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Brock_Landers

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Okay, so I am having what I would consider an abnormal relationship with an SP.
On our first appointment, we got along great, had a fabulous couple hours, and was overall an excellent experience.
Now, about 10 minutes after I left, she begins txting me, telling me how much she enjoyed it, yadda yadda. We went back and forth for an hour or so, and I enjoyed it.
The next day, she begins txting me again, saying that we should go out again, but on her time, to a movie, or dinner or somesuch. We txt back and forth for several days, usually initiated by her, and I book her again after about 4 days. Another great experience, I booked for an hour, was there almost 2. Lots of nice talking, exploring and getting to know you stuff.
We txt every day, probably 40-50 per day. We have seen each other on a non professional level, and shared many thoughts, secrets and aspects of both of our lives.
Now, I am not stupid, and wrote it off for the longest time that it was purely lip service to keep me coming back, and was willing to play along because it was always worth it.
The confusing part: there have been a few times where for various reasons I could not respond to her txts or phone calls.
 

Brock_Landers

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And then it got weird. Things like, you should have told me that I would not be talking to you today, or is that level of respect to much to ask because I am not your wife....etc etc along the same lines.

Wtf? Is this woman just playing me, pe what? She has mentioned that the monatary exchange has to end soon, and I have usually only booked for an hour, and have spent 3 with her a few times, and overnight once. We get along well, talk all the time, I just need another opinion!!

Thanks!
 

Stew

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Others will chime in on this, likely with better advice but here goes. If she says the monetary exchange has to end that sounds like she wants to date you rather than play you for continuing donations.

While free sex with a professional sounds like fun to many, it appears that she has an emotional manipulative streak in her that can probably only end badly. If she is sending you messages like that at the beginning, one can only imagine the messages that come with escalation should the emotional investment become greater.

My advice is to walk away now and not look back..
 

plurmurphy

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I think Stew is totally right. I would for sure walk away due to alot of reasons. That seems a bit odd and she seems like shes a bit insecure/controlling if she keeps texting and wont stop. I would be careful just my 2 cents though wait to see what others have to say.
 

Harmony-bc

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And then it got weird. Things like, you should have told me that I would not be talking to you today, or is that level of respect to much to ask because I am not your wife....etc etc along the same lines.

Thanks!
Based on this line alone, I say run, not walk, but run away.

She sounds insecure, manipulative, emotional, and unreasonale. Very scary. Now my friends in my personal life will all tell you I am commitment phobic and hate to be trapped, but she is looking to trap you in a disfunctional, unhealthy relationship. It might be lots of fun because there is surely to be tons of passion, but it will end very badly. It also sounds like she has major stalker potential :eek:
 

JustJess

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been there done that. freebie is good, just dont forget to where a hat.
Yes and it seems there might be a level of secretive trapping there or something of the sort....I'd watch my *ss so to speak....this sounds like it has the potential to lead into something VERY VERY bad...

Stick with your instincts.....
 

Sucre

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my take

Also been there done that, one hour encounters become 5 etc., starts as opportunity but later becomes almost obligation and you have to justify yourself if anything else comes up of you do not see her or talk to her enough.

I totally respect Harmony and tend to agree with her except for advise to run fast. As a man, its also cool to have a hot sp chick want you, with potential for free or apparent low cost sex with someone you dig. There is nothing wrong with enjoying it depending on your significant other situation with a great big caveat. Rather than run, you need to slow it down, fast unless you have fallen for her. But if that is situation don’t ask and don’t complain when she gets heavy. She already probably knows too much about your real id and job etc that she can mess you up if you run, so instead slow it down. Far less txts to start and less visits. Excuses can be used as required – others snooping on your phone, business trips out of town etc., all the while confirming you like her. Eventually she will find another guy or lose her potential for venom and you can then walk, or who knows maybe a more healthy relationship will develop
 

Valium

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I have been in almost exactly the same situation.

The way i see it there are 3 possibilities:
1. She is playing a game to keep you coming back.
2. She is using you as a safety net. Some providers cannot have a real relationship due to emotional issues and their work, but still take comfort knowing that they have someone around other than clients.
3. She genuinely likes you and wants to take the relationship to a different level.

If she really wants to take the money out of the picture then you can rule out the first possibility. If it is the second scenario she will be more manipulative, jealous and suspicious than the typical girlfriend and you should end it as soon as possible. Nothing good can come from that.

However if it is the third possibility then you are one of the lucky few and i say you should see where it goes. You have to make the decision for yourself how much you like this girl and how much risk you are willing to take to find out the truth. One note of caution: we have seen many provider/client relationships discussed on this board and i can't recall any that ended well.

If you decide to pass on her send me her contact info and i will take her off your hands. :D
 
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Harmony-bc

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Also been there done that, one hour encounters become 5 etc., starts as opportunity but later becomes almost obligation and you have to justify yourself if anything else comes up of you do not see her or talk to her enough.

I totally respect Harmony and tend to agree with her except for advise to run fast. As a man, its also cool to have a hot sp chick want you, with potential for free or apparent low cost sex with someone you dig. There is nothing wrong with enjoying it depending on your significant other situation with a great big caveat. Rather than run, you need to slow it down, fast unless you have fallen for her. But if that is situation don’t ask and don’t complain when she gets heavy. She already probably knows too much about your real id and job etc that she can mess you up if you run, so instead slow it down. Far less txts to start and less visits. Excuses can be used as required – others snooping on your phone, business trips out of town etc., all the while confirming you like her. Eventually she will find another guy or lose her potential for venom and you can then walk, or who knows maybe a more healthy relationship will develop
Thanks for the respect, love. :)

I'm not telling him to run because she is an sp. I'm telling him to run because it sounds like she has some serious obsessive issues. lol Its not free sex if you have to work so hard for it, lol

I have been the victim of crazy obsessive stalkers more than once. Its nuts. She has the symptoms.
 

maroonedsailor

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You must be under 30

That you actually have to ask for advice is frightening. You're getting good advice from smart people - RUN and don't forget to cut the strings tied to your nuts.
 

godfather_77

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I am in total agreement about just walking away. How you describe her reactions when you do not contact her seem to indicate a bit of an obsession with you or what you might represent to her. My concern would be what secrets you have told her and do they compromise, as Sucre suggetsed, any existing relationship, romantic or otherwise. If so running away may lead to some potentially damaging retribution. You may need to talk yourself out of this if she has damaging information about you, even if she does not have the information let her at least know that you do not want to continue as Sucre and others suggested.
 

Brock_Landers

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Thank you all for the advice, I appreciate it. It is nice to have another opinion.

We got together last night, and had a great, non sexual date. Talked lots, discussed feelings, and ideas etc. She is a very diverse, smart woman, very confidant, powerful and sure of herself. Yet at the came time she seems to need constant reassuring that I am attracted to her.

As far as screwing up my life, I definitely know more about her real life than she does about mine, I have been careful about that.

I am taking it one day at a time for now, and she has left town for a week this morning, so it will be interesting to see what develops.

Thanks again to all!
 
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westcoast555

Fuck her for free... she likes you

And then it got weird. Things like, you should have told me that I would not be talking to you today, or is that level of respect to much to ask because I am not your wife....etc etc along the same lines.

Wtf? Is this woman just playing me, pe what? She has mentioned that the monatary exchange has to end soon, and I have usually only booked for an hour, and have spent 3 with her a few times, and overnight once. We get along well, talk all the time, I just need another opinion!!

Thanks!
She will eventually go psycho on you and be a pain in the ass.. and be demanding and emotionally trying... but that's the true 'GFE" !
 

Brock_Landers

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Wow. It's been a long time coming, and I should have updated this sooner.

All those giving me advice to RUN, I wish I had listened.

Clincally, truly, certifiably insane.

MAJOR stalking issues, took me a few months to finally get rid of her. Basically, there came a point where she was in a financial bind, and presented me a bill for "services" and demanded payment or her "friends" would visit me at work, and wait there until I paid them. It truly scared the shit out of me to realize how much and how deep she embedded herself into my life, and I hadn't even noticed it.

The sad part is, I really liked this girl, and had many exciting, fun filled non sexual nights with her, and truly (foolishly) hoped it may go somewhere.

Oh well, life goes on!!!


Thank you to everyone on here that pm'd and responded. This is truly a great site, and helped me alot.
 

Krustee

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Wow. It's been a long time coming, and I should have updated this sooner.

All those giving me advice to RUN, I wish I had listened.

Clincally, truly, certifiably insane.

MAJOR stalking issues, took me a few months to finally get rid of her. Basically, there came a point where she was in a financial bind, and presented me a bill for "services" and demanded payment or her "friends" would visit me at work, and wait there until I paid them. It truly scared the shit out of me to realize how much and how deep she embedded herself into my life, and I hadn't even noticed it.

The sad part is, I really liked this girl, and had many exciting, fun filled non sexual nights with her, and truly (foolishly) hoped it may go somewhere.

Oh well, life goes on!!!


Thank you to everyone on here that pm'd and responded. This is truly a great site, and helped me alot.

Sorry to hear that happened to you Brock.

I have had some similar experiences & sadly, it's just something that goes with the territory.

As you may or may not know there are some SP's & other non-sp girls who have slight to strong emotional issues.

Some suffer from clinical depression & some are bi-polar & some were just born under a weird star I guess.

All of the above can be managed or treated to an extent & hopefully those who recognize these 'issues' will seek the necessary treatment to make themselves & those in their lives feel better.

I had the opportunity to meet & get to know some truly beautiful & wonderful women in my time - but unfortunately, some of them were just a little off center (& some certifiable nuts) so it is important to recognize this when you see it & try to be understanding.

They may act like nuthin you have ever seen before & you will not be able to figure out what the hell they are thinkin but trust me -
hard as you try there's some wheels turnin in that noggin that you will never figure out!

Sometimes these gals will react in an overly emotional way with either too much luv or overboard hate & seething madness.

Best for you to just realize that they are either unbalanced during that time or could just be having a bad day.

Go to any escort site or modeling agency & you will see & meet some gals who are knock your socks off hott!

But they may be a bit .... eccentric.... ??

I will say that some of the "crazy gals" I've been with were the best sex I ever had.

It takes a truly understanding & selfless person to be able to be in a relationship with these types of girls & you need to enter in to a relationship with them knowing what you are getting into.

Who knows it could be something that works out or be a painful experience.

Tread carefully & care where you tread!


:cool:

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rampart

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I started reading this and then realized it was a few months old. As soon as Harmony said Run that was the time to Run. I do not even know Harmony other than what she posts here but she seems like a pretty together woman. And when a woman tells you to run from a woman Do It Like Yesterday.

SP or not anytime emotional imbalance makes you feel weird talk to friends, take yourself out for dinner, whatever. Be good to yourself and take care of yourself.
 

oh3421

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Scary

Wow. It's been a long time coming, and I should have updated this sooner.

All those giving me advice to RUN, I wish I had listened.

Clincally, truly, certifiably insane.

MAJOR stalking issues, took me a few months to finally get rid of her. Basically, there came a point where she was in a financial bind, and presented me a bill for "services" and demanded payment or her "friends" would visit me at work, and wait there until I paid them. It truly scared the shit out of me to realize how much and how deep she embedded herself into my life, and I hadn't even noticed it.

The sad part is, I really liked this girl, and had many exciting, fun filled non sexual nights with her, and truly (foolishly) hoped it may go somewhere.

Oh well, life goes on!!!


Thank you to everyone on here that pm'd and responded. This is truly a great site, and helped me alot.
Wow this is truly scary. We all try to treat girls with highest respect (as if they had just one generic job), and then they turn around and use "shaming" us as johns as a weapon for monetary extortion. I know this one is more like an exception, and most ladies wouldn't do that, but still important to keep in your mind... specifically when things unravel at the end, it is NOT as if going out with the Safeway girl next door....

She sure took you through the roller coaster, but isn't that what's life is all about? - you had you highly memorable moments with her.. you will never forget - now you MUST move on. A lesson from this could be to never allow a girl so much control over your life.. FIFTY txts per DAY, that's SICK man (that's almost as much time as I spent on Craigslist :D - wayyy too much). Women will always try to take control over your ENTIRE life and cut off your balls....
 

treveller

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Respect

Topper, respecting a person's wishes based on what they say works both ways, whether you are being cut off or invited to stay free.

The extra time she wanted to spend with you may have had more to do with her than you. You should accept and respect what she said until or unless you have good reason to doubt it. Brock had good reason but you do not apparently.

Trying to slip her money for time she said was a gift of her choosing would not be cool. You offered and she said no as I understand. Respect that. If you enjoyed the time and want some more then just pay accordingly and show your appreciation and respect by not expecting more free time.

At the same time I have been told that flowers are appropriate in any case.
 

FunSugarDaddy

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Wow. It's been a long time coming, and I should have updated this sooner.

All those giving me advice to RUN, I wish I had listened.

Clincally, truly, certifiably insane.

MAJOR stalking issues, took me a few months to finally get rid of her. Basically, there came a point where she was in a financial bind, and presented me a bill for "services" and demanded payment or her "friends" would visit me at work, and wait there until I paid them. It truly scared the shit out of me to realize how much and how deep she embedded herself into my life, and I hadn't even noticed it.

The sad part is, I really liked this girl, and had many exciting, fun filled non sexual nights with her, and truly (foolishly) hoped it may go somewhere.

Oh well, life goes on!!!


Thank you to everyone on here that pm'd and responded. This is truly a great site, and helped me alot.
While I haven't been exactly where you're at I've been damn close. I was in a Sugar Baby relationship for a little over 3 years, and once you get emotionally involved it becomes very difficult, especially if you have an SO. Most of these beautiful women have issues and whether or not, you think you've hit the jackpot with a gorgeous young hottie, you really do have to look at the whole picture and what those issues are and whether or not you can deal with them. This is in addition to realizing these are working ladies who may still wish to work while they're seeing you.
 
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