Curious.. what do you guys think about...

[Small pleasures]

I guess I need to respond to this...

Since I am part of the discussion. I am Miss T and yes I'm a paid advertiser.

The situation with Hatrick was unique. I made it clear that this was a one time only deal. I confess a big part was that I just wanted to meet him. I've loved his writing and I was curious. Of course I knew it made good marketing sense to have him write a review, duh, but I made it clear that I wanted him to be honest.

We did the best job we could, like we always do and his review reflected that.

I have received A LOT of reviews on Perb in the last few months. I do not offer discounts or extra anything in exhange for reviews. I encourage those who have only ever lurked to take the plunge and contribute back to the review board, because without reviews there's no review board for anyone to read.

In encouraging them to write am I asking for a 'positive' review? No, but since I try really hard to make sure everyone leaves happy, I'm pretty certain it will be positive.

Ms. Bijou, you have an excellent point and I understand your concern. I just think the examples you used were not good ones.

I've been reviewed by well-respected members of this board and new guys no one has heard from before. My credibility should be rock solid by now.

With Bea, she seems to be honest, asking for a review she knows will be positive and generate more business. It sounds like she does deliver what she advertises and if someone lets other Perbites know about a good SP, well, that seems fine too. Even if it takes a nudge, the whole point is to share info.

Eurhythmia, I can arrange an appointment with Samantha if you want. Not sure why you had trouble, we're both pretty available this week. PM me with a day/time request and we'll get it done.

Peace,
Miss T
sendit2tracey@yahoo.ca

 

[slacker]

Well I have done a review when I was asked to after I had a good time. Perhaps a bit shilly of the girl to ask me, however ... if she's going to ask, I'll oblige, but I'll keep it honest, and I wouldn't accept some form of compensation for it. In fact even though it was a good time I knew it wouldn't be a repeat so there was nothing for me to gain.

If she hadn't asked me for a review, I probably wouldn't have posted one, as honestly I'm a bit uncomfortable rating the girls. I admit I have a hard time saying anything negative unless they really deserved it. So I would hope it was to the benefit of perb that the information was posted. In fact it was my only direct review.

But yeah if you are accepting favours for reviews, then yeah I think you are tainted.

 

[aznboi9]

I just always threaten to write a negative review if the girl doesn't cut me a discount.





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[Saraphina]

I can uderstand trying to weed out scam artists. But when it comes to anything else, I can't help but laugh when I see discussion about ethics in this biz. Trying to establish a set of industry ethics or code of conduct in this biz is like trying to nail Jello to a wall. Not saying that I agree or disagree. But in any case, the girls will either continue to shine bright over time, or fizzle out.

Me, I am a techniphobe, I don't jump on board with new technology till other people have done the TOFTT'ing (with the exception of my vibrator that attaches to my iPod because it was way to cool not to get). If blowing your budget on a new girl scares you, then wait. You'll find out soon enough if you are comfortable spending your money.

My personal feelings about the ladies in question, is that they are just are starting out and figuring out how things work. Trying to find their pathes in this biz. Their approaches could have been much worse. PERB has seen much worse. I don't think their intent is to be deceatful, or malicious to pooners. Just trying to break into the market. Based on the reviews and their authors, my suspicion is that there are some new rising stars on the Vancouver horizon. I guess we'll find out.

 

[Daymo]

A different perspective.

I read quite a few reviews on this board over the last couple of months. Some good, some negative, but mostly all informative. I have experienced many SPs and SWs before, but, as is the case with many, it seems to be hit and miss. Reading the reviews on this board made me want to try out a couple of different providers as some of the ladies here seem truly awesome. I wish I could spend more time on this hobby but hey, I have to work a full day to see a real SP for 1 hour.
I read a few reviews on Miss T and decided that since being teased and denied was a big turn on for me, she was the one. I saw her the first time and without her permission or knowledge wrote a review that came from the bottom of my heart. I have reviewed each visit I have had with her, only because I wanted to share my journey with others. (New review coming soon.) I have her permission to freely write reviews about our sessions, but there is no chance that she would give me a discount or better service because of it. Personally, I enjoy sharing with others, but would I would not feel right if I was writing anything but the truth.
I am so thankful I had those other reviews to go by.

 

[Cock Throppled]

I admit I have a hard time saying anything negative unless they really deserved it.

Uh...if someone posts negative things when they don't deserve it that brings up a whole new set of ethics/shilliness.

 

[aznboi9]

Too subtle?

And she doesn't throw you out on your ass?

You realize, of course, that you've just blown any credibility that any negative review you ever post might have had...

Did I need to put one of these next to my sentence?

 

[bob_knob]

One question is how do ladies always know who the reviewer is? I can barely find a review on here where the lady doesn’t post a reply implying that she knows who the reviewer is. I may be wrong but I think every lady in this post is guilty of that too.

A discount for reviews, LOL, there are ladies that offer discounts to members for bumping their posts, taking their side in a thread, bashing people they don’t like, etc. Why do you think certain members follow certain girls around all the time. We assume they are shill handles but lots are lap dogs hoping for that discount pm they have heard of.

I can confirm that when I visited Miss T she did briefly talk about reviews but I felt no pressure to write one. Everyone that has seen you off this board knows you offer a unique service and everything that is written about you 2 is solid.

My personal feelings about the ladies in question, is that they are just are starting out and figuring out how things work. Trying to find their pathes in this biz. Their approaches could have been much worse. PERB has seen much worse. I don't think their intent is to be deceatful, or malicious to pooners. Just trying to break into the market. Based on the reviews and their authors, my suspicion is that there are some new rising stars on the Vancouver horizon. I guess we'll find out.

Very well said Saraphina!

 

[neverwas]

On a couple of occasions SP's have hinted that I should write reviews on TERB(my regular board) but never offerred any incentive. I suspect that most requests or deals do not become public knowledge.
Walk Softly has it right. Most of us would not feel completely confident basing our decisions on any one review, even from a trusted reviewer. There are too many factors involved. If we find a few positive reviews or consistently positive comments we have reason to believe that this particular SP tries hard to please most or all of her clients. It is highly unlikely that she bribed all of them! Even if she is encouraging clients to write I would be surprised if many of us would give a glowing review of a mediocre performance.
Before I saw Seven and Violet on a recent Victoria visit I read enough reviews and comments to know that there was a good probability of a good visit. They were great, just as the comments suggested. One other SP I saw on the same visit had some good reviews but we didn't click as well. Even having several positive reviews does not make a great visit a certainty.
If an SP has been around for a while and has no reviews that raises questions in my mind. I think many of us avoid posting reviews of mediocre service but would post about a really bad experience. Its the SPs with no track record who I would tend to avoid.

 

[odlum]

It is highly unlikely that she bribed all of them! Even if she is encouraging clients to write I would be surprised if many of us would give a glowing review of a mediocre performance.

I agree completely. I visit Kelowna often and I rely on the comments posted on this Board for information about the local SP's. I use the comments and websites of the local girls to help choose who I will visit. I now have one or two favorites, but reviews are really few and far between for the Okanagan and girls with websites are even fewer.

The few I've found are:
Taylor.........www.trulytaylored.com
Porsche.......www.porscha.ca
Cindy..........www.blonde46ddd.com
Madonna.....www.mssexysexy.com

Whether a review is "unpaid" advertising or not I beelieve it is what thi Board is all about the sharing of information. Not everyone will agree with the review but it does help form an opinion. I think the MOD's do a great job weeding out those true SHILL's.

 

[slacker]

Uh...if someone posts negative things when they don't deserve it that brings up a whole new set of ethics/shilliness.

I don't think my original statement came accross quite right. I certainly wouldn't say something negative that wasn't deserved. What I meant to say, and another poster alluded to it, is the middle area where things could kind of go either way.

For example if I wasn't terribly attracted to a lady but I know there would be others that would be as she just wasn't my type, I'd have a hard time giving her a numbered rating for looks as it's a fairly personal thing. In my first review I gave numbers, but from now on I don't think I would ever use numbers again (at least for looks). It just seems a bit sleazy to me to rate a lady you know with a number for looks (unless you think they are a 10). It even seems a bit hard to say anything negative about looks, as you just feel bad saying "such and such's boobs weren't impossibly round and large", etc. Anyway I'm tired again and starting to blither, hope you get the gist of it though.

 

[bob_knob]

I get it now!

Just to be clear. The part of my post you quoted and commented on was not about Hatrick`s review but about the other review/thread.. as I believe Miss T is a paid advertiser.. and other sp that was reviewed at her request is not a paid advertiser.

Sorry Miss T, as I said previously, I think you offer a great niche service.

So it’s ok for paid advertisers to solicit directly to members who they think will give them a reputable review and offer a discount up front -

Its right there on the board for everyone to read, they gave me a special rate 1 time only if I did a review on them. Don`t underestimate these chicks, they are not dummies and will continue to market their skills to their particular market, mostly fetish I would say!

And it’s not ok for unpaid advertisers to contact a client after the session via email and ask for a review –

hey Rabbit.......
please give a me a review on the escort review board https://perb.cc i only have a few, and i do need something good said to help me get some business.....
xoxo69696969696969xoxoxo spit spit.........
i really enjoyed tonight...... a lot.....
and yes you can give my email..... pound.myass@hotmail.com
would love to play wednesday......
lust and licks
Bea
xoxo69xoxo

Is advertising a result of reviews.. or is advertising the purpose of reviews? Hmmm.

Is this only an ADVERTISING board…or is it a REVIEW board? Hmmm.

 

[Small pleasures]

Paid advertiser vs. un-paid...

I'm not sure I see a big difference other than paid advertisers 'tend' to have a more soild reputation on Perb.
I had numerous positive reviews and had a solid reputation before I became a paid advertiser anyway.
Maybe it's a respect thing, since we pay to advertise here (even though it hasn't increased my business, it seems to have increased the amount of respect I get, at least from other SP's.)
I'd like to address the comment that SP's seem to know the advertiser and comment (usually saying thank you) after a review. In my case, and in most I suspect, the client emails me and tells me he has posted a review. I'm also on here looking a couple times a day for fun, so of course I'll say thanks or comment if there's something about me.
As I said before, Miss Bijou may have a point but using me as an example was a mistake. Hatrick was a one-time unique situation and I would like to be excluded from future comments on this thread regarding bribing clients to review me.
Thank you,
Miss T

 

[totravel]

Did I need to put one of these next to my sentence?

jjinvan's reply to your first post was also (unintentionally) .

 

[littlejimbigher]

I would rather have exeptional service to a discount for writing a review.
Only a couple of times has the SP known I write reviews before the session but many have talked about reviews after. There has been some that do not want a review, others say they can't wait to read one.
Restaurant reviewers renain unknown because they want the same service as the general public.

 

[DeaAphrodite]

I would rather have exeptional service to a discount for writing a review.

Only a couple of times has the SP known I write reviews before the session but many have talked about reviews after. There has been some that do not want a review, others say they can't wait to read one.

Restaurant reviewers renain unknown because they want the same service as the general public.

I like what you said about anonymous restaurant critics.

I try to give the same excellent service to everyone I see (to the extent that they allow it - I'll explain that in a bit*), and whether I am hoping for a review or not never enters the equation. What I enjoy about reading a review later is that it gives me a really good idea about what I'm doing right so I keep doing more of it. It could also be a wake up if I read about something I did wrong or could have done better... although I certainly would rather hear about that in person, at the time, when I can do something about it (like removing my lipstick, or a change in outfits, for example).

I can appreciate Tracey's comments about encouraging lurkers to become posters, thereby contributing back to the perb community. I think this is a very valid point. As long as the lady doesn't ask for anything but the truth, it may be a very good idea for us (sp's) to encourage fellas who only read the board, and don't post.

Personally, I do not ask for reviews (but do welcome them ). I understand that many people do not want to "get involved" any more than necessary to research, locate, and connect with a lady: nobody but he & the bedpost are any the wiser. Some feel uncomfortable that their writing skills aren't up to standard when compared to some of the very eloquent gentlemen (and not-so gentle men ) who write long, detailed, and often very entertaining reviews. Some won't bother to review, because they don't want to be attacked, called "shill", or otherwise abused, because that bs is so common here (and that is a SHAME Don't you premature "shill cryers" realize you are shooting yourselves in the foot here? (occassionally it is valid, I admit, and should be called as such) )

Would-be reviewers: A few simple words can be enough, if you don't feel like sharing the details or getting personal. Did you have a good time? Is she as advertised? Would you repeat? How do you contact her?


* Ok... here's the explanation: I will always try my best to please clients, however once in a while someone arrives to play with a poor attitude, personal hygiene issues, or unrealistic expectations. For these guys, it is really hard to give it my all, tho' I do still try, and they may feel that they got less service than the read about someone else getting. I'm sorry, but if your ass (or other parts) stinks, I am not interested in spending any time with my face anywhere nearby. The stellar blowjob/ball sucking happens only if you're clean.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

This thread wasn't meant to point fingers at anyone in particular.. I originally didn't use any specific examples and tried to add points from each point of view (good and bad) to avoid that but subsequently added a couple of examples because the point I was trying to make with my post didn't seem to be clear to everyone.

However I think the examples I chose were fine and they were not chosen with the intention of bashing anyone.
*I asked everyone's thougths on sp's asking for a review or providing discounts in exchange for one.*

I don't think anyone would be debating over a bad or rip-off sp... we pretty much all already agree on that so choosing such an example would not add any value to the discussion....

So on one hand, a well reviewed and respected sp who is a paid advertiser and on the other hand, a never (or newer) well reviewed sp who is not a supporting member. I'm not questionning paid vs unpaid advertisement but just offering two separate examples to see if those make a difference to how ppl view this.. or not.

Is this only an ADVERTISING board…or is it a REVIEW board? Hmmm.

This is the grey area I wanted to have ppl's opinion on. Some got it, some did not. Obviously it is both but the reviews are mainly used by you gentlemen so that is why I wanted your thoughts about the mixing of both. Thanks to those of you who shared your opinion, it was interesting to read the different points of view.



I'm not sure about getting more respect as a result of being a paid advertiser, personally I haven't noticed any difference. I don't tend to get more business from perb either but as someone pointed out to me, not everyone reveals they're a member so it's hard to know for sure and that's fine with me. My main reason for being a supporting member is mostly to be able to post without being accused of unpaid advertising and include photo/banner/link to my site on my profile or sig.
I have my profile on a few other sites, but I find it interesting that this place is interactive and I like that it enables me to put more than a brief bio & photos as well as allow feedback on a variety of escort related or non-related topics.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

Dea, your entire post is dead-on. I agree with you 100%.

But I love this line. ROLMAO Should use it as a slogan or something:



Now, remember kids,

The stellar blowjob/ball sucking happens only if you're clean.[/I]

oh so true gentlemen.

 

[Avery]

I've posted somewhere between 60 and 75 escort reviews on the TERB family of boards over the past 6 years (about 10 each on TERB and MERB, and the rest on PERB. I've only been asked by ladies on two occasions to write a review. Some of the ladies knew beforehand that I was a reviewer and some didn't, but only those two actually asked me to review them.

In the first instance, it was a Toronto lady whom I booked primarily because I wanted to experience a squirter for the first time. She more than lived up to the squirting expectations (she absolutely saturated my hotel room's king size bed!! ), but I found her quite unattractive. I delayed posting a review because I was trying to find a way of hinting she wasn't attractive without being unkind in public. After about three weeks, she started PMing me on TERB every day asking why I hadn't yet reviewed her, and saying something must have been wrong (she knew I was Avery). I finally posted a review in which my only reference to her appearance was to say she matched her photos (which didn't show her face anyway). I concentrated on the squirting aspect for entertainment purposes.

The second instance was last year, when I repeated with a Montreal lady more than two years after our first encounter, which I reviewed very favourably on MERB. (BTW, she was also a squirter, but that wasn't why I booked her on either occasion). About a month after our second encounter, she PM'd me on MERB and asked me to post a review. I don't normally review the same lady more than once, no matter how many times I see her. However, given the passage of more than two years, and the favourable repeat, I agreed to make an exception, and posted another review. This lady is very skilled at self-promotion in an inoffensive way.

On the other hand, I've only been asked once by a lady who knew beforehand that I was Avery not to post a review. Since her request was made before our encounter, I agreed to honour her wishes. Too bad, because the session was spectacular, and would have made a very entertaining review! I have been asked a few times by ladies that, if I post a review, not to mention publicly that they gave me a BBBJ. I have honoured these requests, but I sometimes share that info with a few board members that I trust will be discreet and not pressure the lady if they see her. One lady asked me not to share that info with anyone, and I respected her wishes.

 

[totravel]

On the original topic of this thread, reviews in exchange for rewards is akin to the Rory Fitzpatrick NHL All-Star Game debacle, an insult to the quality performers.
Bogus reviews will not benefit the SP's who receive them, and will (in the long run) do them more harm than good, as legit reviewers will find out the truth.
I have never been asked to write a review. When I'm seeing an SP for the first time at the end of the session, I ask her if she would mind/like me to review her. Asking is a good idea, since I've found some (excellent SP's) that either don't want it or have concerns about details on YMMV services.
My reasons for writing reviews are:
To give back to the board something in return for all the info I've used from it. If we don't do this, we won't have a useable resource worth bothering with.
To help me remember the details of enjoyable experiences. (as LutherBlissett said, but not as eloquently as he can.)
The problem with using Perb as a resource is if you don't like the thrill or uncertainty of TOFTT, prefer to go with a sure thing, most reviews will be very positive, and targets for those who like to cry shill.
Participation by SP's (paid or unpaid advertisers) on the board also feeds the shill-cryers, who don't trust them being allowed on here.
I've noticed this attitude often regards SP's as whores, lesser humans who are willing to degrade themselves for a buck.
That is not the environment that I want to see on Perb.