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Aerts

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Having just got out of a relationship with a single mother, I can honestly say that there was no positive aspect to the relationship for me as far as her being a mother was concerned. I know that there are probably a number of SP on here who are single mothers----this thread is not for you, I don't want to offend you, so you should probably leave now.

I am a single, white, childless man with a decent annual income ($110-150K) in his mid 30's. My last girlfriend was new to Canada (black girl from Dominican republic) who had a child from a previous relationship. I think it went on so long because she started putting out from the get go (single mothers are known to weaponize sex as a manipulative tool, it makes perfect sense to me) and as we all know, it can be difficult to end a relationship even if you know it's doomed. I felt like I was treated like an ATM, and this woman clearly showed some golddigger leanings. I mean I get that women want resources, but I felt that I was seen as a walking ATM (this could be cultural thing, because of the white western man/black 3rd world woman dynamic). I also felt like she was constantly trying to get pregnant (this blows me away since she already had a child), and I could never trust her in this regard.

Single mothers are always short on time, have little to no money, have reduced education/career success because of what they had to sacrifice to raise their child, and a busted up body to boot (even a very attractive woman, once she has kids, is in an inferior physical state compared to before she gave birth). I have always question the judgement of a woman who had sex with a bad boy and got dumped, then had the kid. Or alternately, had sex with a great guy and didn't want to stay with him, then had the child. Either way, she has proved poor judgement in serious matters. Speaking of judgement, this woman had a history of adultery. I am not sure if this is part of the desperation of a single mom trying to find a man, or a cultural thing, or just bad judgement. But it definitely made me question things between us.

I will also add that she wasn't exactly close to her child, yet professed to love it. I don't understand why a woman who cares so much about her child would rather spend her time out on her back getting railed by a guy like me than taking care of her spawn. What is she going to do to me when times get tough?

I cared about this woman and still do, but I never felt I could trust her and that is in no small part to the single motherhood thing. These women are in a financially desperate situation, have a poor track record of decision making ability, and by default force their new mates into some sort of paternal role over their child. The thought of being cucked into supporting this woman, her child, and her impoverished family back home did not sit well with me at all. My friends told me I was insane to keep banging her, but the little head kept winning.

The Alpha fucks/Beta bucks dynamic is foundational to the whole single moms dating scene. Girl in her 20's parties and fucks alpha males, gets used up and possibly pregnant, in 30's looks for beta male with steady job to latch onto (and in the case of single moms, cuck into raising her kid(s).

I will also add that I have seen at least two of my friends get fucked over by single moms in the last two years. They both met said single moms, fell in love, got them pregnant, had children with them, and then both relationships ended within 6 months of the children being born (ended by the woman). To me, this is a evidence of dysfunctional behavioral patterns in the group that can't be denied. These were both good guys with good incomes, and I can't fathom why they both had poor relationship outcomes like this other than the fact that the mothers were manipulative scum.

There is also a mountain of data about single motherhood leading to multiplied chances of criminality, addiction, poverty, early teen sexuality, and all other manner of social problems in the kids. I will not get into this, but the data is out there if you're interested.

I hope to find love one day, but I don't think it will be with a single mom. I don't think I could put myself through that again. Maybe this is more a story about dating immigrant women and the stereotypes about their character, but the single mom aspect seemed more influential to the relationship outcome to me. Good luck to everyone with finding love in 2018!
 

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I've had both good and bad experiences meeting single moms. One of them reminded me of what you have described. She had three kids from either two or three different dads, and seemed to date guys who would get in trouble or spend time in jail. It was a huge red flag for me as I saw her as someone who would just make poor choices in life. Alot of these women don't end up in these positions by accident, but rather a series of bad choices.
 

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Wow! So much stereotyping and pop sociology in this post. It would be interesting to hear the perspectives of SPs or women who lurk on the board and potentially rebut this screed.
 

maniacalone

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Wow! So much stereotyping and pop sociology in this post. It would be interesting to hear the perspectives of SPs or women who lurk on the board and potentially rebut this screed.
Just to add to the stereotyping. Failed to discuss the financial consequences. Child support payments from a you and the 110-150k you earn is a motivation. You dodged a bullet.
 

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Just to add to the stereotyping. Failed to discuss the financial consequences. Child support payments from a you and the 110-150k you earn is a motivation. You dodged a bullet.
That’s the thing... these women are simply predatory.

Fact: they already have a child to support, and have proven they don’t know how to avoid getting pregnant.

All while at the same time begging me to take the condom off. Did I mention how much she pressured me to fuck her raw over the course of our relationship? I refused to do her without a condom, because I’m not playing Russian roulette with a human life. To me, a woman like this (who isn’t on birth control) pressuring a man in my situation to fuck her raw (promising me she won’t get pregnant, which means absolutely fuck all), is nothing short of predacious behaviour.
 

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I sense a lot of pain in this thread, and I empathize with you. However, I would caution against making glaring generalizations about people. I believe this is a case of a highly visible minority overshadowing a silent majority. Most single mothers do not fit the model that you have described. Often times, we must take a very close look at ourselves to understand the role that we play in the demise of relationships. There is no doubt that there are predatory women out there. The key is to not be prey. The sheer fact that you openly advertised your financial affluence to members of this board demonstrate that you place to much onus on that. I'm sure it comes across very clearly to women. Essentially, you are a gazelle in the middle of a herd calling attention to a group of lionesses. No one should ever be able to ascertain your financial status from a far. To do so, makes you attractive to the wrong sort of people. Good luck.
 

Aerts

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I sense a lot of pain in this thread, and I empathize with you. However, I would caution against making glaring generalizations about people. I believe this is a case of a highly visible minority overshadowing a silent majority. Most single mothers do not fit the model that you have described. Often times, we must take a very close look at ourselves to understand the role that we play in the demise of relationships. There is no doubt that there are predatory women out there. The key is to not be prey. The sheer fact that you openly advertised your financial affluence to members of this board demonstrate that you place to much onus on that. I'm sure it comes across very clearly to women. Essentially, you are a gazelle in the middle of a herd calling attention to a group of lionesses. No one should ever be able to ascertain your financial status from a far. To do so, makes you attractive to the wrong sort of people. Good luck.
I never tell women what I make, and I’m not a flashy person. Just putting things in perspective since this an anonymous board where I feel comfortable and I feel that was pertinent to my story. You could be right as to me thinking about this being an observable phenomenon to the women I meet, I have just unfortunately seen enough of the men around me go through divorce/family court that it’s something on my mind when I’m assessing the potential of a relationship. I would attribute it to managing risk.

When it comes to gold diggers, any man who brags about or shows off his money by spending like a drunken sailor is painting himself with blood and jumping into the piranha tank.
I agree. That’s one of many reasons why I don’t behave that way.
 

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This was entertaining!!

No need for me to dissect Aerts whole rant, stereotypical and butt hurt post.
You want to share with a love.com post amongst a poon.com community, you will get a various response.
I feel Aerts was all good in the relationship, slash obvious transaction until the woman stopped putting out like she once did.

Knowing she was an obvious minority from a poor 3rd world country should have been your first clue. This is what they do to survive.
You portray yourself as taking advantage of that and now want to bitch about her not giving you the puss when you want it.
"My friends told me I was insane to keep banging her, but the little head kept winning."
Man Up....get a grip and stop blaming what seemed obvious from the beginning and generalizing a whole denomination. That being of single mothers.
 
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UhOh

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Even if all true it doesn't show you in a very good light. You were aware of all the negatives but hung in there until it no longer benefited you. You were as much a contributor to the problems as she was.

Full disclosure, I've had sex with but never dated single moms.
 

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"I know that there are probably a number of SP on here who are single mothers----this thread is not for you" I'm still struggling to determine who this thread was actually meant for. Maybe the OP feels better after having an opportunity to vent, but this posting has added no value and is seemingly in opposition to the primary objective of this message board. If the intent was to antagonize the SPs here, I think he achieved his goal. :fencing: To be quite honest, I think he may have invariably talked himself out of a number of potential future opportunities to engage with the good ladies of PERB.
 
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tricky thing with single moms, every good relationship requires trust and single moms have the ability from time to time to pull rank on an issue by claiming it is a family issue i.e. mother/child issue and thus not open for discussion

hard part is trusting it is a family issue vs just a way of dominating an issue

of course if it is a family issue, backing off and giving it worthy consideration is probably the right thing to do, just hard to determine if this consideration gets exploitative

probably takes quite a bit more energy to make a relationship like this work, would require quite a giving type of man to make work in most cases

sometimes the baggage factor gets you wondering if it is not better to find someone younger who has a brighter, fresher outlook on life
 

maniacalone

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Even if all true it doesn't show you in a very good light. You were aware of all the negatives but hung in there until it no longer benefited you. You were as much a contributor to the problems as she was.

Full disclosure, I've had sex with but never dated single moms.
No kidding. You are using escorts.
 

UhOh

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No kidding. You are using escorts.
I'm referring to sex with someone I've know or met outside of escorting, women I don't slip an envelope of cash to. When I say "dating" I'm referring to someone I'd consider a girlfriend. The moms I've been with was an occasional get together for something else but ended up with impulses and urges taking over.
I don't ask SP's if they are moms or not, although I usually choose SP's that are unlikely to be moms.
 

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I'm a boomer and more than a few of my friends dated single mom's over the years and some ended up married and some had more kids some didn't.

It's the person, not their situation that mattered.

Peace
MG
 

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It's the person, not their situation that mattered.

Peace
MG
Agreed! Some people can't see past the situation to the person. That's okay. I can understand it but you shouldn't paint all single mom's with that brush.

I am a single Dad. A couple of years after my separation I tried dating. It never worked out because most of the women age (I had my daughter in my late 30's) either had grown kids or never had kids. They were not prepared to share me with my daughter even when I was honest with them and told them right from the get go, that she was my #1 priority.
That is one of the major reasons I turned to pooning. :)
The way I look at it, they missed out on a chance with a great guy (feel free to jump in with all your sarcastic comments ;)) because they could not see past my situation.

Cheers
J
 

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Every person is different.....with their own situations, and happenings in their trail of life.
We all have our own goals, taken from our own life experiences, and some try to apply them with another human being, or partner.....with their own goals.
I've never claimed to be no prophet with all the answers but I believe...

Blending the family, and those life experiences is key....and there must be a desire to make sacrifices from both parties, to attain that common goal.
 

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Look left. Way left.
It's very sad to generalize single moms this way.

It's more about the person than her situation. I see a lot of guys going for single moms because they see them as desperate and an easy piece of ass.
It's always better to be honest about your intentions....... don't be an asshole.
I've had some fun with single moms but was always honest about my intentions. I've made some good friends and occasionally help them out with a ride somewhere or just hang out and do things together. Sometimes we even do a friend's with benefits type of thing if we are in the mood.
Be honest!
 
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