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Call me a prude but this guy is scum. I do occasional BDSM 'light' but take no pleasure in degrading or hurting anyone. And i certainly have no interest in subbing lol. How does one derive pleasure from hanging a woman up naked and pretending to slash her neck? And taking pictures! Fucking sick and truly disturbing this guy was allowed to remain in the force and be a part of the Pickton investigation. Cover-up or incompetence?



VANCOUVER — Corporal Jim Brown has worked from the RCMP’s Coquitlam detachment for decades. He played a small but important role in the Mounties’ investigation of Robert (Willie) Pickton, the serial killer who murdered women and disposed of their bodies on a pig farm just a few kilometres from the same Coquitlam detachment.

Cpl. Brown had an alter ego: A boot-wearing, knife-wielding sadomasochist. In a shocking story published Thursday, Vancouver Sun columnist Ian Mulgrew described several photographs made available for public viewing on Internet websites catering to bondage and sadomasochism enthusiasts. There is Cpl. Brown, “posing in sexually explicit torture images reminiscent of [Pickton’s] crimes.”

The veteran Mountie “appears to wear only his regulation-issue Mountie boots and an erection as he wields a huge knife and a bound naked woman cringes in terror,” writes Mr. Mulgrew, referring to just some of the photos in existence. The Mountie is also depicted grappling with the naked woman, and slashing at her with his knife.

Hundreds more photos of Cpl. Brown in various S&M positions continue to circulate on the Internet. It’s wretched stuff. Just as disturbing, Cpl. Brown’s RCMP superiors have known about the photos since December 2010. An internal investigation was initiated then, and a decision was made to let the matter slide.

In an email exchange Thursday with the National Post, RCMP Supt. Ray Bernoties explained that “[RCMP] Legal Services deemed this to be off duty, non-criminal, adult consensual activity during which the individual was not representing himself as a member of the RCMP and thus did not appear to them to meet the threshold for a Code of Conduct violation.

“While I agree the staged images are very graphic, they appear only on an adult site catering to those that seek them out,” Supt. Bernoties continued. “Having said that, I am very concerned and frankly embarrassed that the RCMP would, in any way, be linked to photos of this nature.”

The Post has learned that other sexually explicit photographs depicting Cpl. Brown were discovered inside the Coquitlam detachment itself. The digitally rendered photos were stored in a small USB device, which was left inserted in a computer and found by other RCMP members.

Supt. Bernoties confirmed the existence of the USB device and its sexually explicit file contents. He added that “the RCMP first learned of the graphic staged photos around December 2010. This activity was investigated at that time and legal opinion sought. In March 2012, the issue of the member’s life style was again investigated. Following that, Cpl. Brown’s personal website was terminated.”

According to sources, Cpl. Brown is now working in an administrative capacity inside the Coquitlam detachment.

Something — media scrutiny, perhaps — has triggered the Mounties to take another, more thorough look at Cpl. Brown’s off-duty, adult consensual activities. They have launched a formal Code of Conduct review, “examining all the events,” to be conducted by RCMP members in Richmond.

“We have also taken the unusual step of requesting an external police agency to conduct an independent review of the internal investigation,” Supt. Bernoties told the Post.

A number of Code of Conduct reviews have been launched lately. Some involve officers convicted of crimes such as assault, theft, and drunk driving. Other officers have admitted to inappropriate sexual behaviour. The list of offences is lengthy.

The reviews are part of the RCMP’s discipline process and performed by “impartial” Mounties, usually drawn from a Professional Standards Unit. They rarely end with a dismissal order against an offending officer. Usually, an offender is docked some pay. Officers can appeal decisions, which can add years to the lengthy and cumbersome process. In many cases, officers retire before disciplinary procedures are completed.

Based on appearances in his sadomasochism photos, Cpl. Brown looks to be at the typical retirement age for an RCMP member.

We have also taken the unusual step of requesting an external police agency to conduct an independent review of the internal investigation
His name and his Internet nickname — Kilted Knight — were discussed during hearings at the Missing Women Commission of Inquiry, formed to examine why police bungled their investigations of Robert Pickton.

The inquiry heard that in 1999, Cpl. Brown “produced” a key Pickton informant for the Vancouver Police Department. The source had knowledge about criminal activities — including murder — on the Pickton farm. Sadly, three more years passed before RCMP arrested Pickton. He was eventually charged with 26 counts of murder, and tried in 2007. He was convicted on six counts of murder and sentenced to life in prison.

In May, an inquiry lawyer representing the families of Pickton’s victims suggested to two sworn witnesses — both former Coquitlam detachment members — that Cpl. Brown and other RCMP officers had, in the 1990s, attended social functions at Piggy’s Palace, a local booze can run by Pickton and his brother David, and popular with Hells Angels gang members.

Both of the former Coquitlam officers denied any knowledge of RCMP social visits to Piggy’s Palace.

Inquiry commissioner Wally Oppal said in a statement late Thursday that he has “no evidence to support reopening” the inquiry hearings, which concluded in June; however, he has asked his commission counsel to look into the Brown-sadomasochism revelations, and B.C.’s Ministry of Justice has been notified. Mr. Oppal has until the end of October to submit his inquiry report to B.C.’s justice minister, Shirley Bond.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/07/05/brian-hutchinson-rcmp-launch-new-code-of-conduct-review-after-officer-caught-posing-like-pickton-in-sm-photos/
 

violetblake

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I actually disagree a little bit. Providing all the sexual acts were totally consensual, people should be free to do whatever they please in their spare time. It's actually pleasantly surprising that the RCMP recognized that, at first anyway, and left it alone saying it was his own business. Granted, I haven't actually seen these pictures, maybe that might change my mind. But fantasies are fantasies, and although it may be tempting to question someone who would be into that sort of thing, it's not really fair as they may be totally normal, and it's just a fantasy.
 

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What if you were assaulted or raped and he was the investigating officer? Do you think he could be unbiased, would you trust him?
 

violetblake

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Well first off, I wouldn't trust any cop to be fair and objective for anything, let alone investigating a rape lol. And honestly I don't know what I would think at a time like that, but their behaviour when speaking with me would probably be the biggest indicator of whether I trusted them, if he seemed genuinely caring and like he really wanted to catch the guy, then I could care less what he does in his spare time. So long as he does his job. But as I said, I just don't trust any cop, period lol.
 

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I agree with Violet in that an interest in BDSM doesn't signify a departure from ethical standards. It often seems to me that mainstream society could learn from the overt discussions around consent and boundaries among the BDSM community.

However, I do feel uneasy about this development given the blind eye turned to the Pickton farm alongside a sadistic (needless beatings) and misogynistic culture (see Catherine Galliford) among the RCMP. I don't trust Jim Brown or any facet of the RCMP to be ethical.
 
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Horse99

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very unfortunately, the RCMP considers this ok and not affecting his work......I hope they are finished wondering why so few people respect them or consider them truthful.
 

vidboy6969

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I wonder if the Pickton case psychologically affected him to the point where he wants to act out those fantasies, or if he was already into BDSM before the investigation? :confused:
lots of commentary on this topic on the Bill Good show this morning on CKNW, check out the audio vault on their website
 

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I think the issue is more of credibility than anything. An example that comes to mind is David Suzuki. Mr. Suzuki is world renowned for his efforts and opinions on global warming and related issues, but someone recently told me he has 5 kids. I haven't verified this fact, but regardless, how do you reconcile having 5 kids with an argument for reducing global warming caused by overpopulation and consumption?

I agree that Jim Brown should be able to do what he likes on his own time, however the fact that he chose to allow his private follies to be broadcast and available to the public tells me that he isn't really that interested in keeping it private. Furthermore, being an RCMP officer who, more than many, is fully aware of how much of the population view this sort of sexual behaviour, he still chose to publicize it anyway. This is hypocritical. No matter how impartial he may be, we're a society that bases many of our decisions on looks, and this doesn't look good. The appearance for many, is that acting or not, he condones this sort of behaviour and will have a hard time not turning a blind eye to it in his professional life.

I'm sure he's probably a nice guy. He just needs a refresher course in the use of discretion.
 

wilde

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I think some people act out so they won't have to do the real thing...

If you hold him to a moral standard higher than the rest of us, then he should be disciplined. If you hold him to a moral standard the same as the rest of us, he should not be punished as no laws were broken.
 

Miss*Bijou

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I think the issue is more of credibility than anything. An example that comes to mind is David Suzuki. Mr. Suzuki is world renowned for his efforts and opinions on global warming and related issues, but someone recently told me he has 5 kids. I haven't verified this fact, but regardless, how do you reconcile having 5 kids with an argument for reducing global warming caused by overpopulation and consumption?

David Suzuki is like 76. He does have five kids - his youngest being 32 years old. 2 of his kids born in the 70's and the first 3 born in the late 50's/early 60's. I somehow don't think he or anyone else knew much about global warming yet so I don't see how the number of kids he has really changes anything about his message now...? ;)


David Suzuki has five children, he had three children (Tamiko, Laura, and Troy) to his first wife Setsuko Joane Sunahara who was his high school sweetheart. They married in 1958 and divorced in 1965. In 1972 Suzuki married Tara Elizabeth Cullis, they had two daughters Sarika and Severn.
 

Volpina Vance

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The veteran Mountie “appears to wear only his regulation-issue Mountie boots and an erection as he wields a huge knife and a bound naked woman cringes in terror,”
A comment: The fact of his wearing his work boots as fetish objects (his only actual clothing in the scene) may speak to a need for greater discernment between work and play.
 
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westcoast555

What if you were assaulted or raped and he was the investigating officer? Do you think he could be unbiased, would you trust him?
I understand the optics... but seriously.. consensual role play and abuse are entirely different things. I have my own personal preferences and am somewhat suspicious of people who partake in 'mock violence' but the ONLY question here is... is the girl in the picture partaking of her own free will? If she is then she's not a victim and the guy's behavior is neither criminal nor immoral.

Any one who thinks he some how compares with Pickton has a screw loose. This is private personal behavior and should not be a big new story.
 

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I think some people act out so they won't have to do the real thing...

If you hold him to a moral standard higher than the rest of us, then he should be disciplined. If you hold him to a moral standard the same as the rest of us, he should not be punished as no laws were broken.

Well said wilde. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Problem that I see was he was involved with the Picton enquiry and every lawyer is putting on the rubber gloves and poking around each and every witness. Doubtful they will find anyone 'pure' enough to be credible if they are compared to any of "us".
 

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Some of you guys have got to be fucking kidding me right? What's with all the moral indignation of/with what two consenting adults do behind closed doors on an escort review board.

Assuming that he can't investigate a sexual offence without bias is like someone who doesn't poon thinking that us johns are moral degenerates and are a step away from raping underage girls, while the women are a bunch of whores who make married men stray!

Seriously give your heads a shake!

PS for the record, I'm not a fan of the RCMP or most police forces!
 

encarsia

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Well the pictures released to the media is of another couple doing a hardcore shock photo shoot. They are not Jim Brown the 2 males look very simular. I believe I have met the person in the hardcore pictures at play parties. So what Jim Brown has done was being in part of his uniform his boots. If they did not link him to the hardcore pictures we would not have even heard aboutthis part of his life
 
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