asking for deposit.
Great insightful Posts, add so much !
Very intriguing at the least, and not to be missed, IMHO ?
What am I missing, around here ?
Cheers
P.S. Just a little more Insight, into why, We're having this Discussion ?
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?237888-Local-SPs-vs-Travelling-SPs&highlight=Travelling+SP
Lalani's Post #3, has some great insight to ponder, of what's really involved to visit a City .
Especially, for "No Show" Clients !
One thing, She may have overlooked to include, was the uncompensated Travel-Time involved, to get to the destination City ?
All of these Ladies, are investing 3-6 Hours each Way, of their own Lives to get here . And not exciting Time I might add, going through Security, and waiting to Board a Plane or a Ferry .
Something, a lot of Men, probably can't appreciate ?
I wonder how many Guys, would Sign-Up for an "Out of Town" Shut-Down Job, that didn't include Travel-Time ? LOL
Exactly my Point !
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An example that is sort of double-booking: once I was having a massage with a woman who answered her phone during the massage, and talked with a guy who wanted to book. She gave him a time that was exactly the time at which my one-hour appointment was to end. After she hung up, I pointed out that she hadn't allowed any time for me to shower, get dressed and get out. She airily said "Oh, he won't show up." Sure enough, he didn't show, at least not at the appointed time. She guessed correctly; how she could have been so sure I don't know. Experience and intuition maybe. Still, I thought it was bad form and kind of rude to me. I liked her massage, and had seen her two or three times, but I never booked with her again after that episode.
Of course it doesn’t - we’re talking the Grammar Queen/Lyrical Genius Miss Phoenix here!
(stated with genuine respect)
I’ve gained much more respect for deposits since following SW’s on social media. Now, I’m sure SOME over-exaggerate to a degree the amount of time lost/wasted but when it’s every single one, you start getting a sense the depth of the problem and the potential impact to attracting more visitors to any particular city.
No doubt there have been some SW thieves as well, but that’s where some research should help you.
No doubt there have been some SW thieves as well, but that’s where some research should help you.
I am actually starting to request deposits for new clients as well. I agree if you are well respected, which you are, then no one needs to worry about your scamming them..... T xWhat a coincidence, I've also just started asking for deposits from new clients. So far I've been thrilled with the very positive reception!
I made a totally discreet and nondescript email address for clients to send either an etransfer or an amazon gift card. Very easy! Sure a few people will balk at that, but you still won't be losing as much as you would through last-minute cancellations. Plus you are well respected, so anyone who thinks you're going to ruin your reputation by running away with their 50 dollar deposit is crazy.
I'm so happy that I'm seeing this becoming a trend among providers. It really changes your entire day when you don't have to worry about your next client bailing at the last minute. I wish I had done this ages ago!
Good luck to you
