Comparison between Canadian and international talent

[greythings20]

Those of you who've pooned both in Canada, and elsewhere in the world: how do the SPs compare?

I mean, we can all tell how they compare appearance-wise, and that's subjective besides. So, leaving aside appearance.

How about comparing:

• average age (i.e. how easily can you find working girls of your preferred age here, vs. away?)
• average service level (i.e. where is it easier to satisfy your kinks without huge upcharges? Which culture is more sexually "open"?)
• average level of enthusiasm (i.e. where is it easier to find girls who seem to just love their jobs, and go above-and-beyond?)
• average affordability (i.e. where do you get the most value-for-money? not necessarily "which is cheapest"; but rather, comparing between the same "tiers" of SP talent [e.g. the ones who charge one local's day's wage here, vs. one local's day's wage there], which will give you a better time?)

I say "average" in all these because I love variety. If my options were between a place with a few 10/10 SPs, and a place where you can't walk a foot without running into an 8/10 SPs, I'd definitely prefer to visit the latter!

 

[big tits only]

Everything is generally better and cheaper in other countries.

I find it a waste of money in Canada, frankly.

 

[Kissmepassionately]

My limited experience, other countries have very eager to please ladies, at a fraction of the price, making it difficult to get used to the lower level service, and big price tag upon returning home. But I have not pooned in most countries, just a few, so I doubt that my limited experience is shared all over. Only places in the USA I tried, were Miami and Seattle, they are both more expensive than BC, so I didn't actually book the ladies after hearing the price. Can't comment on a 10/10 SP, never met one so far. Hottest ones I have seen were in St. Kitts, Barbados, and Mexico so far.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

Having been to Canada for over 20 years as well as Thailand, the Philippines, and Germany yes it is far less expensive in foreign countries (totally exclude the US since prices very high with the legal risks). However, I am more on the sensual side vs just the usual stuff which often I find boring.

I enjoy some degree of personality, maturity and ability to communicate (in English). I gave up Asia long ago since hard to understand their accents even if they speak English, and prefer Canada. Germany FKK clubs were a bit too much for my interests. Had an ideal time with a great German massage gal

Being 6-1 in coach the flights to Asia and Europe are far longer than I wish to endure very often. Would love to go to Australia or New Zealand but even longer flights.

In Canada, some of my best times - mostly in Toronto - have been with foreigners... Especially Eastern Europeans and Russians both as more sensual companions and in strip clubs -BC liquor comm rules far too restrictive vs Ontario and Quebec. Although it's been a while Montreal is the most economical option as the French Canadians are also in general more sensual than most non-French Canadians, in my experience. Just have to be sure it is one of the English agencies or they have good English since I don't know a word in French other than maybe "wee"

Am checking out Victoria which I enjoyed back in the days of Saanich incalls before the Sheriff nicely suggested they move to Victoria who seemed to welcome them including the big agencies and downtown nice incalls. I did not like Vancouver nearly as well - high companion prices and too much as you would find in the U.S.

However, I am frugal and have never paid more than $CDN 300/hr for companionship and never needed to for a great experience. Am looking forward to returning to normal life and lifting of travel restrictions.

 

[greythings20]

In Canada, some of my best times - mostly in Toronto - have been with foreigners... Especially Eastern Europeans and Russians both as more sensual companions and in strip clubs ... the French Canadians are also in general more sensual than most non-French Canadians, in my experience.

Not to derail my own thread, but that's an interesting topic to go deeper on!

Rather than asking about countries, maybe a better question is "presuming I'm living in a city with plenty of ethnic enclaves + immigrants from every country you can name, is there a particular ethnic/immigrant population that is likely to have objectively 'better' SPs? One where, if I concentrate on just visiting SPs from that country/ethnicity who've since immigrated to Canada, I'll be likely to be provided better service, be treated better, get more enthusiasm, get more time for my money, be less likely to be jerked around/scammed, etc?"

(Let's ignore which group has the better appearance, lest this devolve into an argument between the big-curvy-latinas fans and the tiny-asian-spinners fans. This isn't about who you like better; it's about which group, on average, puts the most work into their sex work. The kind of extra work that other SPs would charge more more for under names like "PSE" or "Dongguan service", but where for these ladies it's more likely to just be a part of their default package.)

Dave: what was so sensual about your experience with Eastern European / Russian / French-Canadian girls? What did they do for you?

Others: have a similar favorite? If so, why?

 

[dumass]

I think this thread is doomed from the start because the questions are way too broad, and many of the experiences are individual/situational it's impossible to answer. In every country you will find young/old girls , good/bad service, and cheap/expensive options.

Pick what matters to you the most: A certain ethnicity or culture, affordability, selection or convenience. You won't win them all, but some countries have a clear edge for certain things.

Most importantly just go. You will never know the real answers, or even know what you really like being on the computer asking people. I went to 15 countries and many nights and encounters with different ladies before I even understood what I liked/wanted.

 

[Newb808]

I find I enjoy ladies abroad more because I’m usually on vacation and it’s as much an adventure as an indulgence. Doing some research and seeking or even flying blind in strange lands makes both activities more exciting even if not always as enjoyable as a reliable session back home.
I’m not a fan(or an outspoken critic) of catholicism but there’s something to be said about people from majority catholic cultures. I think it might be all the guilt coupled with the ability to be forgiven in an instant for sinning(I don’t believe in any of it to be clear.) IDK. Maybe I heard this when I was young and developed a bias. Having spent some summers of my youth back east, my experiences with ladies from Quebec and then Latin America and the Philippines as an adult, I generally find they outshine others. I’ve never been with Brazilians or Colombians but damn. They have solid global reputations as well and I don’t think it’s all to do with body types or cost. I’ve only known a few women, socially, from France and Italy and they too were unbelievably alluring , some not being the most physically attractive. Not just the accent either.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

Dave: what was so sensual about your experience with Eastern European / Russian / French-Canadian girls? What did they do for you?

Easy question but difficult to explain. And as later replies I agree with that generalizations are too broad and there are of course individual differences.

However, for my kind of intimacy/sensuality which is hard to explain vs the usual sex stuff which I find boring it's more about tender, caring deeper caressing type touch many escorts, strippers, and massage folks (I do lots of nude-reverse) say they like. Not to sound like god's gift to women but I have had strip club dancers literally crying in my arms how they wish their boyfriends had better sensual skills.

It is also an attitude that I care about another human not just as a body or sex object and even for it is only for a moment in time as I may never see her again, and I am paying for it.

Decades ago ...many decades ago.... I became more this way after many workshops at Harbin in California (decades before it burned in forest fire) led by Stan Dale (RIP 2007) - Human Awareness Institute. I did an extensive review on another one of my sites at https://www.libchrist.com/background/StanDale.html

The best suggestion to try and figure me out .... is look at my decades of reviews on sexworktoronto.com or my now very old reports at sexworkvictoria. Or my page and links at http://www.lovetouch.info.

 

[Mike_Hunt]

I agree that there is enormous variability within countries and generalizations are not very meaningful.
That being said, I have seen some trends.
In countries where sex work is legalized, the process seems much more straightforward but also maybe more business like.
In Australia, depending on the state, going to a brothel is a bit like going to Home Depot. You go in, check out the merchandise, have a nice fuck, "G'day mate" and yer on yer way. Friendly, but just okay.
I have only done Frankfurt in Germany, but the scene was highly pressurized. Going into a multi-story building and room after room of ladies pushing themselves in your face every which way, was pretty wild. It might have been a slow day, but on one floor the ladies tried to "outbid" their services starting with anal and going more intense from there. I wound up choosing a young woman from Romania with enormous tits. Fucking was pretty mechanical.
Also tried a few places in London but they really seemed to focus on rip off schemes, especially their stupid "gentleman's clubs."

In the US, I have done Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Seattle. Nothing special. Got ripped off in Seattle once - lady departed with my iPad which was completely locked down so probably just got thrown in the garbage. Saw a few ladies in LA but nothing exciting.
I did more research on the Seattle scene, thanks to the TNA board, but because of SOSTIS, the reviews are pretty limited. The hypocrisy in the US really pisses me off. The whole culture is highly sexualized and they try to deny rape culture, but at the same time, they victimize sex workers. I could go on...

Maybe I just haven't had much luck outside of Canada but I think the ladies in BC are damn good. The PERB reviews are usually helpful so long as guys are reasonable and fair.
I will give Thailand a try when we can travel again.

I agree with Dave in Phoenix, it's all about the connection and respecting the women who are willing to provide a genuine service

 

[divorceddad]

In my experience, the USA is as bad or worse than Canada for prices/service and scams. Like Mike_Hunt said, places that have legalized or managed the trade are far better. Amsterdam, London England, Sydney, I have had great experiences in all and no issues.

 

[greythings20]

I think this thread is doomed from the start because the questions are way too broad, and many of the experiences are individual/situational it's impossible to answer. In every country you will find young/old girls , good/bad service, and cheap/expensive options.

I'm not really looking for "do the math for me" answers—I already have the places I plan to travel to next pretty well locked. I'm just hunting for anecdotes, and maybe some little nuggets of info about certain cultures.

 

[Mike_Hunt]

Care to share - what have you locked down?
I have Phuket on my list once they open up.I havent been to SEA befoe.
I might give this a try to start
https://alternativephuket.com/

 

[dumass]

Care to share - what have you locked down?
I have Phuket on my list once they open up.I havent been to SEA befoe.
I might give this a try to start
https://alternativephuket.com/

I have been to Thailand several times and never been to an adult resort, I don't see the need to goto an agency/resort like this, unless you really want the convenience and willing to pay more.

The main difference in SE Asia, is the possibility of Medium/Long time at reasonable pricing. In USA/Europe, the market/economy is catered towards quickest which makes sex mechanical and.void of GFE. Doing longer time at th we places is just too expensive.

If you are going to Phuket, just go strolling on Bangla Rd, there are about 6-7 agogo bars with 100 girls each (pre covid, not sure after). About $200-250 cdn is enough to get you all night loving from any of the agogos, and I can find cheaper at other venues. Agogo girls are generally the younger and hottest ones, but u can find milfs and freelancers for half the cost

Also you can approach any lady on the beach or street. I am a fussy pooner so I need to sift through many girls to find what I want. There are so many options in Agogo bars, beer bars, massage parlor, Tinder/Thai friendly and online, I find it easier and cheaper to find what I want directly.

 

[greythings20]

Agogo girls are generally the younger and hottest ones, but u can find milfs and freelancers for half the cost

Is that "sexy" hot, or "beautiful" hot? Personally I'm not looking for supermodels, so I don't think any of the gogo bar girls would interest me. (And looking at a few videos of those bars confirms that.)

I'd rather find younger but not "sexy" (more "cute", girl-next-door) types... who are nevertheless somewhat-experienced, service-oriented SPs. (I know, picky!) The kind of girls you tend to mostly find in Canada as "hidden gems" on Seeking or CuddleUp, or maybe as half-service providers in AMPs (who tend to quit sooner than later), rather than on LL. (You know those "amateur college couple sex" videos you'll find on porn sites, that are clearly actually amateur — shot on a phone, bad cinematography, phone being passed back and forth between the couple as they change positions, etc.? The girls you tend to see in those videos are exactly my type.)

Any chance of finding those in the area? (And how, most likely? As freelancers? Dating apps?) And if it's possible, how much would that kind of girl tend to cost, relative to the "hot" gogo bar girls?

 

[greythings20]

Care to share - what have you locked down?

• The Philippines — similar experience to Thailand, but Thailand has started to gentrify but the Philippines hasn't (yet); and because Catholicism has pleasant effects on sexual mores. Probably Angeles City specifically, to start with.

• Nicaragua — it's like the Dominican Republic, but with fewer tourists and an even-stronger machismo culture (which means it's even easier to pick up non-SPs who are tired of local guys, just by being a gentleman.) Just don't speak ill of the dictator and you'll (apparently) be fine. Lots of "sexpats" retiring here, because of the low housing prices. Not sure where specifically to head to, yet.

• Botswana — weird choice, I know, but I had an FWB from there, who told me all about the sexual culture there, how sexually-forward the women tend to be (no concept of slut-shaming; ladies seek sex just as much as men do), and how much they just love white men. Again, not sure where in particular to go — though with countries with no large cities like this, it may make more sense to tour around rather than sticking to a central area.