I've been trying to ignore this story since it began. But it seems that every time I hear something about it on tv or the radio, something strikes a nerve. It seems that there are alot of people that are genuinely pissed at what this guy did. They feel like they were robbed of their vote. And the thing that strikes a nerve is Emerson's response to all of the protesting. He shrugs it off. Laughs in the face of the very people that originally put their faith in him as their representative. What a fucking ass. As far as I can tell, he can't be recalled. He has to resign if he is to leave office early. And he knows it. This seems to be a rather massive hole in our system, wouldn't ya say?
David Emerson - BBBJ This!
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The whole system is set up toooo F**k us dry,while protecting there asses...
I give up on our leaders,it just seems that who ever get's in that they are only there to line there pocket and help corp. buddies out....
I give up on our leaders,it just seems that who ever get's in that they are only there to line there pocket and help corp. buddies out....
I like Emerson. First of all, he's not a politician - never was, and was lured by the now "Holier-Than-Thou" Liberal Party to perform some real administrative work, in an "administration" that was filled with corrupt over-spenders, and their cronies. Everybody was on the take - Emerson was an attempt to change the face of the party. He was considered new blood if you will, in contrast to the fuckheads that permeated the party.
So an election comes around, and he was suddenly faced with the prospect of sitting among a bunch of loser idiots (aka Liberals) for an indefinite term, essentially bored to tears. Harper came along and offered him a excellent opportunity to serve his country, in a manner he originally intended to, so he grabbed it. There are no rules that prevented him from doing so. The ethics or optics may not look so good, but look who he was divorcing himself from...
So an election comes around, and he was suddenly faced with the prospect of sitting among a bunch of loser idiots (aka Liberals) for an indefinite term, essentially bored to tears. Harper came along and offered him a excellent opportunity to serve his country, in a manner he originally intended to, so he grabbed it. There are no rules that prevented him from doing so. The ethics or optics may not look so good, but look who he was divorcing himself from...
Wouldn't it be refreshing if the best person for the job actually got it?
Ah democracy in action - the lesser of evils.
Oh right sorry we are only a democracy once every 4 years (when there is an election) the rest of the time they do what the boss tells em too.
So in the end does it really matter?
Ah democracy in action - the lesser of evils.
Oh right sorry we are only a democracy once every 4 years (when there is an election) the rest of the time they do what the boss tells em too.
So in the end does it really matter?
With all the shit going on over this one, calls for resignation etc., the Belinda Stonach event has been quickly forgotten by the name callers. She was even a bigger deal cause she ran for the leadership of the PC part before leaving for the liberals where she was given a cabinet post! The same group of people were likely strangely silent when it suited them so their cries of foul play and the system needs to be fixed seem a little empty to me.
Maury, reddog and logsplitter.....beers are on me!
I find the irony of any liberal or liberal supporter whining about ethics fucking hilarious. To quote Robin Williams, "It's like a leper talking about skin care".
David Emerson's decision to join the Conservative party did nothing to shift the balance of power, was done after the election and was by all accounts above board. This is in sharp contrast to that power whore Stronach....she'd be better off sucking Bill Clinton's cock then sitting as an MP.
I find the irony of any liberal or liberal supporter whining about ethics fucking hilarious. To quote Robin Williams, "It's like a leper talking about skin care".
David Emerson's decision to join the Conservative party did nothing to shift the balance of power, was done after the election and was by all accounts above board. This is in sharp contrast to that power whore Stronach....she'd be better off sucking Bill Clinton's cock then sitting as an MP.
I'm just glad that useless seat-warmer Ian Waddell didn't get in. Liberal/conservative whutteva...just switch 'em around every few years to clean out the dead wood, imho.
Cross the Floor -- Face the Voters
I've heard that legislation is coming that will force a byelection if an MP crosses the floor.
I like Emerson as well, and I believe he has the smarts to help resolve the Softwood issue, so having him as a conservative doesn't bother me.
Vancouver-Kingsway is a funny mix of flat-earth socialists and immigrant entrepreneurs, so it will be interesting to watch this play out.
I've heard that legislation is coming that will force a byelection if an MP crosses the floor.
I like Emerson as well, and I believe he has the smarts to help resolve the Softwood issue, so having him as a conservative doesn't bother me.
Vancouver-Kingsway is a funny mix of flat-earth socialists and immigrant entrepreneurs, so it will be interesting to watch this play out.
i could be totally wrong but i think in the case of belinda the people of that riding voted more for the person as opposed to the party. evidence of this could be seen in her re-election. plus she stayed on with the cons. for a while. however it became evident that her social ideals did not match the party she was in. she said from the begininng that she was for gay union and pro choice, two very strong issues.logsplitter said:
in this case with emmerson i think the people voted more for the party, especially if you were an ndp voter, you didn't vote for emmerson, you voted for the party to keep the cons out. i don't think when belinda was elected that you had ndp voters voting for the cons to keep the libs out.
by the way, could you please clarify how emmersons floor cross was any less of power move then belinda's, because he quite obviously gained more power by doing so did he not?
The people in his riding went from having no voice in Ottawa to speak of to having a cabinet minister as their voice. Really - can't you see the benefit of that? Before getting in a hissy fit - wait until parliament resumes this week and we see just what the Con's are going to do and are made of. You just might be pleasantly surprised. I personally think it can only be an improvement over the cr@p we've been getting for the last 8 years.
Not you Smackyo!smackyo said:
It comes down to this....smackyo said:
Martin had Belinda cross the floor to save his government (lots of good that did). Belinda ran for leader of the cons not too long before.
Harper had Emerson cross the floor to serve the country. Emerson just recently joined the libs and never ran for the leadership.
There is a difference (although I am sure not many will see it or admit it).
Now flame away but no way anyone will convince me that Martin wasn't a scumbucket.
IMO, the law should be changed. No crossing the floor without a byelection. Currently, the practise is legal although distasteful.
RM
gravitas said:
Yes done a whole 2 weeks after the election if that's not a power whore, I don't know what is?
Uhh how is she a power whore? She did at least sit in opposition before she became a cabinet minister unlike Emerson. She also had that lame excuse that she couldn't work with Harper anymore, what's Emerson's? His best reponse has been he knows what the people of Vancouver Kingsway want! Geez so I suppose those 500 people marching against him are all just hacks right? rick hunter said:Yes done a whole 2 weeks after the election if that's not a power whore, I don't know what is?
And they should all still .......
RESPECT THE COCK!!!! - Frank TJ Mackey, Magnolia
rick hunter said:Geez so I suppose those 500 people marching against him are all just hacks right?
My guess is
20% actually employed by the NDP
35% Union members
15% Liberals
10% actual voters from V-K
15% standard left wing accounting error
5% made a wrong turn and got stuck
I know of course there was of course some hacks but the march was organized by a conservative! :Rain Man said:
I don't think the NPD and Liberal would be wasting money and time flying a plane and putting up lawn signs would they? That one seat isn't going to affect the balance in parliament anyways. Oh well he's got max one year left and then they will boot his sorry ass out!The point I was making here was simply regarding Emerfuck's reaction to the protests against him, and not whether his move was right or wrong.
Who is this idiot??agentman said:
But if he does not take their calls and in general ignores them - they still have no voice, right?dr_pepper said:
Maury Beniowski said:I like Emerson. First of all, he's not a politician - never was, and was lured by the now "Holier-Than-Thou" Liberal Party to perform some real administrative work, in an "administration" that was filled with corrupt over-spenders, and their cronies. Everybody was on the take - Emerson was an attempt to change the face of the party. He was considered new blood if you will, in contrast to the fuckheads that permeated the party.
So an election comes around, and he was suddenly faced with the prospect of sitting among a bunch of loser idiots (aka Liberals) for an indefinite term, essentially bored to tears. Harper came along and offered him a excellent opportunity to serve his country, in a manner he originally intended to, so he grabbed it. There are no rules that prevented him from doing so. The ethics or optics may not look so good, but look who he was divorcing himself from...
I agree with your assessment Maury. Emerson is my MP and as much as I hate the corrupt, power hungry Liberals I voted for him as he was the best candidate out of about a dozen in this riding, not due to his party. I could give a fuck what party he's in. I fail to see where he did anything illegal. It may come as a surprise to a few people out here but this whole effort to out Emerson is being pushed forward by two local NDP MPs since the NDP would have won the seat had it not gone Liberal. I would rather have an MP who is in the governing party represent me than some joker on the backbench who just sits there doing nothing.
Not hacks - just dumb left wing shit disturbers doing what the NDP told them to do.rick hunter said:
