I was surprised there was no comment here about the defection of David Emerson. Smart, competent, knowledgeable - but a complete opportunistic fucking piece of shit with no ethics. I'd like to see someone sue him for fraud. He had all those pamphlets printed, attended all-candidates meetings, defended the Libs and claimed the Conservatives were evil, mean and nasty. Two weeks later he's one of them. Fuck off, asshole. If the Libs had won he'd still be one of them. This shows a total lack of ethics from him and Harper. Yeah, but they'll do things differently. Elected Senate my ass. Bunch of unprincipled bastards.
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...and I recall the Conservatives actually calling Belinda Stronach a "whore" when she defected. Which one is the bigger whore? No question --- at least she stayed with the tories for more than a year before her divorce.
I hope that Emmerson has to pay the constituency association out of his own pocket.
I hope that Emmerson has to pay the constituency association out of his own pocket.
Think for a second....Would you rather Harper put in place someone not qualified to do the job???
Just because they "Were in the party".
Give both of them credit for being able to work together picking the best person for the job and for not being to concided to screw the country.
The people that voted for Emmerson should be proud that their vote put in place the most qualified person for the job.
Ok let the slamming of my post begin...
Just because they "Were in the party".
Give both of them credit for being able to work together picking the best person for the job and for not being to concided to screw the country.
The people that voted for Emmerson should be proud that their vote put in place the most qualified person for the job.
Ok let the slamming of my post begin...
I'm sure that will happen.napcodog said:Ok let the slamming of my post begin...
not so sure about that happeningnapcodog said:
My take.
Crossing the floor should require a by-election. We can then do away with this BS from all the parties. I'm sure the crazies will come up will all kinds of reasons that it is worse for Harper and Emerson to do this than Martin and Stronach but in my books it is equally bad. Having said that.....I think Emerson will do a good job and am glad that this happened.
RM
Napcodog..............You should stop SHOUTING with your verbal garbage! The people in his riding didn't elect him based on his qualifications..............if you know anything about the general DEMOGRAPHIC profile of his riding you might realize that the people living there are generally "centre and/ or left" in terms of their politics. So, it's really YOU who should "Think for a second" before spouting such verbal nonsense
I live in the riding of Emerson, even voted for him too based on the fact he ran as liberal. Had no idea who the candidate was, just wanted to vote liberal. At first, I was po’d, but after some thought, I actually think that it’s a brilliant political move. First off, it does make the tories look hypocritical in poaching a liberal mp. But also, having Emerson become a cabinet minister from the west may help give the west a voice, also may help in securing additional funding for VANOC. In the end, Emerson won’t be able to run as a liberal again in this riding, all the po’d people will probably hate the tories even more and vote liberal next time. So, next election, the liberals secure another riding, afterall, tories don’t have a majority anyway.
argh
I supported Harper - and I especially called Belinda an opportunistic cum bucket - Emerson is no different. If you want to switch, there should be a by-election.
I supported Harper - and I especially called Belinda an opportunistic cum bucket - Emerson is no different. If you want to switch, there should be a by-election.
I agree
If he crossed the floor on a vote on conscience maybe - but he just don't like to loose. I hope the Liberals sue him for the cost of his election. If I had given him a donation I would sue him in small claims court to get it back - he is a fuck!Cock Throppled said:
Also don't forget about Harper's campaign manager! I thought he was going to run a ethical and honest government? Let's have someone who's unelected manage a couple of billion dollars and not have to answer questions in the House of Commons. I'm surprised Modwest hasn't jumped in defending Harper, cause he was all over Martin for Belinda's switch.
I thought he was going to run a ethical and honest government? Let's have someone who's unelected manage a couple of billion dollars and not have to answer questions in the House of Commons. I'm surprised Modwest hasn't jumped in defending Harper, cause he was all over Martin for Belinda's switch. I give Belinda a bit of slack:she was a political newbie, and misjudged the Cons, decided she liked the Libs more, and crossed the floor. I think Emerson is far worse, as an ex-cabinet minister he knew exactly what his party stood for, and if he disagreed with it he should not have run under their banner and taken their money.Ilovethemall said:
The Minister of Public Works(?),well that is absolute bullshit. The Cons loved bitching about government spending in Question Period, what are they going to say when they are questioned on it? Sorry, the Minister is not in the House right now, and he's not going to be in it in the future either. Now Harper has a hatchet man to do all his dirty work who never has to answer for it! Can you say "Taxation without representation" or "Ministerial Accountability"?
Finally, if there's one thing I'm already tired of hearing, it's "Yeah it's wrong that they did that but the Liberals did it too". Harper said "Expect Better", not "They Did It So We Will Too".
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Well, IMHO politics is just a joke! The majority of these politicians are nothing but multi-faced, opportunistic liars/ frauds and thieves. I have never trusted any of them and never will. It doesn't matter which political party you support or don't support because at the end of the day, they're all in it for one thing....................themselves.................!!!!
Only thing anyone can do is just to "take care of yourself" and don't depend on others.......
Fucken jaded perspective but at least it's REAL.
Cheers, Expo
Only thing anyone can do is just to "take care of yourself" and don't depend on others.......
Fucken jaded perspective but at least it's REAL.
Cheers, Expo
What did I tell ya!!
This usually happens after every erection!!
But then Belinda Stronach did the same thing.
This usually happens after every erection!!
But then Belinda Stronach did the same thing.
Emerson's defection different matter
I just wanted to share this letter to the Vancouver Metro that appeared in todays issue.
"Some argue the distinction between Belinda Stronach's defection and David Emerson's. It's been said that Ms. Stronach was an incompetent bimbo crossing the floor in order to get a cabinet seat, while David Emerson was a well-qualified public servant crossing the floor to serve the public better.
Horsefeathers.
The actual distinction is that Belinda Stronach ran and was elected as a progressive Conservative, barely edging out the Liberal candidate in her riding. She tried for many months to work in the regressive Conservative party and found, when forced to confront the prospect, she could not stomach the idea of a government composed of her Conservative colleagues. She changed sides on a matter of principle.
Mr. Emerson, on the other hand ran as a Liberal in a historically NDP riding, when less than 20 per cent voted Conservative in the last election.
The best possible light that can be put on Mr. Emerson's defection is that he considers himself so important that Canada must not be deprived of his wisdom in cabinet.
It is certain that many people who voted for Mr. Emerson did so because they felt he was the best hope for defeating the Conservatives.
If Mr. Emerson really had a conversion on the road to Ottawa, he has no honourable choice other than to resign and run again in a byelection.
CASPAR DAVIS
Victoria"
I just wanted to share this letter to the Vancouver Metro that appeared in todays issue.
"Some argue the distinction between Belinda Stronach's defection and David Emerson's. It's been said that Ms. Stronach was an incompetent bimbo crossing the floor in order to get a cabinet seat, while David Emerson was a well-qualified public servant crossing the floor to serve the public better.
Horsefeathers.
The actual distinction is that Belinda Stronach ran and was elected as a progressive Conservative, barely edging out the Liberal candidate in her riding. She tried for many months to work in the regressive Conservative party and found, when forced to confront the prospect, she could not stomach the idea of a government composed of her Conservative colleagues. She changed sides on a matter of principle.
Mr. Emerson, on the other hand ran as a Liberal in a historically NDP riding, when less than 20 per cent voted Conservative in the last election.
The best possible light that can be put on Mr. Emerson's defection is that he considers himself so important that Canada must not be deprived of his wisdom in cabinet.
It is certain that many people who voted for Mr. Emerson did so because they felt he was the best hope for defeating the Conservatives.
If Mr. Emerson really had a conversion on the road to Ottawa, he has no honourable choice other than to resign and run again in a byelection.
CASPAR DAVIS
Victoria"
If that sperm-gargling twat Harper offers 30 or so more cabinet positions to Liberals, he could have a majority government!
Is Emerson actually naive enough to think people voted for him, the man? Crossing the floor two weeks after an election, one where you went in with your eyes wide open is not just unethical, it's undemocratic.
Good luck in a year or so when you need to run again. Better move to Alberta, Emerson. That's the only place you have any chance of being re-elected.
Is Emerson actually naive enough to think people voted for him, the man? Crossing the floor two weeks after an election, one where you went in with your eyes wide open is not just unethical, it's undemocratic.
Good luck in a year or so when you need to run again. Better move to Alberta, Emerson. That's the only place you have any chance of being re-elected.
I have a friend who extoled the great virtues of that fuckwad Harper to me during the election....how ethical he was blah blah blah.
He even made a point of saying how he is for elected people in cabinet only etc etc. and how with the Cons in it will be a true gov. for the people and how we will have such a great and ethical leader.
The man was not even sworn into office yet and he had already called that asswipe Emerson to defect.
Emerson should be sued for the $100K he stole from the Libs and banned from politics for life.
Harper should get a non confidence vote and a forced election for breaking his promises BEFORE he is even sworn in.
I bet if an election was held today he would lose big time.
The people are not happy and Harper has not even been in a week yet....and i will bet this is just a preview of what is to come from that fucking scumbag harper.
Personally i would not piss on harper if he was on fire.
He is the lowest of the low
He even made a point of saying how he is for elected people in cabinet only etc etc. and how with the Cons in it will be a true gov. for the people and how we will have such a great and ethical leader.
The man was not even sworn into office yet and he had already called that asswipe Emerson to defect.
Emerson should be sued for the $100K he stole from the Libs and banned from politics for life.
Harper should get a non confidence vote and a forced election for breaking his promises BEFORE he is even sworn in.
I bet if an election was held today he would lose big time.
The people are not happy and Harper has not even been in a week yet....and i will bet this is just a preview of what is to come from that fucking scumbag harper.
Personally i would not piss on harper if he was on fire.
He is the lowest of the low
Unfortunately the 2006 election results, when compared with the results from 2004, seem to suggest just that. Vancouver-Kingsway is traditionally a left-leaning riding (though not to quite the same degree as Libby Davies' Vancouver-East riding). In 2004, Emerson beat Waddell by a mere 1,351 votes, or 3.2%. Given the strong anti-Liberal sentiments surrounding the 2006 election, and the fact that the Conservatives gained only negligible ground in this riding, one would have thought Waddell would have pulled ahead, but he didn't. To the contrary, he actually lost to Emerson by 4,592 votes, or 10%. Given Emerson's excellent track record as both a cabinet minister and a representative of the Vancouver-Kingsway riding (and the City of Vancouver, VANOC, etc.), it would appear that constituents were indeed voting for David Emerson "The Man" rather than David Emerson "The Liberal."dexi said:
2004 Results:
Emerson 17,267 40.4%
Waddell 15,916 37.3%
Johl 7,037 16.5%
2006 Results:
Emerson 20,062 43.5%
Waddell 15,470 33.5%
Wong 8,679 18.8%
My feelings towards his defection are mixed, however. I recall reading a Jan 24 Globe and Mail editorial exploring the issue of whether Vancouver voters had effectively screwed themselves by failing to vote in a Conservative candidate. I agree that a lack of representation in the House could have serious negative ramifications for the City of Vancouver. More likely than not, David Emerson's shift to the Conservative party will in fact benefit Vancouver in many ways. Emerson likened his shift to remaining on a corporate board of directors even when the CEO has been fired and replaced by the shareholders. Not a bad analogy, in my opinion.
On the other hand, I feel that the Vancouver-Kingsway electorate was, in effect, duped into choosing a Conservative candidate. Although I have speculated that it was Emerson "The Man," rather than Emerson "The Liberal" who was voted in, that certainly can't be the case for everyone who cast a ballot in his favour. In addition, although Emerson was (and is) very well liked by his constituents, I do have my doubts that he would have ben re-elected had he run his campaign as a Conservative.
The only fair way to settle this issue would be, as stated by previous posters, to hold a by-election. Harper and Emerson should stop defending their actions and allow the voters their rights as Canadian citizens to make a truly informed decision.
We'll every one should be happy now as they have a new Conservative Government that has started to act like Liberals.
I agree with you Jodie, I'm in the same riding and voted for Emerson as I was not impressed by the Conservative or NDP candidates. I think Emerson is the best candidate and it would be a shame to waste his obvious talents in oppsosition. I would have voted for him even if he were NDP.
BTW Jodie - You look HOT!!!!
BTW Jodie - You look HOT!!!!
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