Client's race

pokemon

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I have never been asked for my race.

I know of one lady who avoids East Indians and Iranians as she finds they tend to be too rough on her - she does lots of greek. I think she judges this by way of accent when she speaks to them on the phone. I think that she views persons without an accent (even if EI or Iranian) as being less likely to be rough on her and so OK to see.

There was also one older SP who advertised that she only wanted to see white men, as I recall.
 

Poseidon

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Your place or mine?
To Embrace All Races and the Embodiment of Humanity

I for one love all races because of their differences and the different cultural aspects that they bring into a community such as music, art, foods etc.etc.. Why do we dislike each other and how do we prevent countries from going to war with each other because of the colour of our skin or the misconceptions of a race?…This is a very complex question and if I can answer this, there would be no racism and wars in the world. But for one thing, I think we should celebrate our differences and enjoy the fact that we all don’t look alike and our cultures are different? Can you imagine if we weren’t tolerant of each other and we didn’t celebrate cultural differences? No more Chinese food, Italian opera, East Indian Cuisine, Greek food, etc…etc…etc. You get the picture, humanity would be very boring. I have a brother who is part Philippine and Spanish and his wife who is part Scotish and Irish descent, they have created the most beautiful children that I’ve seen. For me, when I look for an SP, I like seeing someone who is more different than I am because it adds spice and intrigue.
 

shank

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Racism and Racial Profiling

Racism is practised by all races. When something "nice" is said about a particular race then generally people don't have a problem with it, especially people of that race.

Examples: African Americans have rhythm, are athletic and are well endowed. Asian Americans look younger than their age and have smooth/non-hairy skin.

You get into trouble, ie not being politically correct, when you say something "bad" about a race.

Generalizing in all forms is racism.

I think the subject of this thread is racial profiling. Are all East Indians and Iranians rougher on SPs? Are all middle eastern men more likely to be terrorists? Are all SW drug addicts? Obviously not. However, if you had a choice and your life was at stake, what would you do?
 

hurricane

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You said that you only wanted to see Americans.

Opheliablack
"I know, that in my experience, because I had grown up with a particular ethnic group, I dropped my guard and walked into a really stupid and dangerous situation which I would never had done with my own racial group.

Then, the very next week, I did exactly the same thing - another very dangerous situation, same ethnic group - because I ignored my gut in favour of making sure I wasn't now prejudiced against this group of people because of just one incident. That could of got me killed - as it happened, it did get me abducted, and I had to make a break for it from a moving vehicle."



A few weeks ago you told us that you were refocusing your marketing to concentrate on customers who were visiting Americans.
You're speaking in code, does this mean it was Americans who attacked you?
 

Saffire

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I just came across this thread for the first time. I once had a client on the phone who asked "I'm Asian. Is that okay?" I responded "I'm white. Is that okay?" I was shocked that he felt he had to bring it up in the first place, but I've seen it happen, providers refusing to see clients of a certain race. By this, I include Asian women refusing to see EI, Caucasion refusing to see Caucasion, EI refusing to see Native Indians, and so on.....
If a client starts to describe himself to me, (physically, that is) I usually interrupt him. It not relevant. Fit, fat, brown or blue - doesn't matter.
But I am curious about something, and would like to hear some opinions about the men who seek the services of SP's of certain races or cultures. Shank pointed out that when it's something positive or 'nice', there is usually no issue. But what about the white guy who will only see Asian providers, or the EI man who will only see white providers. They are out there, and are quite vocal about it.

Requesting to see someone of a certain race.
Requesting not to see someone of a certain race.

Funny how that one, small, three letter word can create such conflict.
 

Saffire

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Saffire said:
Requesting to see someone of a certain race.
Requesting not to see someone of a certain race.

Funny how that one, small, three letter word can create such conflict.
The word not

So why is it socially acceptable, even expected to some degree, to be attracted to a certain type, yet considered racist if you aren't?
 

chuck1561

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tough subject ...

this is a very tough subject to figure out...I know this has nothing to do with race but a while ago there was a lady who screened me over the phone as to my looks..when I got to the part that I'm 5'4" and 225lbs she said that I could not be a client as it would make her uncomfortable..was I hurt ..yes.. but I did try and see it from her point of view...as for the rest of this thread regarding race I do like all kinds of women but never thought anything of fantasies of being with an asian lady etc..what does that make me..racist.. one can be attracted to people from various cultures and ethnic backgrounds but I believe that it's how one treats others that is the key..I know what my attitude towards racism is and how I respect and treat other people.. maybe it has to do with ones Attitude towards other people..
 

eagle

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The client has every right to seek out a provideer of a specific ethnicity-- it might be part of a fantasy for him to be with an EI woman for example and he might want her to dress a certain way

I know I am attracted to certain ethnicities more than others. I know I like white, EI, hispanic and lighter shaded black people. I prefer asian women and really dark black people a little less, again in general.

AS for the SP, they have to be comfortable with the client. If they are not , bail. Some SPs prefer men over a certain age ( perceptions of less volitility perhaps) or under a certain age ( perceptions of a quicker date if one shot ends things perhaps). These are also facts of life. I just think its reality.
 

shank

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No different

Some guys just eat meat and potatoes, some just Chinese food, some no meat at all ...

When you restrict yourself, you limit your pleasures

"Life is like a box of chocolates"
 

georgebushmoron

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Never mind the client's race. What pisses me off is when an SP says she is some ethnic background and it turns out she isnt.

Like when I went for EI, but she turned out to be Iranian. Happens all the time with Japanese turning out to be something else, like Filipino.

Why do these girls think you can't figure it out? Are there that many ignoramousus out there that can be so easily fooled?

When I go to a Thai restaurant, I expect to get Thai food, not Cambodian. You know?
 

BS Detector

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Lurker, your story is me...bang on. The browns reject you cuz they think you trying to be "one of them" and the others (not all of course) reject you (I'm not talking SP's here) because you ARE brown. So you have brown skin and grew up in North America and both sides see "the other" side of you. I honestly have not seen any open racism in this business. Might have been there but disguised as bad attitude in general. I had an exoerience like yours but it was thru Telepersonals before it became LavaLife. Lots of racism there but one in particular (after numerous telephone conversations) said to me, "You didn't tell me you're a paki". Told her, "I'm not Pakistani, I'm EI but to a narrow mind like your's, it probably doesn't matter anyway. You didn't tell me you're a fuckin bigot so what's you're point?"

Anyway...to make a short story long...The more I read this thread, the more I love Meg, Ava, Victoria-Lee, Sapphire (apologies to any I missed). I haven't met any of these ladies but they seem like absolute dolls. May be off topic here but also want to mention ladies that I have seen like Alex, Ariel, Shanyn (XTC), Suzanne(Fort Road), Summer(Cloud Nine). They are also absolute dolls and I adore them all. Not a cruel bone in their bodys' and I have NEVER felt with any of them that it was just for the money. They all seem like truly wonderful ladies. I have more respect for them than a lot of ladies I know outside of the business. I am so looking forward to meeting the above mentioned Vancouver ladies next time I'm out there. Also Julia (not mentioned because she has not responded to this thread but I have PM'd her and she too seems like a doll).
 

bigguy

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shank

I assume you mean to not limit on ethnicity, when you refer to missing out? If so, I totally agree on that score. I'm STILL "goin' round the world" and thoroughly enjoying the experience.

However, is it discrimination if I have no desire (AND intention) to meet up with short, overweight and unattractive SP's (at least from my perspective and taste) of all ethnicities?

This hobby is consumer driven. "He who has the gold, has the rule"! I absolutely abhor ethnic discrimination, but retain the right to narrow the parameters re what is attractive to my tastes.

I presumptiously assume there will be no dissent with my position?

bigguy
 

BS Detector

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Grendleaxe, gotta agree with your previous post. If I may paraphrase, I think what you may be saying is thathaving certain preferences is not racist but to make assumptions based on race, skin colour etc, or in other words to Pre-judge based on these points is racist. I think over time the word 'prejudice' has been overused and misused but not only in regards to race but for any purpose in life, to pre-judge is limiting to ones life experiences. I also agree with Shank's earlier comment that we tend to 'pre-judge' good characteristics just as often as bad characteristics. One does show more of a positive attitude than the other but both are making the assumption that one or two previous experiences will determine all future outcomes (thus the pre-judging).

Like Adventurer said, we all bleed red, and as I like to say, every single country that I know of has it's prisons (thus "Bad" people).
 

georgebushmoron

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Grendleaxe

Im looking for SP's for certain cultural backgrounds. Reason is because people of different cultures tend to have different views... and I find that as far as SP's are concerned, have a tendency to behave differently depending on their cultural background. E.g: the level of pampering you would get from a Chinese SP at Bex as opposed to a white SP at College Cuties.

You could even extend the whole culture thing to city locale. For example, you would expect a whole different set of behaviours from a white Surrey SP than from one you find in Yaletown. These are just generalities of course, but because one knows nothing about the SP you are about to pay hard-earned $$$ for, one might rely on these generalities to have some gauge on what to expect.

As for your experience with people who can't tell that your Irish uncle is Irish but something else... or mistaking an EI for an Iranian.... not me. EI have a red tone under their skin, and women tend to have larger breasts overall, but Iranians have a greener tone under their skin and have more angular facial features. The list of differences is too many. Maybe I'm one of the few, but I can even tell if a white girl has any Russian in them, or if they have any Swedish in them, for example.
 

dude#1

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Any Iranian SP?

I would like to know if there are any Iranian SP, who can be recommended. Contact # and donation required. Please PM me.

thanks in advance.
 

j1tanamera

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Well fellow Perberts.... I must say, that I am of Asian decent, but have lived in Canada since 1973.... and lately, I've probably experienced more "racially prejudiced" attitudes than "back in the good ol' days". As Canada is really a melting pot of many diverse races, religious or ethnic.... I think there is probably a little more tolerance than say, in certain areas like southern US states. Having said that, I must confess, that sometimes I have lots of racial prejudices that come out, even to my own race.... like to FOC's that know Canadian "customs" but refuse to accept them, and wish to change this country into their "old country".... then I have a problem with that..... But in all honesty, who of us is totally 100% accepting of ALL races.... a few, the good few... whilst the majority harbor some racial pre-judgements about those who are DIFFERENT.....


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godzilla

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What is Sugar?

dude#1
I would like to know if there are any Iranian SP,
What nationality is Sugar?
Assuming that you can find Sugar?

Talk about resurrecting an old post.
 

HoweeMeeker

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Re: What is Sugar?

godzilla said:
Talk about resurrecting an old post.
No kidding....and an old post that has quotes in it from people who are in the thread but don't have their posts in the thread any longer. Really strange to read some of these old posts were there is a to and fro between people and either the to or the fro has had all their posts removed....reads like listening to an old ELP record in mono! :D
 

D Duk

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In defence of the SP's (I've had friends who were pros and have a bit of an insight on their biz), some brown people are notorious in the SP world for going beyond boundaries (some asian groups have been labelled that way too, and some caucasians have been labelled unruly, aggressive and rude by some of my SP friends who mostly service asian clients).

There are cases of individuals wanting gang bangs for the price of the hour, there are those that try to visit greece when it has not been permitted, some clients are too aggressive and man-handle the women and often there is haggling to drop the donation price even though the rate has been pre-determined and agreed upon (or trying to extend the time without paying or get freebies without consideration).

The SP in question might have reacted due to bad experiences with other brown clients, or she might be prejudicial and also had a bad day resulting in the rather rude response.

Of course SP's are people too. We all have likes and dislikes. I don't like to visit SP's with skin darker than myself. You can call me a bigot but it is just my preference (this rule stands for me when I date too).

While I can be selective without outwardly showing my prejudices towards an SP, an SP often does not have that ability.

Just because you are going to pay for her time, doesn't mean that she wants to play with you or has to play with you (nothing in the the bill of rights about that). It is not like you are going to a restaurant and being refused service!

Intimate play is a totally different thing. Just like nobody can force me to date or sleep with a chick I don't like, SP's should have the right to choose as well.

In any case, while some SP's have a problem with race, there are tons in my experience who don't give a rats ass what color you are. So, just like dating women, if she doesn't like you, it is her loss, so move on to the next one.

Besides, you are trying to screw her, not date her nor keep her, so what do you care if she is a bigot?

Reality check, everybody is human and has some prejudices that's one reason why people fight wars. Anybody who denies this is just lying to themselves.
 

superjoint

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Jen the greek in new west also told me that she does not like to take on east indian clients
She told me that they are too rough on her and that they dont listen to her instructions and so on.......

I had a good time with her though i am not east indian
 
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