Death - Is that it or is there an "After Life?"
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There was an Eastern Airlines flight that crashed into the Everglades in the early 70’s killing 101 passengers and crew. Parts from the crashed plane eventually ended up on another Lockheed 1011 aircraft in the Eastern fleet and crew members began seeing apparitions of the dead captain and flight engineer on other flights.
The story is well documented in a book called the Ghost of Flight 401.It was thought that the crash was so sudden certain crew members had trouble passing on to the next life and were often seen on other Eastern Flights. In some cases crew members reported that the ghosts of the dead crew would speak to them and then just vanish into thin air.
The story is well documented in a book called the Ghost of Flight 401.It was thought that the crash was so sudden certain crew members had trouble passing on to the next life and were often seen on other Eastern Flights. In some cases crew members reported that the ghosts of the dead crew would speak to them and then just vanish into thin air.
About 10 years ago when I was living in an older house in east van I frequently saw an apparition of a brown guy wandering around.
I didn't know that take8easy used to frequent East Vancouver about 10 years ago.
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I really don't know what yo believe. When I was 14 yrs old my aunt bought a house in Alberta sometime in the spring. She would hear what she thought sounded like a baby crying at all odd times of the day and night. Her and her husband would get up and search high and low and could never locate the source, suspecting a cat or air in a pipe somewhere.....something. Her husband didn't hear it at first, but eventually he also began to hear this odd sound. Over the next few weeks the sound became less frequent and moved to the back of their minds. Anyway, in the fall my family was making a big move and we visited my aunt on the way to our new home. My black labrador liked this certain spot under the small deck off the front of the house. I remember it plain as day, she was obsessed, constantly sniffing and searching. One time I saw she was digging under the deck, so I ran over to stop her. When I glanced at the whole she had dug, this perfect little circle caught my eye. I picked it up, cleaned it off, and thought it was pretty cool that I had found this beautiful little baby ring. It seemed of somewhat good quality, heavy with lots of engravings. When I went inside to show everybody, my aunt and uncle freaked out a little lol. They did sell the house shortly after, but NOT because of this lol. I was also raised deep in the boreal forest and spent lots of time in the wilderness. I've had...experiences out there I can not explain either.
No I just left him alone. He never bothered me or seemed to acknowledge me either. Probably best that way. I don't feel its a good idea to mess around with spirits. If I was to reach out to one, I think it could possibly attract others who aren't nearly as benevolent as he seemed to be. I'll just stay in my lane and they can stay in their lane.
I believe self preservation knows no bounds—maybe not even our understanding of the laws of physics. I also believe in the laws of physics and that our most pressing instinct, to survive, coupled with our tendency to question and create leads us to believe in the intangible.
To put this into perspective..lets say someone has brain damage to their thalamus and/or their hippocampus. This will likely result in memory impairment. But yet the brain damaged person still has a soul.
So when the brain completely ceases functioning at death, is it not possible the soul can continue on, without the memories?
Currently the general opinion in cognitive neuroscience is the brain produces the mind. But we're restricted at studying consciousness at an in depth level because of both the limits in technology and our own limits in how we, as humans, perceive reality. Our reality is nothing more than what each of our individual cognition/perception systems allow us to experience.
There seems to be a fairly common experience that they see a bright light at the end of a long tunnel and they feel loved like never before. Some report seeing dead relatives, angels or Jesus. So I'm wondering, what do buddhists or muslims report after an NDE (near death experience)?
If a mosquito lands on my arm I just smack it. End of mossie. Why do we think homo sapiens is any different? The earth has been around for around 4.7 billion years. Homo sapiens for 100,000 years or so. Let's put that into perspective. If we imagine that the earth has been in existence for one day, homo sapiens has been here for 18 seconds. Given that 99.9% of species that ever lived are now extinct, why do we think we are so different? What happened to homo erectus, homo neanderthalus, homo australis etc? Did they have life after death? Did they think to ask the question? Asking for a friend.
Ya, and like they had MTV, Netflix, Google, Facebook, and Youtube.
tech lives matter—in the afterlife.
tech lives matter—in the afterlife.
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Of course, cogniitive neuroscience changes as fast as psychology. Studies have shown that other organs may also carry "memories", such as the heart. Possibly explaining why organ transplant can have some unusual side effects. As someone who has had a near death experience coupled with a TBI, I have spent over a decade talking with psychiatrists, psychologists, neurologists, neuro-psychiatrists, etc. In the end we always come to the same conclusion, we just don't know much about consciousness yet.
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Either way...I'm still happy I'm here lol. It's funny how tragedy can sometimes make your life better. I really learned a lot about myself in that whole process.....it helped me be more accepting and understanding of others as well.
One of my closet interests (aside from weird sexy shit), is patching together nuggets from various disciplines to better understand how the mind works, and how we can be conscious and self-aware.
There is tons of neuroscience research that tell us about synapses, brain region functions, etc. Yet the binary-computer brain model falls short for me. There’s gotta be more at play than mbps to achieve consciousness. The multidisciplinary Cognitive Sciences approach hasn’t broken through to the bigger understanding of mind and consciousness yet. At least there’s an attempt, but the 6 disciplines are all kind of mired in their own baggage, and collaboration does not guarantee cognition if they are not asking the right questions, looking under the right rocks, and cross-functionally innovating their research methods and hypothesis testing. I see additive activity, but we need multiplication or better.
One avenue that always perks my interest is when scientists consider the brain as an analogue field generator with binary elements, rather than a binary machine that is completely predictable.
Hmmmm, keeps my spirit alive and hopeful.
For a secular point of view, consciousness arises from "rates" of things happening. Vast numbers of brain neurons communicate and so consciousness happens. A faster computer with more circuits, a consciousness arises, not about what humans are trying to compute but just raw consciousness. If you will, what would you be conscious of if deprived of your 5 senses and perhaps the sixth sense of extra sensory perception that psychological experiments have to control for. If you can accept the idea of "rates" of things giving rise to consciousness, consider the astronomical rates of electrons orbiting the atom in all the matter in the universe.
