Clock Management for Appointments

playbyplayguy

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Question to the Perb community (Hobbyist's, SP's and Agencies) about how 'shower time' should be managed during say a 1 hour visit. My understanding, when I enter the incall, my hour starts, and I shower. At the end of the hour, appointment is finished, I shower, then leave. I have had inconsistent experiences with some telling me that your 1 hour visit includes both showers.

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you're in my house for the pre designated time. you can opt out of the shower at the end if you want to. the second the clock runs out and a guy is still here, he's staying over time. is there any other business where the time you pay for is only part of the time you are using that service? Nope. lol
 

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So what about when the guy pays for the hour and the service provider rushes the session so he finishes early. Should he then be entitled to a partial refund?
 

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Not to be a jerk, but the question was asked 'where else do you get extra time than the hour you paid for'. Automotive repair shops is one answer. Clients can spend a significant amount of time talking about their vehicle, then walk, or if they do leave it, those are unbilled hours. Same when they come to get it, and want a play by play about the job, also 'show and tell' with the parts re&re'd, again not billed. Auto Technician, and multiple shop owner was my career for 25 years, unbilled hours over the 25 years would have bought me a Bentley and Ferrari.
 
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Austinpowersmojo

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Not to be a jerk, but the question was asked 'where else do you get extra time than the hour you paid for'. Automotive repair shops is one answer. Clients can spend a significant amount of time talking about their vehicle, then walk, or if they do leave it, those are unbilled hours. Same when they come to get it, and want a play by play about the job, also 'show and tell' with the parts re&re'd, again not billed. Auto Technician, and multiple shop owner was my career for 25 years, unbilled hours over the 25 years would have bought me a Bentley and Ferrari.
Very true but you are omitting the times when you tell a customer that it will be a 2 hour job and you finish the job in an hour and a half and they still get billed for the full 2 hours. Also how much did you mark up the parts you purchased from the wholesaler and didn't tell the customer the true cost? I'm not saying you do those things but I'm willing to bet that what I mentioned is standard industry practice that happens far too much
 

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The time typically starts from the second she opens the door (before you even pay) to the minute you walk out it.
 
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Lol, this is so pointless. So the OP is saying shower time should be excluded? Or what is he confused about...? Assuming that this is a legit sp you are visiting (who isnt rushing, or scamming) once u enter your 1hr starts/or sometimes if you are late some SP might not start from the time you enter, they think you are late and starts counting from actual booking time) and take shower(doesn't matter solo or together) it is all included in that 1hr. Shower doesnt even take that long...common sense.. wow. So the OP thinks that after the deeds taking shower at her place is free...for some reason. I wish it was lol then i will be taking bath
 

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I am a general contractor. I bring a plumber to do some modifications. Appointment time is 9 am in a condo. I arrive on site 8:45, plumber buzzes the condo at 9 am, buz him up. He takes a look, need parts not in his truck, off he goes to supplier. 45 minutes later back onsite, completes modifications, leaves site 1 pm.

Guess what, clock started at 9 am and stopped at 1 pm. Time to assess, get parts and clean up and load his tools back into his truck are all billable.

Now I could have got him to come and give me a set price but he would have also included travel, setup, time to get parts and clean up time in his estimate and proobably a hour or two extra time to do the work just incase.

Most professional services include setup, travel time, material pickup, cleanup and unload/load tools as billable items. Oh don’t forget the notorious “truck charge”.

Yes I know Its different but its also the same.
 

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Very true but you are omitting the times when you tell a customer that it will be a 2 hour job and you finish the job in an hour and a half and they still get billed for the full 2 hours. Also how much did you mark up the parts you purchased from the wholesaler and didn't tell the customer the true cost? I'm not saying you do those things but I'm willing to bet that what I mentioned is standard industry practice that happens far too much
What i should have done was bill @$400/hr, then told them to take their time.
I'm mostly retired from the industry now, work on some people's vehicles from my home, charging too little, not marking up parts enough. But I was answering the question asked, and my answer is 100% correct!
 

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At times I've found "shower time" can be used as a way for SP to burn time/reduce actual service time spent with the client, especially when the shower is "required" at beginning. So instead of getting a full 1hr of service, you lose time due to being forced to take a shower (even if you already showered before attending, but SP may not take your word).

Every SP is different with regards to hygiene so I understand why some "require" it, but IMO a shower should not count toward actual service time, which is what client is paying for (not a shower, lol).
 
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How about just don't be filthy as a matter of habit? Pre shower before you go so you don't need to spend as much time getting cleaned up. That should leave plenty of time for the good stuff.

I always pre shower so all I need is a quick rinse. Never had any complaints.

I've heard stories of people who opt out of the pre shower and they're pretty funny.
 
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