Curious why asking for a discount is thought to be bad

[Bakermn]

I am always intrigued....

by people that ask for a discount - on anything.

We are not in the middle east.
We are not in a culture where people (generally) expect to haggle over price....with exeptions of course on cars etc.....

You can haggle with a doctor in the middle east because he gets paid a few dollars a day , and perhaps a procedure done "under the table" paid in cash goes a long way to help out the family.

In North America - we all want to enjoy good paying jobs. But no one wants to admit that that comes with a price.

The other part of my interest is people that ask for a discount before any sort of rapport or loyalty is built up. Why should you get a discount? Are you going to be loyal? - prove it first and then ask. If you get a discount, are you definately coming back? Or is the old saying if you gain a customer on price you area going to lose them on price the point? And sure as hell, if you start discounting its a race to the bottom and everyone loses.....(remember when flying used to be at least a little bit enjoyable?)

So when it comes to the ladies - don't discount. State a fair price. If they don't want to pay it..... they can move on... Be good to your loyal customers. Give the service that is going to keep them coming back, not the discounts that meant they will think well gee, If I can weedle $30.00 buck discount from her this time...,...


Just my .02

 

[kehoe]

I think part of the problem like with many services, nothing is being manufactured, there is no middle man (indys) and there is also the perception of relatively low overhead. The rationale for some is then "Where does she get the nerve to demand so much $$$ to lay there for an hour and be pleasured when I'm slugging it out on the assembly line of the widjit factory for 18.50/hr? A little bit of jealousy maybe. I don't know. I wouldn't ask for a discount myself. If I thought an sp's rates were too high I just wouldn't see her.

 

[kehoe]

by people that ask for a discount - on anything.

We are not in the middle east.
We are not in a culture where people (generally) expect to haggle over price....with exeptions of course on cars etc.....

You can haggle with a doctor in the middle east because he gets paid a few dollars a day , and perhaps a procedure done "under the table" paid in cash goes a long way to help out the family.

In North America - we all want to enjoy good paying jobs. But no one wants to admit that that comes with a price.

The other part of my interest is people that ask for a discount before any sort of rapport or loyalty is built up. Why should you get a discount? Are you going to be loyal? - prove it first and then ask. If you get a discount, are you definately coming back? Or is the old saying if you gain a customer on price you area going to lose them on price the point? And sure as hell, if you start discounting its a race to the bottom and everyone loses.....(remember when flying used to be at least a little bit enjoyable?)

So when it comes to the ladies - don't discount. State a fair price. If they don't want to pay it..... they can move on... Be good to your loyal customers. Give the service that is going to keep them coming back, not the discounts that meant they will think well gee, If I can weedle $30.00 buck discount from her this time...,...


Just my .02

You would be amazed at how many people ask for discounts on any number of goods and services. I worked retail when I was 19 -20 -21 and even a store in the mall people would be asking "Is that your best price?" or "Could you do better?". Many times the manager would knock off a few dollars or eat the tax, much to my amazement but he said it happens in every sector where money is being traded for goods/services.They were usually the people with the most $$ too and for good reason; they don't give it away.

Do/did you pay full $$ for your house or car you bought off the lot? Everything is negotiated, it's not just something reserved for the open air market in Calcutta or the garage sale down the street.

 

[Ais]

My thoughts are that there are atleast two types of pooners. The first is in it for an experience as alluded by Methos. The second, just wants to get their rocks off. I also believe (especially so on a first encounter) that asking for a discount will decrease the experience that the sp may be delivering to you. So I guess if you are pooner number two, go ahead ask for the discount, and if she sees you anyway then you are happy. If you are pooner number one, you would be better off not too and may be in poor taste to do so.

 

[Cock Throppled]

The only discount I've seen and I think is very fair is when rates go up and regulars continue to pay the old price. The SP's doing that are very smart and are giving a discount to those who have supported them in the past. Also there are the loyalty programs at some MP's. Smart marketing.

 

[Bakermn]

Another way of looking at it`

Does your employer ask you " is it ok" if I pay you less today?

 

[Saraphina]

Discounts are fine when it's Win-Win

I give a number of discounts in my business. I offer 'honored rates'; when I first started as an indy my rates were as low as $200/hr and there are still people who get these rates. I do this because they supported me in early days to help me achieve the level of success I have today. I used to advertise a birthday special, if someone asked for this deal I would likely still honor it. Now this is the big important one. If you have a personality I like and I know that my experience will be really enjoyable too, I will likely offer more time or better deals in the future. Now to come out of the gates asking for a discount tells me that you likely are not someone who is going to respect my boundaries. That is a financial boundary I set, and you are already trying to move that mark. How are you going to behave around my other boundaries? Now maybe some of you don't see the corrilation between fincial boundaries and safety boundaries. But my experience most people who haven't the respect in the one area will not have respect in the other. In most cases I have about 5 mins or less to get a read from a prospective client. Negotiating rates is something that sends off a red flag and I will most likely choose not to see you, and will not in future if you try again.

 

[n2supersymmetry]

I don't haggle because the sp market is large enough with enough variation that I can find the right girl, the right menu at the right price with some research.
I may gripe sometimes about the prices but it's like bitching about taxes ... I still pay the full amount when the time comes.
I will accept discounts if the sp offers it to me or in general and sometimes that's a deal breaker between seeing sp A or sp B. Anyways, discounts to me is a good idea in principle because it does weight into my decision in choosing who to see. It may seem like she is making less money but if my decision to see an sp favors her then she'll wind up making more money from me in the long run.

 

[SoftHandsAnne]

There are different situations where discounts can happen in my business. Examples: had someone come to town on a contract who was seeing me once or twice a week for 8 weeks. Sometimes a client can only stay for 30 or 40 minutes. Sometimes it's "that time of the month" and someone still wants as close to a GFE as possible.

Or, sometimes when I've been talking to someone for a while and they have been nervous about "coming over to the dark side" I'll give a bit of a discount... you know... almost like a drug dealer... give you a taste knowing you'll then be hooked.

MWAAAHAAHAAA

*evil grin*

But, something that may "help" is that I calculated my prices based on the fact that for each client it's about 4 hours of time average including prep, cleaning, preening, the visit, clean up and laundry. Plus I bear the costs of condoms, candles and oils/lubes. Using that info, plus having looked at the local market prices and knowing what I charge in my "straight" business (i.e., I would be working those 4 hours elsewhere if not otherwise occupied), I set my price.

 

[chilli]

I'll tell you why asking for a discount is "unacceptable"

It's an implication that you don't think the service is worth what the price is.

An insult to me.

I don't give discounts in my business - because I know what I am worth. When you give a discount you are basically saying...

"I don't see the value in what I do."

If you don't see the value in what you do, then how are your clients going to see any value?

You get what you pay for hot shot. Some people never learn that lesson.

 

[Audrey]

(/QUOTE)You have to remember that once something is being exchanged for money its fair game to try and negotiate. If we were in a place where we had to pay for medical pocedures i'd have no trouble negotiating with my heart surgeon for my by-pass, I therefore have no qualms about negotiating with my prostitute of choice for a BBBJ (/QUOTE)

I hear what you are saying. Some people don't mind being negotiated with, other people take offense to it. I personaly take offense. That's just me.

 

[momlover]

I'm still looking for the freebie I deserve, because I am so cute.

 

[kehoe]

I'll tell you why asking for a discount is "unacceptable"

It's an implication that you don't think the service is worth what the price is.

An insult to me.

I don't give discounts in my business - because I know what I am worth. When you give a discount you are basically saying...

"I don't see the value in what I do."

If you don't see the value in what you do, then how are your clients going to see any value?

You get what you pay for hot shot. Some people never learn that lesson.

Again, I'm not in any way advocating the practise of trying to weasel your way into a price break on everything you purchase but business is business and at the end of the day the more money you save for yourself or your business the better the ledger looks at the end of that day. You cannot let emotion play a role in business, you have to separate the two. You can definitely be passionate about your business but you can't begrudge someone who is trying to get the best deal for themselves. A little off topic and let me reiterate I'm not one to look for discounts from sp's but for certain other goods and services out there - why not?

 

[ScottyTwoHotty]

Does your employer ask you " is it ok" if I pay you less today?

PERFECT example!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately, those who expect deals or discounts don't often see it that way. It's like my nephew... Me me me me me me me me me me me.......
Who cares about the SP. As long as "I" get what I want.
I also read a comment about people assuming SP's have little to no overhead. Have you ever asked an indy what her expenses are? I think any pooner would be shocked. Not to mention you want an outcall, in rush hour, during gridlock, with fuel over $1.00 a litre. Not to mention fitness centers, tanning sessions, make-up, clothing, condoms (which I've yet to hear a pooner supply), cellular phone bills (so you can contact her ASAP as you have the urge now, not later) and I'm sure the list goes on and on...
I agree that an SP can and may offer a discount if you are a regular, but 1 - 2 times doesn't make you a regular. And to ask or push for a cheaper rate is pathetic. At least give yourself the chance to walk out of your session with you head held up. You throw your self respect right out the window when you basically say, "Hi, I'm too cheap to pay you full price, can you throw a special deal my way? Call it the BOTTLE PICKER SPECIAL."

 

[Sexy BBW]

I'm still looking for the freebie I deserve, because I am so cute.

Shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Oh boy this subject opened up a can of worms

 

[Sexy BBW]

Hi, I'm too cheap to pay you full price, can you throw a special deal my way? Call it the BOTTLE PICKER SPECIAL."[/I]

I have been asked on more then one occasion, can you do this and this for such and such price... How fucking cheap can some people get? my response is go get yourself a hastings ho for that price. Gawd I just hate it when they call up and think I am some cheap hooker. Hey buddy I am a human being I sure know what my time and body, mind, and soul are worth. If you cant PAY then don't play, playa!

Needless to say, if you are a regular of mine I don't mind "helping you out" from time to time. Just don't expect it to become a habit

 

[ScottyTwoHotty]

I have been asked on more then one occasion, can you do this and this for such and such price... How fucking cheap can some people get? my response is go get yourself a hastings ho for that price.

Needless to say, if you are a regular of mine I dont mind "helping you out" from time to time. Just don't expect it to become a habit

Psssst. If I told ya I'm cute would ya gimme an afternoon free? I've been told I'm REAL CUTE. LOL J/K

 

[Sexy BBW]

Psssst. If I told ya I'm cute would ya gimme an afternoon free? I've been told I'm REAL CUTE. LOL J/K

PM ME

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

Holy shit! What a hot topic this is.
Asking for a discount is fine. I personally would not, because I want the full 'bang for the buck'. Ya know, like if she indicated during the session that DATY wasn't on the menu, I'd be thinking, 'Hmmm. Maybe if I didn't haggle her down by a couple of greens, it would be on the menu...(?)'
But to equate price negotiation with self-worth is fuckin' assinine. Why? If a girl puts her self-worth at $$$ instead of $$.5, I'd say she didn't have a hell of alot to start with, and knockin' her down by .5 isn't gonna make much of a diff. But she doesn't put her self-worth at $$$, just the service she's offering. Get it?

 

[Gentleman First]

I personally have never asked for a discount on an hourly rate, but I have enquired as to whether or not discounts apply to multi-hour and regular encounters. Simply by asking what they would charge for these type of services, I never bartered down the reply.

As to how common discounts are, have you tried asking a lawyer, an accountant, or god help you a dentist, for a discount..they're all in the service sector.

As to the issue of whether or not you are negotiating someone's worth and dignity, it seems to me a price of some kind has already been put on this if one views having sex with stranger for money to be a gauge on this issue. Personally I don't equate the two. I think one can have sex with someone for money and still retain their dignity and sense of worth.

Sorry been at work the past 6 hours, so just catching up here.

To answer this directly, yes i have asked my lawyer and dentist for a discount....got it from both.
Offered a salesman what i was willing to pay for a car recently...he turned it down.
I bought a car from another one instead.
Next day salesman #1 calls me willing to accept my offer....sorry dude you had your chance, my new car is siting in my garage already

I generally have a price in my head....I simply walk if its not for sale at that price.
Also i would never get into a haggle or be rude with and SP over money.

Lets say she is asking 300/hr....i offer 250....its her choice to accept or not.
If she says no, maybe i will pay the 300, or maybe say thanks and have a great day....go elsewhere instead....its my choice after all

Its called a free country