Curious.. what do you guys think about...

[Miss*Bijou]

SP's asking a client to write a review or offering discounts in return for writing a review...


I keep reading references to SP's asking for reviews from their clients, or offering discounted sessions in exchange for a review.
I'm not surprised or chocked by this fact, but maybe a little by the fact that it's openly disclosed, even included with the review.
I would have thought this to be a No-No so I guess I was surprised noone has said anything...

I figured it would be kind of a indirect shill...no?


Asking someone you know you connected with to write a review you know will be favorable..? Or offering a discount upfront in exchange for a review you figure will probably be favorable for a session you know will be reviewed on.. Borderline paying off the judges or having a cheat sheet for a pop quiz you already knew about, no? lol


On the other hand, no one's hiding it.. It's mentionned up front and who better to write a review of how good one's services are/can be than someone who's really had a great time..
It's an honnest review and no one's making anything up so why not ask. A happy client would most likely be happy to help an sp get more business by his review.


But then again...
What if a lot of sp's head in that direction.. you'd have review after review of extatic satisfied clients..
We can all agree that reviews are one of the best forms of advertising for us but should we have this much control over who's writing reviews?
Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose? Do that make them less valid? Or does it make no difference at all?


Like I said, judging by how quickly shill is usually called on this board, I was really surprised no one has commented on this... It got me thinking about the whole deal and I'm not sure if I think it's good or bad... or in between..


I'm curious to hear what everyone thinks... if anything!


Me

 

[BOBST]

Any guy asking for a discount for a good review is not worth your time at all!!!

You can stand on your own merits and don't need the BS.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

Any guy asking for a discount for a good review is not worth your time at all!!!

You can stand on your own merits and don't need the BS.

lol No worries, no one's asked me...

I meant the other way around.. a guy being offered a discount..

 

[georgebushmoron]

A guy writing a review where he is too friendly with the girl is not likely going to be very objective. If he further gets money from her, he really is not going to say anything negative if it exists. This could be good for the SP, but once pooners find out he was paid, the review will be very suspect and she will find guys are not so willing to see her based on reviews.

It'll work for you if you can find the right guy who can write a good story that is believable. Perb might a good place to look for such a guy, but you'll have to be careful when making offers so that it doesn't get around too much.

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

It is a basic conflict of interest IMO.
You offer me a discount
in order that I write a review about you
but me, being the typical selfish XY male,
will more than likely
write a positive review
in hopes of
getting my noodle wet
in the future
at a discounted rate.

There have been reviews on perb where the author has indicated a deal between himself and the SP. I don't give those reviews the time of day.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

A guy writing a review where he is too friendly with the girl is not likely going to be very objective. If he further gets money from her, he really is not going to say anything negative if it exists. This could be good for the SP, but once pooners find out he was paid, the review will be very suspect and she will find guys are not so willing to see her based on reviews.

It`ll work for you if you can find the right guy who can write a good story that is believable. Perb might a good place to look for such a guy, but you`ll have to be careful when making offers so that it doesn`t get around too much.

true true..

Just to clarify, I actually have no plans on finding someone.. I`m not speaking about myself personally.


I was referring to a couple of recent threads in the review section:

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=61179
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=555066#post555066

 

[LonelyGhost]

its usually the other way around ... that sp's ask that you
not write a review ... particularly if you got a nice 'extra'
you weren't expecting!

i sort of think that good sp's don't often get reviewed
and its the one's with problems that get either bad
reviews or shills.

 

[athaire]

I guess its a matter of who the reviewer is and their credibility on the board. I don't know of the one reviewing that Bea girl but if Hatrick posts like that I don't have any problems with that. Though he didn't use his usual style of writing.
Won't work if the poster has low review counts.

 

[Cock Throppled]

Paige is right - Ask if it's okay after the session, but obviously if one asks it's going to be a favourable review. "Wow, that was the worst experience of my life. Mind if I post a review?"

 

[SexyBoy]

Reviews need to be honest

It is truely the only way to make everyone happy. Except of course for the ones that provide bad service to all. Hopefully they quit and do something else with their life as this line of work does not make them happy.

When you are honest then the right pooners hook up with the right sp's and then its a party!

 

[Miss*Bijou]

I personally don't agree that an sp should ever ask for a review, nor should a guest mention it before or during the visit (it's ok to ask after). That's the only way to ensure an "honest" review, rather than him advertising for her (aka shilling) or her going out of her way to ensure an incredible visit.

Paige ______

I agree with you 100%..

How can it be completely objective if there's obvious incentive for you or your guy!

To be honnest I was a little chocked to see the lady asked for a review, clearly for advertising purposes... If she'd posted it herself we would be saying unpaid advertising. But because it's in form of a review, it's not??

I do realize that this is probably not new, but I found it disturbing that it was mentionned and seemed to be accepted..

Give the right service to the right person for the right price....and get your name out there.

Doesn't seem right to me.


As a added note, I don't mean to imply that the reviews linked were fake but I just wanted to raise the question because I don't feel it's the direction reviews should be taking.. IMHO...

 

[Walk Softly]

Very damn few of us are capable of being really objective about someone we just shagged! I put little faith on a single review unless it's from someone whose postings I have found to be accurate. Even if someone with huge board credibility gives a good review, differing tastes and YMMV can change the picture totally. Often if there's only 1 or 2 reviews of a lady I'm interested in, I'll search the post of the reviewer(s) to see if their tastes are similar to mine etc.

Cheers! WS.

 

[tedsweettangv]

It depends how it is done

It depends how it is done.

1) A guy asking for a discount so he will write a good review, that guy should be thrown out. This is just being a sleaze ball.

2) An SP offering a discount for a good review, the review should disclose this information. At first I was going to say I was against this, but in the end, it is just another form of advertising. Besides if the information is disclosed I think soon SP would be inundated with "reviewers".

I typically don't tell an SP I am on perb unless they ask, and if they ask my handle, then I tell them that too. I have had SP's tell me I should write reviews because it is letting my fellow pooners down if I don't. This has happened twice, both times I paid full price, and the people who said that said it in casual conversation BEFORE we even had a session. One of them said it didn't really matter if I wrote a good review or a bad review, although everybody likes good ones, because it was all advertising.

So I figure if an SP likes feedback or feels they give great service, why not tell your customers to please review you. It is much classier to do before the session, no discounts and let them make up their own mind.

 

[athaire]

Very damn few of us are capable of being really objective about someone we just shagged! I put little faith on a single review unless it's from someone whose postings I have found to be accurate. Even if someone with huge board credibility gives a good review, differing tastes and YMMV can change the picture totally. Often if there's only 1 or 2 reviews of a lady I'm interested in, I'll search the post of the reviewer(s) to see if their tastes are similar to mine etc.

Cheers! WS.

Well said.....

 

[gravitas]

Curious.. what do you guys think about...


SP's asking a client to write a review or offering discounts in return for writing a review

I think it stinks like an old man's colostomy bag!!!

 

[eurhythmia]

To be honnest I was a little chocked to see the lady asked for a review, clearly for advertising purposes... If she'd posted it herself we would be saying unpaid advertising. But because it's in form of a review, it's not??

I think it was quite clever of the lady to ask her fav perp writer to review her. Film, music & other publishers have always done this. Plus the reviewer is given the goods at no charge. That's the business. But in this case the 'perp reviewer' (f*ck, it's Hattrick OK) did pay an agreed price and it was fully disclosed in his review.

And I guess business really took off for those two ladies - hell, I couldn't even get an appt. with the dark, sultry one (but maybe I creeped her out, who knows).

 

[xoxo Amie]

gad dammit... there goes the neighbourhood! LOL

 

[Miss*Bijou]

I think it was quite clever of the lady to ask her fav perp writer to review her. Film, music & other publishers have always done this. Plus the reviewer is given the goods at no charge. That's the business. But in this case the 'perp reviewer' (f*ck, it's Hattrick OK) did pay an agreed price and it was fully disclosed in his review.

And I guess business really took off for those two ladies - hell, I couldn't even get an appt. with the dark, sultry one (but maybe I creeped her out, who knows).

Just to be clear. The part of my post you quoted and commented on was not about Hatrick's review but about the other review/thread.. as I believe Miss T is a paid advertiser.. and other sp that was reviewed at her request is not a paid advertiser.

+ + + + + + + +

Yes, absolutely.. I doubt it's a first though, it just probably wasn't admitted to in the past, that's all. I can understand the idea but what about when it's not Hatrick... I took this as an example but I bring it up because of what it could mean down the road.. could be a free for all and then there's no way of knowing what's what and who's going for the freebies.. I'm just saying...look at the big picture here.

Hatrick wrote it as a joke but once you get this ball rolling, you open the door for all kinds of funny business.. wether it be pooners trying to get deals in exchange for good reviews, in exchange for not posting bad reviews..
or.. sp's trying to buy good reviews playing on you gents' supposed lack of objectivity suffered as a result of shagging adventures (hey! I didn't say it first, I'm just using someone elses explanation! )


Is advertising a result of reviews.. or is advertising the purpose of reviews? Hmmm.


I can say that I don't think I would feel comfortable asking someone to review me, let alone offer something in exchange. But that's just me personally. I would rather have someone say honestly how much of great time they had without having been asked. I've been offered to take a look at the review before it was posted but I declined as I almost felt it would have tainted it somehow.. but again..just my preference. (and I should add that I trusted that the reviewer was not going to write anything distastful or untrue..


Thanks for your input!
I just wanted to get a feel for what you guys thought about it...


oh.. And I also just like rambling on like this once in a while.


Me

 

[PeterLongwood]

its usually the other way around ... that sp's ask that you
not write a review ... particularly if you got a nice 'extra'
you weren't expecting!

I am really careful about this now. I once reviewed an SP who gave me a BBBJ "in the heat of the moment" (no prior discussion, and no extra fee). She didn't normally offer BBBJs, even for a fee, but I didn't know this at the time. I put the BBBJ in the review. Needless to say, it made things a bit awkward for her.

Now I either ask "can I put this in a review?", add a YMMV, or simply leave it out. That way if a subsequent pooner gets the same treatment, it's a pleasant surprise. If he doesn't, no one's disappointed.

 

[Mr.O]

Professional Writing services available

I think it stinks like an old man's colostomy bag!!!

I'm thinking of posting an ad on CL for professional review writing, what do y'all think is a good fee or discount percentage?

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