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Confessions of a retired SP.....

OldbutwiseSP

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So I am a newly retired SP and am thinking about writing a book. Here is a taste of the content.

It seems to me that men have this idea that the job outline of an SP is handed to them all neatly printed out in a Sp's guide to the sex industry. Well that couldn't be further from the truth! Now there is some that start their career with an agency and receive some training but sad reality the rest of us either figure it out on our own through many mistakes and/or bad reviews or are jaded by a pimp,madame,house mother or whatever.
Personally I was introduced to the industry when I replied to a want ad for a massage parlor. Yes I knew that I wouldn't be only offering massages but had no idea how any of it went down. I had no idea how or where to advertise, how much to charge or what services I should or shouldn't offer.
I was eager to please and my boss took full advantage. I was a fresh,confident,sexy milf that was misled to believe it was in my best interest to offer pretty much everything except BBFS. So even though I hated greek and it pretty much always hurt, I offered that too.
My boss posted all of the ads and at the time I had no clue where she was advertising or WHAT she was advertising. She answered all the calls as though she was me or one of the other girls. Often times I would be surprised by the client with a request that I wasn't made aware of and couldn't say shit to him because he thought he had negotiated the date with me.Or made aware that my date in 5 mins wanted greek! No time to prep! Omg that was really shitty! No pun intended lol
I got wise pretty quick though and demanding that I not be advertised offering greek and after a few mistakes, where my boss "forgot" that I wasn't doing it anymore I wasn't advertised that way. But it was something that would haunt me all through my career as an SP. Whether it was an old client that had the honor of torturing my rectum or a client that read earlier ads or maybe a review here on perb, there was always a client every so often that would push for it or just do it! Those were the best ones! Not a thought to maybe I wasn't prepped for it, just getting behind me and trying to ram in it fast and dry so maybe I wouldn't say anything OR maybe this was the magician that was going to teach me to love it!Yeah right buddy, the part of that I loved is the sight of you hobbling away in shock and terror as I broke your face with the right hook my dear ole Dad taught me!
Back then we were told to upsell,upsell,upsell. So if he wanted to DATY we would say sure but its $$40 more for that etc,. I wasn't keen on doing that but I received very nice tips probably because I wasn't trying to squeeze every last penny out of them. It wasn't long before a had a good amount of regulars that really liked me and for the most part I really liked them.I had no problem chatting them up, asking about things they cared about, always remembering their name, occupation,marital status,fetishes,fantasies and even a lot about their loved ones.It was instinct for me to know that it was a fine line between being interested in them or appearing to stalk them or obsess over them lol.
I always get asked about the weird ones. What was the weirdest request? Or about the mean ones. Some people seemed to get off on hearing about the mean ones.
But to answer the question of what was the weirdest request I had received well that would have to be the guy that wanted me to be his "mommy" so he could wear a diaper and shit in it and have me change him. He irritated me so much with his constant calling(this was when I was independent)and obsessing over every little detail. He would pretend to book an appt with no intention on showing up and have to call his "mommy" every 15 mins as he supposedly made his way from Surrey to me in Chilliwack with questions of what kind of diapers should he buy? He was at the pharmacy right now picking them up and oh maybe he shouldn't buy them there maybe he should buy they at the grocery store? What do you think Mommy? blah blah blah...well he drove me fucking crazy so eventually I agreed to go to his place. My plan was definitely not what he was expecting but in the end it was actually he who fooled me!He had bounced back n forth from baby to the guy who wanted me to dominate him, to throw him down immediately upon entering his home and piss in his face!And as much as the thought disgusted me I thought I could pull it of in order to get the best of him. I was going to piss in his face all right but he was going to get alot more then piss! SO I made my way out to Surrey, it took awhile because I got lost and when I arrived I was harassed by some local drug dealers who were trying to push their free samples on me.Well the bastard gave me the address of the condo directly across from him so he could watch me, knowing that this particular neighbor was never home during the day. So as I walked up the pathway, told the drug dealers to fuck off, he watched me and decided he didn't like what he saw. He called my cell and told me that I should be embarrassed and ashamed of myself for going out in public dressed the way I was! (I was wearing exactly what he had instructed me to wear) and that I was a disgusting, vile,pathetic, ugly,weak whore! And that there wasn't a chance in this lifetime that he would even consider sullying his good reputation by engaging me in conversation let alone sex!He went up one side of me and down the next.I was stunned but didn't let him know itI told him that really the issue wasn't me but it was the simple fact that he was the freak of nature that no one could stand being near. The one that reeked of stale urine and feces and had disgusting ear wax leaking down his neck and that I knew that he would be the one to break and chicken out. He would never have the courage to even speak to a woman of my intelligence and class. And simply put that I had never intended on giving him any of the creepy things he sooo wanted. That actually my boyfriend was 4 mins behind me and had every intention of ripping him to shreds if he so much as peeked outside! Lastly, I reminded him of all the dirty things I had on him, now his address, email addresses, phone numbers etc., and that I had every intention of circulating this flyer I had printed up informing all of your good upstanding neighbors of the sexual deviant living amongst them.Lol god did I bullshit him good!I had no intention of outing him to anyone.As an SP it is like we take an oath of secrecy and that is one thing that we all know without having to be told.So I wouldn't ever of even dream t of outing him.
Well that's all for now but if you all enjoyed reading this please let me know and I will continue on but if not I don't wish to bore any of you lol[
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OldbutwiseSP

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Could you please post this again, but this time with paragraphs?
Umm well I would but it seems as though I may have struck a nerve here-I guess the truth can hurt at times. But as this isn't something I haven't invested anything but my time in I won't post anymore unless requested.
As these are events that took place in my life I really don't need to be bashed over it. I guess I thought that some of the men out there would be interested in knowing what really goes on when they show up for an appointment that's been double booked or finds the SP to be not at all what he was expecting.
There is also a very positive side that I was looking forward to sharing but alas maybe this isn't the place.
I would like to mention that although these events are real I would never describe a client in a way in which anyone would figure out his identity or of course outright saying his name.Thanks for the feedback.
Peace
 

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Sonny Burnett™;1319152 said:
You covered how you got into the business, how you were treated, anal sex, your more bizarre client requests, how you stood up to some drug dealers, and how you had a relationship with a client that went bad. No need to write a book, you covered all the good stuff.

Should that book get published, the editors and copy editors will be earning their salary with your manuscript.
Lol good point. Oh well nothing ventured, nothing gained! I will stick to my poetry then!
 

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Thanks for letting us sample your memoirs!

Or made aware that my date in 5 mins wanted greek! No time to prep! Omg that was really shitty! No pun intended lol

Whether it was an old client that had the honor of torturing my rectum or a client that read earlier ads or maybe a review here on perb, there was always a client every so often that would push for it or just do it! Those were the best ones! Not a thought to maybe I wasn't prepped for it, just getting behind me and trying to ram in it fast and dry so maybe I wouldn't say anything OR maybe this was the magician that was going to teach me to love it!

And as much as the thought disgusted me I thought I could pull it of in order to get the best of him. I was going to piss in his face all right but he was going to get alot more then piss!

I told him that really the issue wasn't me but it was the simple fact that he was the freak of nature that no one could stand being near. The one that reeked of stale urine and feces and had disgusting ear wax leaking down his neck and that I knew that he would be the one to break and chicken out. He would never have the courage to even speak to a woman of my intelligence and class.
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Hey OldbutwiseSP,

Just finished devouring the colorful 1st installment of your "Confessions"—and I sure hope, there's lots more to come.

I like the way you pull no punches. Almost found myself wincing in pain when reading about the dry anal attempted by clients within 5 min into a session. Good for you to smash their faces in!

As for that guy with diaperism, well, as an SP it's probably advisable to be broadminded. This is a well-defined fetish, and most guys who get off on diapering are harmless. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaper_fetishism

Of course, this particular guy was a nut case. But from the way you describe events unfolding, I think you bear part of the blame for the fiasco.

You say you've just retired but write about "back then" as if it were in the fairly distant past. So I'd guess, your SP experience probably spans at least two decades?

You've a vivid, candid, down-to-earth kind of style that appeals to me. Don't let a few detractors discourage you! Of course, any manuscript of this nature will need several stages of editing.

But the important thing is, begin by spontaneously writing down 100-150 pages of anecdotes and insights, which can then easily be reorganized and polished up with a bit of help. I hope you kept a diary at least from time to time during your working years?

There's always an appetite out there for sex-saturated writings, as evidenced for example by the current "50 Shades" craze. It's also going to be very therapeutic for you to write your autobiography.

I'd definitely advise you to post juicy tidbits from your evolving work on this site.
 

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I always get asked about the weird ones. What was the weirdest request? Or about the mean ones. Some people seemed to get off on hearing about the mean ones. But to answer the question of what was the weirdest request I had received well that would have to be the guy that wanted me to be his "mommy" so he could wear a diaper and shit in it and have me change him.


 

OldbutwiseSP

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Well, she just test marketed it and got gonged. Somehow she turned an opportunity to be interesting into a diaper story. Kind of nowhere to go after that.
LOL well you see I know exactly what you are thinking and why this bothers you. May I ask, are you the guy who wanted me to be his "mommy"? Did you soil your panties? lol okay that was mean and I shouldn't of said it but I know so many of you were thinking the same thing!
That little tidbit was just a quick thrown together example of what I might choose to share. Maybe if it had taken me more then 20 mins to write I would worry about your opinion.
Yes it was an experiment of sorts, as my gf has been pestering me to write all this shit down. I wanted to know if anyone was interested enough for to bother sharing MY life with them.
As far as the experiences go they are real and mine and it doesn't matter what anyone thinks or feels about them now as its in the past and can not be changed. Nor can my feelings and thoughts about them altered by anyone else's opinion.
AS for the shot about paragraphing-my English teachers too were always begging me to pay attention to your sentence structure! The truth is when I write initially it just all pours out and I have to write it down as fast as I can so I don't forget any of it.
I am sure anyone would agree that the fact that I shared any of it with you far outweighs bad grammar.
I can think of sooo many of your complaints about SP's that I could give you an explanation for but if you are just going get weird and whinny let I can't be bothered.
Maybe if you so choose ask me a question or two that has been bugging you? hmm? I won't sugar coat anything and it will be the truth.
Anyways if I do write a book, it won't be for money or fame.
It will be for me. To help me remember as at this young age of not even 40 I have a brain injury that has been affecting my memory as of late. So I guess this was just an experiment on whether I would share it.
Again peace
 

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I always get asked about the weird ones. What was the weirdest request? Or about the mean ones. Some people seemed to get off on hearing about the mean ones. But to answer the question of what was the weirdest request I had received well that would have to be the guy that wanted me to be his "mommy" so he could wear a diaper and shit in it and have me change him.


OMG thats perfect! lol Pretty much how I imagined he would look. But as was said earlier most men with this fetish are harmless and in my experience just feel the need to let go of control. They get tired of taking care of everyone else.Shit I did too!
 

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There are a million stories in the naked city.. Yours is a familiar one .. and i have heard a number of others .. all different .. Every girl that worked as a SP .. thinks they should write a book .. and they should .. but i think it would have to be a book with many different stories in .. If you just want to tell about the reality about SP/ and maybe the their clients ,, then you have to presented form it from all perspectives .. Let the reader decide .. .

Many books are wrote with a predisposed agenda , and most wrote on the subject of SP and prostitution .. usually sole purpose is to condemn . May be will all feel that way some day , clients consumed by condemnation , guilt and shunned by others .. and women that worked in the trade , feeling that they were victims with out chose..

Knowng some of the women in this business personally has given me some insight .. which i have to admit is ever changing and expanding in scope What i may of though was true in the beginning was only half truths .. and .the reasons why ,, women and men partake in the sex trade . are just as varied , from need to enjoying , using , caring and abusing .. and any shade in between .. If some one can honestly write a book on this subject that is not bios , and has a agenda . that feeds the judgmental mass . then may be they can do some good .. to change someone mind about going i to the sex trade , or opens someone eyes .. Those are choses they will have to make them selves ..

Given the true stories .. one story is one part of reality..
 

OldbutwiseSP

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I am flattered that you took the time to pick apart my response to suit your own agenda.If you really are disgusted by me then why all this effort?
Usually when one cares little about something or someone, they spend little or no time writing an essay about it.
That would be time well wasted and well you can't ever get it back.
SO since you have done the opposite then I must thank you, as there is no such thing as negative attention when it comes to these matters.
Goodnight and sweet dreams muffineater!
 

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You know OldbutwiseSP I read Chester Brown's "Paying for it" one day in the summer. Loved it. Sort of wished there was more to it since I paid for a hard cover book and it was digested in a little over an hour. Sure it was written from a Pooner's perspective and in comic book form which made it interesting; I think a version from a SP's perspective could be entertaining.

Imagine a comic book panel with you saying to the pooner "My add said I would take it up the ass? WTF are you talking about?" :pound:
 

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I enjoyed reading your stories. I'm always curious of what the girls that I have seen are really thinking.
 

Tugela

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This sounds eerily similar to those stories about that guy out in Surrey the SPs are constantly complaining and warning about.
 

OldbutwiseSP

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Wow I knew that posting my thoughts would spark some controversy but I am really impressed. You all have very interesting and well thought out comments. I really appreciate it. And break my balls all you want, I wouldn't like to be treated any different. I am so used to writing poetry that I have no clue how to write stories so its definitely something I need to work a lot on. I appreciate everyone's comments and constructive criticism so please don't hold back.
And maybe include an example if at all possible. But please be patient and remember that you guys are getting the very first read without any editing or help.
Miss Melody, I know my example is tame and for me the experience was really more a learning experience as I thought I was outsmarting this guy when really he got exactly what he wanted from me and played me for a fool. lol I still chuckle about it.
Anita, I have a couple SP friends that a shared a client that would bring his own ropes and ask them to tie him up so he couldn't get free. They would try their best, tie him under the bed even but every time they snuck away for a glass of water he would untied and sitting on the bed when they got back lol.
I guess I should save my experiences for later but my point is that over time it all became normal to me so I had other experiences that people would find way too weird to comprehend but I became desensitized and it didn't bother me.
I came to understand the base need for human interaction and didn't cater to everything as I wasn't talented in every area but did find myself exploring things I never thought I would.
Anyways again thank you all for your input, I will try my best to put it to good use.
 

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I'll be honest - I would read the book. Love hearing the stories.
One of my good friends is an SP, and some of her stories fascinate me....
 

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I think that good writing requires an exceptional talent and, quite possibly, can't be learned...like it's either natural or it isn't. There's no point in writing it, if no one will read it. Unless it's just for you and your memories, which is perfectly fine! I'd take a look at www.blurb.com and www.lulu.com

However, most books that make it onto public book store shelves aren't written by the author alone. As has been mentioned previously, but not intending to be mean, you probably have interesting stories that would be worth sharing (on a pretty hot topic, I might add), but you don't really have the gift of good writing.

Don't let that stop you, though, you just keep writing and writing. Put lots of detail in your stories, pull out all the stops, try and remember as much as you can about each incident. One day, when you're good and ready, you'll find a business partner, who will take your stories and turn them into a masterpiece. Between your experiences, and someone else's writing skills, you could make a good chunk of cash!

And, while I like the idea of a blog, starting your project on a good old Word document, and saving each story as you write it, will work too!

Anyhow, there's www.blogger.com or www.wordpress.com

And, yes, I'm speaking from experience, as an avid blogger...
 

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Ok so I am feeling a little ummm like you all think I am maybe a little "slow" lol

So against my better judgement, I am offering up some of my poetry for you all to dissect and hopefully gain a little insight as to who I really am. I am going to beg pathetically that you are kind as I can accept your judgement negative or not but these are poems that mean so very much to me.





For my man, my savior, the only fan, of my misbehavior!

When the world is harsh and full of spite
I hide in your bed and under your weight
You let me stay until everything feels right
And I am no longer scared or full of hate

When I can't look in the mirror or leave the house
You tuck me away where no one can see
Handling me with care I am as small as a mouse
Only your love and protection can be what saves me.

When they come looking to hurt me again
You rise up slowly towering above them all
Daring them to stay and fight as if they were real men
Because when you stand for me, never can you fall.

Too little, Too late. RIP TVJ Feb25/08



Sometimes you made me angry
harsh words we both said
always misunderstanding
unable to express the words in my head

But when I felt lost and worthless
or just a little sad and blue
needing some comfort and assurance
with open arms it was you that I would run to

Not often enough do I tell you
how much you mean to me
not often enough do I show you
how your love set me free

Now that we've been apart for so long
A product of my selfish doing
I can see my leaving was wrong
And now your hate for me is brewing.

I broke your trust and lost your love
Thinking you were like all the rest
When really you fit me like a glove
And in losing you,I lost the best​
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i enjoy writing myself and its hard to put your self out there and well be judged.

its a funny thing but i noticed, im writing a story well just about my child hood growing up what it was like to well have a father going to jail for rape,
and its hard to write a non fiction story.
but i have several fictional stories out there on the web, and there much easier to write,
the flow of the story is just a lot easier for some reason.

and that is what i picked up with your writing it didn't flow well. it was more like a lecture stuffed into a short period of time,
don't give up, take your time,
but may i suggest just wrting and writing write lots and lots, put some stuff out there on a web site,
expand your story, develope your voice your style more.
what makes your or a story catching or interesting is a charecter that we love or hate.

for example i had a story on the web,
about this darling little princess girl in high school she had the perfect life everything about her was perfect so perfect most of the people just hated her or were filled with jealousy.
then i slowly destroyed her

the first time she was paid for sex, she looked her self in the shower after and rubbed all of her intimate parts raw with soap and a wash cloth.
if i may your story reads more like a text book,
put some of you into it your thoughts your feelings
 
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