crazy article, i got slammed bad.....

susi

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@the Meat Market!!!lol
courier printed a letter i wrote to clarify, i won my fight for one,safe work space known as coop brothel enterprise, we don't need a brothel lobby, we already have legal brothels. ben perrin lied outright and the reporter is a piece of work.
it sounds like i am going to attack prayer marchers and that i profit from trafficking women...

http://www2.canada.com/vancouvercou...l?id=4c4e7302-3d0c-44c9-ab3d-649a81d1f5b5&p=1
Pro-prostitution lobby wages war on Salvation Army
Protesters will target prayer vigils
Mark Hasiuk, Vancouver Courier
Published: Wednesday, September 09, 2009
Name the greatest threat to Vancouver prostitutes toiling on street corners and in storefront brothels:
A) pimps B) abusive, disease-carrying johns C) an apathetic public D) the Salvation Army
According to Vancouver's pro-prostitution lobby, the answer is D, the Salvation Army. Tell them what they've won, Regis.

The Salvation Army launched its local anti-human trafficking campaign last September after working on global sex trade issues for years. The charitable organization joins a growing movement of feminist and church groups who fear a spike in trafficking as the 2010 Winter Olympics draw near.
Human trafficking is among the world's fastest growing criminal industries, rivalling the illegal arms industry and drug trade in scope and impact. According to the U.S. State Department, approximately 800,000 victims are trafficked annually across international borders. Victims include women and children from Asia, South America and Eastern Europe.
In Vancouver, where brothels bloom like dandelions in some neighbourhoods, the magnitude of the problem is unknown. Due to a lack of law enforcement, Vancouver's sex trade industry--fuelled by domestic and international trafficking--remains a mystery.
Like most other anti-trafficking campaigns, the Salvation Army campaign targets the demand side of prostitution--pimps and johns. Last month the Salvation Army hung posters, depicting young women being beaten and abused, above urinals in downtown bars.
"This is a bold step for the Salvation Army," says Brian Venables, a Salvation Army spokesperson and chief architect of the campaign. "We've stepped out of the shadows and said this isn't going to happen anymore, and we're going to do what we can to stop it."
The pro-prostitution lobby is not amused.
The Salvation Army received several threatening emails about the campaign, but Venables says the criticism is misguided. "Our campaign is not against or about prostitution, it's about people who are forced into sex slavery," he says. "The issue is about those who don't have a choice."
But according to Susan Davis, a vocal member of Vancouver's pro-prostitution lobby, anti-trafficking campaigns are dangerous. Such campaigns, she says, prompt law enforcement to raid massage parlours--which she describes as "safe work places"--and drive the industry underground.
However, according to the city's licensing department, no massage parlours have been shut down this year.
Davis, a 41-year-old career prostitute, also claims that "Vancouver police are raiding Asian massage parlours" in a "racist and anti-immigrant" assault on the industry.
While the VPD cited "ongoing investigations," no massage parlours have been raided this year.
In fact, more than 50 de facto brothels--officially known as health enhancement centres--operate in Vancouver. Countless other unlicensed establishments operate with tacit approval from city hall.
Davis also attacked UBC law professor Ben Perrin, Canada's foremost expert on human trafficking. (The Salvation Army crafts its campaign on information complied by Perrin and others. The Criminal Intelligence Service of Canada and the U.S. State Department have confirmed Perrin's findings.) Perrin, she says, uses "fear mongering" and "demonization" to promote his anti-trafficking agenda.
Perrin dismisses the attack, noting Davis unsuccessfully lobbied in 2007 for legalized brothels in Vancouver. "This a pro-brothel lobby group," he says, "whose business is threatened by individuals who try to help people exit the sex trade and who try to confront exploitive pimps and traffickers."
Davis plans to mobilize other pro-prostitution activists and protest the Salvation Army's upcoming day of prayer, scheduled at churches and Salvation Army sites for Sept. 27.
She also targets Salvation Army volunteers who will visit Downtown Eastside street corners to pray for the anguished and abused. Davis plans to produce pamphlets warning street prostitutes about the Salvation Army threat. The pamphlets, she says, will be distributed by the publicly funded Mobile Access Project--also known as the MAP van. MAP van spokesperson Kate Gibson says she was unaware of Davis's plans but didn't rule out distributing the pamphlets.

"There's potential for a violent clash between sex workers and Salvation Army people, who have no comprehension of the way that we live," says Davis. "They assume we need rescue when in fact what we need is rights."
Davis may not need rescue. The vocal members of Vancouver's pro-prostitution lobby claim to live charmed lives.
But considering the widespread misery and abuse associated with the sex trade, her opposition to the Salvation Army campaign is desperate and her intentions are small.
Nevertheless, when she waves her placard in protest outside a Salvation Army church, she'll be included in those prayers--whether she likes it or not.
 

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"I'll pray for you too, Susi!"

Thank-you for continually putting yourself out there as an advocate.

It's one stupid article, along your path of working towards making this industry safer.

I really respect this statement that you made, "There's potential for a violent clash between sex workers and Salvation Army people, who have no comprehension of the way that we live," says Davis. "They assume we need rescue when in fact what we need is rights."

(PS: If you like, I will call my sister and add you to her prayer list. I'm already on there, and god knows it's helping!) haha
 

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That article is one of the worst pieces of shit I have ever read. The writer should be put in stocks on the corner of Hastings and Main, with a huge pile of rotten tomatoes in front of him.
 

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Don't let them get to you.;)
 

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now we can all rest assured...

... that there are prayers.
... not rescues
....not rights

......prayers.


holy fuck.


jxxx
 

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Particular agenda

I think the media has been pushed in a certain direction from the whole missing women problem.

They don't want to see that this can be viable only that is is bad.
 

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I wish more media would learn about reality, as suggested by another columnist answering a letter.
http://www.eyeweekly.com/fun/lovebites/article/72378
...authorities and laws trying to stop true slavery "trafficking" get misapplied to sex workers, clients and others involved in the sex industry. Law enforcement raids in the US and abroad have led to little success in identifying trafficked persons but instead have driven sex work underground.
-- not that I would expect this Hasiuk jackass to be willing to learn. He admits "Vancouver`s sex trade industry... remains a mystery" to him, and yet he eagerly believes hugely exaggerated and fictional nonsense from others as ignorant as he is.

Perrin`s own freedom of information request found out
http://www2.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=815e5425-18e2-4e45-81d7-0e369203b0b5
High-profile police raids on massage parlours, escort agencies or brothels haven`t yielded a single victim.
Hmmm... You`d think it might occur to him (and every other logical person) that the contentions that the business was `fuelled` by sex slaves were wildly inaccurate if the police aren`t finding them, and perhaps the "lack of law enforcement" is due to the police knowing that the city`s sex business has little or no resemblance to what is imagined by naive Salvation Army types.

...we already have legal brothels.
I`m confused -- Is that what you meant to write? I understand police largely ignore them, but they are still illegal because of the `common bawdy house` section 210 of the Criminal code, one of the three sections being challenged in the news story you linked to in another post.
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=116923
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...wed-to-back-prostitution-laws/article1297813/
 

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This is the weekend of prayer....

Another article in the Sun --- somewhat better, but check out the ignorant comments posted following it:

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/trade+workers+decry+Salvation+Army+posters/2030193/story.html

All the good people can now spend the weekend conversing with their invisible friend in the sky, knowing that will help prevent the sex slavery situation that all you ladies clearly find yourselves in.

Prayers are so effective....that's why the invisible friend always intervenes to prevent injustice.
 
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I think once the Olympics are over there will be less interest in this subject. Right now anything even remotely negative that can be tied to the Olympics (more sex-slaves for the visitors etc) is going to get airplay regardless if it's true or not. It's currently activist heaven because all of the cameras are pointed in this direction and they love nothing more than seeing themselves on screens and in print. Hopefully once the hysteria dies down people will be able to see the distinction between forced slavery and legitimate prostitution and the need for basic rights and protection.

Keep up the good battle though. You are not alone.
 

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I wish more media would learn about reality, as suggested by another columnist answering a letter.
http://www.eyeweekly.com/fun/lovebites/article/72378
-- not that I would expect this Hasiuk jackass to be willing to learn. He admits "Vancouver`s sex trade industry... remains a mystery" to him, and yet he eagerly believes hugely exaggerated and fictional nonsense from others as ignorant as he is.

Perrin`s own freedom of information request found out
http://www2.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=815e5425-18e2-4e45-81d7-0e369203b0b5Hmmm... You`d think it might occur to him (and every other logical person) that the contentions that the business was `fuelled` by sex slaves were wildly inaccurate if the police aren`t finding them, and perhaps the "lack of law enforcement" is due to the police knowing that the city`s sex business has little or no resemblance to what is imagined by naive Salvation Army types.


I`m confused -- Is that what you meant to write? I understand police largely ignore them, but they are still illegal because of the `common bawdy house` section 210 of the Criminal code, one of the three sections being challenged in the news story you linked to in another post.
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=116923
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...wed-to-back-prostitution-laws/article1297813/

yes, i meant to write it. i was slated as lobbying for legal brothels but i never did. criminal code or not, businesses operate openly and legally in vancouver so no need for a lobby.
 

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http://www.theprovince.com/news/Van...st+Salvation+Army+campaign/2031126/story.html

Vancouver police, sex workers blast Salvation Army campaign
By Stuart Hunter, The ProvinceSeptember 25, 2009 7:22 AMComments (2) A consortium of sex-trade workers, legal experts and Vancouver police are slamming a Salvation Army ad campaign they say is misleading, debasing to woman and sensational.

The Sex Industry Worker Safety Action Group says that although the ad campaign is meant to increase public awareness about human trafficking, it instead endangers sex-trade workers.

"Street-based sex-trade workers are coming in to agencies . . . saying they feel incredibly assaulted by the campaign," said group chairwoman Tamara O'Doherty. "They are feeling very targeted. We want to make people aware this campaign was done with no consultation with anyone working in the sex-trade industry."

The Salvation Army campaign featured posters placed in bar bathrooms and billboards in the Downtown Eastside, as well as radio and TV items, presenting images of young women being beaten and abused.

The Christian social-services group launched its campaign last September, fearing a spike in such trafficking as the 2010 Winter Olympics approach.

Sally Ann spokesman Jonny Michel apologized to women upset by the ads, but said the intentions behind them were good -- and insisted the ads are staying put.

"We were not targeting sex-trade workers," Michel said. "The focus is not on the general sex trade, it is focused on the women being forced to have sex against their will."

The Salvation Army will open the first shelter for trafficking victims in Canada next fall in B.C. It will be a 10-bed facility staffed 24 hours.

shunter@theprovince.com
 

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Great job, Susi! You know how much I admire and support your work. That's why I nominated you as my favourite media spokesperson on tnt. You inspire us all. xoxo
 
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