Correct Protocol for supplying references

[Toon]

In trying to book an appointment, I've been asked to supply a reference from a previous companion. I'm not sure what the correct protocol is here.

For now, I've just supplied the names and email addresses of a couple companions I've seen. Is that correct?

Should I email those SPs and inform them I've used them as references? Should I have asked permission from them first? Instead of supplying contact email, am I supposed to contact the previous girls and ask them to email the SP that's asking for references?

And... Since I don't see alot of girls, and the appointments are far and few between, I'm concerned they may not even remember me enough to make a recommendation.

How does one go about this?

 

[Ms. Yoko Anna]

How about thinking in this way....
When you prepare your resume to apply jobs, you need references.
Wouldn't you ask those people that someone may contact them to ask about you?
So they can be prepared to say, "oh, yes that guy, he is a great worker!"
Otherwise they may "who are you talking about? John? John who? Smith? Tall one? Bald one?"

Same thing with us.
Unless you remind us who you are and what kind of moments/conversations we had, we may not be able to remember you especially if the appointment was long time ago and only once.
You should definitely contact those ladies you have previously seen, tell them,
"hey this is John, I saw you an year ago or so at your place. we talked about dropping a crab trap and going to salmon fishing but license was expired yada yada yada...."

 

[Toon]

Yes, that makes sense. Seems obvious too, now that I think of it.

Ah well, live and learn. I've contacted the potential references and politely asked if they can recommend me. I'll tried to jog their memories and apologized for stepping out of bounds regarding protocol.

Thanks!!! (and wish me luck)

 

[Elmore]

I ran into the same problem a while back and the escort just referred to my posting history. Otherwise, just see another lady who has a less strict screening process. There are so many to choose from.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

make sure you fill us in on the service and attitude aspect of your visit after you see her - i'm curious

 

[sevenofnine]

you would give the name of the last lady you have seen or perhaps the lady you have seen the most with her contact info
both names actually
and it would be polite to give the ladies in question a heads up and perhaps a reminder of who you were if it was a long time since you have seen them.


personally i find giving references annoying, even though i rarely see anyone but my regular sp, i guess in part that is the reason
one lady i wanted to see wants full contact info home and work, with full name,
well give me your full name and home phone number to ok.

like some one said post alot, and well the ladies will know you, which maybe a good or bad thing,
a couple of ladies i wanted to see but they want a reference, i never saw them, to lazy to suppy a reference, or perhaps even long term with a very nice i don't want to offend her by asking her for a reference,

i mean were long term and shared alot between us, it just seems awkard to see anyone else, and need her as a reference, though i have,
seen others sps, and never hidden it from my long term sp it just strikes me as awkard that like i need to ask her permission to see another women,

it seems funny to me as well, i can email some high end escort, and she says come on over, but some local sp, needs several references

 

[Toon]

I'm not upset that references were asked for. If it makes her feel safer, then good - it's more likely she'll be more relaxed when I first meet her. It is a bit of effort, but nothing in life is free, and I don't mind doing a bit of work for something worth having.

Personal info... I'm nervous about that, but I've never HAD to supply any so far.

Vancity cowboy, I'll let you know how things went after. I'm optimistic.

 

[Toon]

Thanks for the input, Vanessa.

True: less likely to have an issue with personal info and well known girls. To date, I've only seen girls that are well reviewed, and I've not been too worried about providing my cell number.

On another note - Vanessa, you do look worth of considering, but currently slightly out of my price range. (damn!!!... I may just have to man-up!)

 

[Toon]

Feh!

When I asked three different girls if they would mind acting as references, two got back and said no problem!!. The third has retired, so I don't really expect a response.

"Unprofessional"? I think it's more professional.

 

[Sucre]

Are you guys nuts? I would never under any circumstances visit an sp that required references! It's none of her business period! Some of these gals have major rivalries goin on no need to fan the flames, avoid these broads they are unprofessional!

Sorry I agree with hatrick. You will give an unknown person confidential information about yourself. If you do not know them, how do you guarantee they will not abuse the info. Maybe a call to your gf, wife, business, employer, etc.? Maybe a police sting?

Are they going to give you that same personal info? They all use fake names, but want your real name? You are hiring them not the other way around. You need the references, (reviews) - best they can expect is see you in their security camera before they give you the suite number.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

it has been quite a while since we've seen one of those classic public meltdowns that used to occur on the review boards on a regular basis, where something happens in an escort's life to cause her to decide to leave the business in a way that causes as much collateral damage as possible. damage to her former handlers, damage to other escorts that are still being handled by her former handlers, and damage to clients. but there will be more meltdowns - count on it

and believe me, if one of them involves an escort that collects personal information on clients, that requires 'references', or that requires your posting handle before you can book with her - you are going to look pretty damn silly, and you will live through some VERY stressful days and nights as you scramble to contain the damage and ensure that your pooning life doesn't become common knowledge in your workplace or at your family dinner table

think about what you have to lose, and look after number one, before you begin to worry about whether the escort is 'comfortable' with booking clients without references

this reference business is what they do in the usa where prostitution IS illegal and county sheriffs DO run stings around re-election time in order to get voted back in, but in my opinion they are totally unnecessary in Canada. if an escort has even a TINY bit of street smarts as well as a backup security plan, then she will be able to pick out the bad clients through emails and telephone calls. that should be all the screening necessary

so in case you haven't figured it out yet, i am against the practice and i have walked in the past when asked to provide references - to no great loss as far as i can tell :nod:

 

[BanginBroads]

Having another SP vouch for you is one thing, but when an SP starts asking you to email her from a work domain that is beyond crossing the line imo. Why an SP would need to verify where you work or that you have a job is quite frankly none of anyone's business. Especially since we aren't getting the same reciprocation. Why should you know all about me, when I know nothing about you? It's totally absurd. Not to mention, if you were to provide such information, how does one guarantee that information stays with them? Do you even know if its the SP herself handling the information?

One reason I won't ever go back to the Den is the whole ID thing. Nobody needs to know my address or real name. Nobody's fuckin' business.

 

[Dickson]

In the US it is very common. I have been asked to provide the reference of another service provider I have been with. No problem as they know as much about me as the new SP. So no problem. I do draw the line when they want my work number. I would never give them my work number or my passport information. Hell no. I do not need the damage control. I had one SP who was to travel with me call me on my private number while I was in a meeting that was a nightmare. I will call them unless it is an emergency. Texting not as big an issure as I can control it. Until they start calling me every other day because they need money. It was almost like having a kid or wife. Shut that down in a hurry. Learned my lesson.

I have a few SP who I saw for years who my personal assistant has communicated regarding travel arrangements. However they were "friends" then.

 

[Dgodus]

Meh references are no big deal. Personal info is dependant on your situation. If my family found out they wouldn't be happy (well my dad would get a kick outta it) but they would be happy it wasn't cocaine. Work, pffft I work in the trades, nobody cares, most people assume alot of people are, and some guys openly talk about. If people found out at work it would just be extra ribbing, since I'm the worst at giving people hard time, not gonna bother me.

Edit: out of curiosity (and it's better to know) what can I search to find some of these "meltdowns" I'm certain simply searching something vague like meltdown is gonna lead to way too much chaff to sift thru

 

[Ms. Yoko Anna]

Agree with Vanesssa.
I would also add a point that it is crucial for touring girls to book appointments with only serious pooners.
Gentlemen with active review posting history are less likely to give ladies no-show, I believe.
Gentlemen with good references from other ladies are less likely to give no-show as well.

Some ladies do have few options for screening.
For the purpose of securing the appointment, if someone does not want to (or cannot) give me reference nor handle name, they can put deposit down. If they use a prepaid credit card, their info should be safe.

I do screening process in cities where I experienced a umber of cancellations/no-shows.
In Victoria, Vancouver, and some other cities, nah, it is a pain-in-ass process for me as well.
But it is worth as it can avoid some of potential appointments that I end up waisting time.

 

[Pillowtalk]

it has been quite a while since we've seen one of those classic public meltdowns that used to occur on the review boards on a regular basis, where something happens in an escort's life to cause her to decide to leave the business in a way that causes as much collateral damage as possible. damage to her former handlers, damage to other escorts that are still being handled by her former handlers, and damage to clients. but there will be more meltdowns - count on it

and believe me, if one of them involves an escort that collects personal information on clients, that requires 'references', or that requires your posting handle before you can book with her - you are going to look pretty damn silly, and you will live through some VERY stressful days and nights as you scramble to contain the damage and ensure that your pooning life doesn't become common knowledge in your workplace or at your family dinner table

think about what you have to lose, and look after number one, before you begin to worry about whether the escort is 'comfortable' with booking clients without references

this reference business is what they do in the usa where prostitution IS illegal and county sheriffs DO run stings around re-election time in order to get voted back in, but in my opinion they are totally unnecessary in Canada. if an escort has even a TINY bit of street smarts as well as a backup security plan, then she will be able to pick out the bad clients through emails and telephone calls. that should be all the screening necessary

so in case you haven't figured it out yet, i am against the practice and i have walked in the past when asked to provide references - to no great loss as far as i can tell :nod:

I don't get all the fear mongering about this issue. You either provide a reference from an sp you've seen OR you provide the contact info she needs to see you are serious. It isn't both, its usually either/or. Obviously giving references for a new sp to check is preferable to giving out personal info, so why not provide references. Trying to make mountain out of nothing, if you ask me.

Obviously, fly by night sps aren't checking references, or asking for personal info, they are amatuers and won't be asking for the info in the first place. And just as obvious so no idea why it has to be said at all, but you aren't giving out references (or contact info) to any old sp, you are giving them only to sps who have good reviews, good reputation, and good presence. If vanesssa only books by reference, and you want to see vanesssa, why would you be at all concerned about providing them.


fwiw, some of you seem to think you have NO information whatsoever about sps you contact, when in fact you have access to reviews, their website, and their advertising, email/pm/board postings/ and phone #s. That's a heckuvalot more than she has from you.

 

[Elmore]

Plenty of women do not require references and they are not "fly by night". If a person does not feel comfortable with the information required of them then they need not begrudgingly provide it. Just move on and see one of the 90% who do not require references.

 

[DavidMR]

I can only recall being asked for a reference once, and it was simply a positive referal from another SP. Nothing to do with other contact ID.

In the past I sometimes used my work phone and email to communicate with SPs, and never had a problem with that becuase only I had access to the PW. I suppose IT did as well, but they would only be called upon if the employer was having a problem with me in some other respect.

 

[Dgodus]

I don't always ask, starting with an intro email telling me a bit about yourself always helps

This worked out perfectly for me when I started out. Although I can be a tad long winded, but I imagine it gave her a better sense of who she would be dealing with.

 

[DavidMR]

This is the only reason I can think of to ask for a reference.

I don't always ask, starting with an intro email telling me a bit about yourself always helps

Well, ... in fact, you were the one who asked for that reference! LOL. I got one from a girl named "Asha" who has since left the biz. I hope that exchange is still current in case I find the funds to see you sometime this Spring.