did you have sex before you were cut to compare?
i don't get why you would do it as an adult, i mean you are basically cutting off a piece of your dick.
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i don't get why you would do it as an adult, i mean you are basically cutting off a piece of your dick.
I hear its more healthy.
It reduces the risk of urinary tract infection.
It reduces the risk of penile infection also called balanoposthitis.
It eliminates the need to do it later in life when up to 6% of boys will require a circumcision because of various problems. (When it is done later in life, it is a more costly, difficult, and riskier procedure requiring a general anesthetic, and it is more painful).
It reduces the risk of getting some sexually transmitted diseases including Human Papilloma Virus (HPV), Herpes (HSV-2) and AIDS (HIV).
It reduces the risk of penile cancer and cervical cancer in partners.
Circumcised men have less risk of sexual dysfunction later in life.
But im just worried about the pain !
just think about it, you were born with it.you are going to contact hiv/aids if you aren't safe regardless.
and its easy to keep clean, but if you haven't figure out how to then ouch.
you might want to do it because of the social reasons and i understand that.
Of course I had sex with it before and after. So I'm actually one of the few that have direct comparisons between the two. And I will say the necessity of a foreskin is greatly overrated. If you get the right doctor that leaves you with a lot of inner foreskin, it's fantastic!
Recovery time was approximately 2.5-3 weeks to jerk it again and about 2.5-3 months for actual sex. The sex part mostly due to the inner foreskin swelling that takes a while to subside, not due to pain or discomfort. Stitches were out in about 5-6 days (at my request. I am a very quick healer, any longer and I feared suture tunnels) and I was given a bottle of T3's I never touched. Anaesthesia was local and general.
Three months seems a long time for swelling to go down, even without taking an anti-sweller like Advil.
Not necessarily. Circumcision is like a condom in itself; it reduces your risk of getting HIV, STIs, etc. Therefore it could be the difference between getting a disease and not getting it, regardless of how "safe" one is in other ways. Being circumcised, like putting on a condom, makes you more safe.
A lot of people are born with things they don't like. Some people have skin tags removed. Some people get boob jobs and skin-tucks. I got, in my opinion, a useless piece of excess skin removed. No big deal. My reasons are personal. I will say though that HIV reduction was of no basis for my decision.
you are going to contact hiv/aids if you aren't safe regardless.
and its easy to keep clean, but if you haven't figure out how to then ouch.
you might want to do it because of the social reasons and i understand that.
Before the operation I was what some doctors refer to as 'naturally circumcised', in other words I had a foreskin that was naturally already very short.
Most of these health issues have been put into perspective and are so incredibly rare it seems insane to do such a procedure. For example.
Most urinary tract infections happen in women (90%+) not men. Second it is a very minor issue, easily resolved.
Balanoposthitis is also so rare it is hilarious the medical profession mentions it. Maybe one in ten thousand men will have this, most of those are cured via topical medical ointments.
Most of those problems are mis diagnosis of the above.
Penile cancer is uber rare and alone never fatal. Using this reason means all women should have their breast removed because breast cancer effects one in eight. Penile cancer...fraction of one percent.
Actually many cases of ED are due to lack of sensitivity due to years of being exposed. US has highest ED rates and highest cut rates. Related? Maybe, maybe not.
Again, personal choice over looks - fair enough for an adult. Just the health things are overblown to say the least.
My guess would be, this is more do to the obesity rate.
Same. A couple showers a day never had a problem. Doesn't really seem like a good idea to me, to have my foreskin surgically removed to save 10 seconds each shower in reduced penis cleaning time.
Circumcision is a religion procedure nothing more. Sure some religious people will tell you it isn't, with weak arguments of disease risk.
Basically the same type reasoning why gays shouldn't marry
E.D. is primarily caused by smoking, diabetes (high glycemic diet), cocaine (and extacy), and injuries causing nerve damage. It's ironic that a person would opt for circumcision, rather than change of lifestyle, to avoid E.D.
The male nurse I mentioned was raised around Edmonton in the 60s where most kids had been circumcised and he felt a desire to look like other guys, so he had it done when he got his tonsils out. He said he deeply regretted it.
In the 80s the cost for circumcision at birth was $100, and I was sooo relieved that it was not mandatory anymore, and I wouldn't have to fight with the doctor. When it was automatic the doctors just did it and got paid.
I saw the board they strapped the babies into for the procedure and it looked like a fucking torture device. The lady in the bed next to me had her son done, cause the father wanted it that way.
Our room was next to the room where the procedure was performed. We sat staring at the wall listening to the screams. It was awful. The father didn't stick around for that.
Tough thing about raising a son in a society when there was little information about these things was listening to the wives tales of how to deal with the uncircumcised penis in a small child. The foreskin does not retract for a few years, and there were dire warnings of the dangers in a foreskin that did not retract in X amount of time. Women encouraged me to pull it back daily, during the bath, and warned me of bleeding...yuck! That didn't sound natural!
Then I found an obscure book on the subject and talked to a fellow whose foreskin didn't retract until he was around ten; he suffered no ill effects; I decided to leave well enough alone and focus on teaching my son the importance of washing.
I couldn't talk to my husband, or father, or the doctor, or any number of circumcised men...it was disconcerting.
The male nurse I mentioned was raised around Edmonton in the 60s where most kids had been circumcised and he felt a desire to look like other guys, so he had it done when he got his tonsils out. He said he deeply regretted it.
In the 80s the cost for circumcision at birth was $100, and I was sooo relieved that it was not mandatory anymore, and I wouldn't have to fight with the doctor. When it was automatic the doctors just did it and got paid.
I saw the board they strapped the babies into for the procedure and it looked like a fucking torture device. The lady in the bed next to me had her son done, cause the father wanted it that way.
Our room was next to the room where the procedure was performed. We sat staring at the wall listening to the screams. It was awful. The father didn't stick around for that.
Tough thing about raising a son in a society when there was little information about these things was listening to the wives tales of how to deal with the uncircumcised penis in a small child. The foreskin does not retract for a few years, and there were dire warnings of the dangers in a foreskin that did not retract in X amount of time. Women encouraged me to pull it back daily, during the bath, and warned me of bleeding...yuck! That didn't sound natural!
Then I found an obscure book on the subject and talked to a fellow whose foreskin didn't retract until he was around ten; he suffered no ill effects; I decided to leave well enough alone and focus on teaching my son the importance of washing.
I couldn't talk to my husband, or father, or the doctor, or any number of circumcised men...it was disconcerting.
What would you prefer your vagina to be called?No more than when they call my vagina "pretty". I think it looks adorable when you finish and it retreats into hiding slowly, don't like it don't fuck me
Also this:
http://www.drmomma.org/2012/08/circumserum-renewal-ointment-for.html
is pretty comprehensive on that serum.
As far as that list of benefits, most of those are myths:
It reduces the risk of urinary tract infection - by under 1% in adults, and just over 1% in infants. Woo. How often do you really get UTIs honestly?
It reduces the risk of penile infection also called balanoposthitis - that means redness and swelling and if it happens you put cream on your dick for 2 days like a woman treating a yeast infection
It eliminates the need to do it later in life when up to 6% of boys will require a circumcision because of various problems. (When it is done later in life, it is a more costly, difficult, and riskier procedure requiring a general anesthetic, and it is more painful). - So cut off a piece of everyone in case 6% need it?
It reduces the risk of getting some sexually transmitted diseases including Human Papilloma Virus (HPV), Herpes (HSV-2) and AIDS (HIV) - That is "debated" in Africa and the USA, but has been debunked by MANY peer reviewed studies. The HIV rates in the USA and Africa are among the highest - and something like 75% of adult men are circumcised. HIV shouldn't be a HUGE concern to you if you wear condoms and use them correctly and 75% of North Americans will carry some form of HPV whether it's dormant or not.
It reduces the risk of penile cancer and cervical cancer in partners. - This goes with the HPV one because that's what causes cervical cancer
Circumcised men have less risk of sexual dysfunction later in life. That's the opposite. You have a really thick calloused layer of skin on the head of your penis by the end of your life. If anything, circumcised men need MORE stimulation. Your risk of medical ED is the same
I've got links on all of this, but it's a ton so I really didn't want to bog down the post. If you are interested, a PM is fine
And of course I have to say this: If you want to get it done for YOU that's great - you're an adult that's your right, and I support you completely! But myths like that shouldn't be anyone's reason for a major surgical procedure that removes arguably the most sensitive piece of tissue on the male body - especially if their reason is "I won't get HIV". The foreskin unfolded is the size of a postcard and 44,000 nerve endings. Just REALLY do your research first. That's all I can recommend.
didn`t you read the other thread, pardner?
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?184924-OMG-did-she-just-say-that!-!-!&p=1400724&viewfull=1#post1400724
we are sooooooo on it!!!!!didn`t you read the other thread, pardner?
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?184924-OMG-did-she-just-say-that!-!-!&p=1400724&viewfull=1#post1400724
Has anyone ever called it Joe?Cute, pretty, sexy, tasty, pink
You could call it Joe for all I care, it's still pretty awesome no matter what you wanna name it
Are the CDC religious people:
"Male circumcision reduces the risk that a man will acquire HIV from an infected female partner, and also lowers the risk of other STDs , penile cancer, and infant urinary tract infection.
"For female partners, male circumcision reduces the risk of cervical cancer, genital ulceration, bacterial vaginosis, trichomoniasis, and HPV."
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/prevention/research/malecircumcision/index.html
How about The World Health Organization (W.H.O.):
"There is compelling evidence that male circumcision reduces the risk of heterosexually acquired HIV infection in men by approximately 60%."
http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/malecircumcision/en/
So in biblical times this was done to prevent Hiv or hpv??? :doh:
And if religion hadn't started this tradition, would it be likely at all to recommend this as a preventive medical procedure? :doh:
No its a religious procedure, that people who follow a religion will deny and grasp at straws to validate their beliefs.
Didn't we discuss this months back? In one of your bbfs threads. Where we determined the incredibly low risk statistically for hiv transmission from female to male.
Yet cutting off your foreskin is important for reducing this? Kinda like buying 3 tickets for the super 7 instead of just 2, now your gonna win for sure :clap2:
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Mutilating the genitalia of new-borns who have no say in the matter is barbaric and medically unnecessary. Cleanliness is not an issue if people wash properly and also ensure that the foreskin separates cleanly from the rim of the head. That is an important caveat.Just wondering what are people opinion on this
There are also numerous nerve endings in the foreskin that cut men will not know they've lost. Anybody who want to circumcise themselves in adulthood is free to do so but my understanding is that it's very painful.
BTW, a cock with a fully retracted foreskin looks almost identical to a circumcised penis when erect. On at least 4 occasions I've been with women who told me they preferred circumcised penises and they didn't believe me when I told them I was uncircumcised. And one of them gave handjobs for a living!
I say leave the dick alone, pull it back early and keep it clean. Never had anybody complain.
If i ever take up time travel i'll be sure to post the answer here.
So you're saying it's a conspiracy; the scientific research is actually fabricated by order of the Pope or something?
For one act of random vaginal BBFS the risk may not look much different whether doing it circumcised or not, or having sex with a condom. In any case it is going to be extremely small.
But when you look at it over an individuals entire lifetime of decades & thousands of sex sessions things look quite a bit different, especially if they involve relatively risky behaviours. A lifetime chance of 25, 50, 70 or 90% of getting HIV may seem to some people an acceptable rate, while extremely risk averse people would only feel comfortable at something much less than 1%.
In the big picture of nations and continents full of hundreds of millions of people, another picture is painted. For example it has been estimated that millions would avoid HIV infection if circumcision were practiced in Africa.
