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Clciked on one of Tants links which made me wonder....

I know Susie was excited about this this week, so when I saw the article in the 24 hours read it eagerly and saw the article ended with the line in red. It's good to be informed on all sides.

http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/2013/06/13/groups-differ-on-criminalizing-sex-trade

Groups differ on criminalizing sex trade


Vancouver-area groups shared their vision for the country’s prostitution laws before the Supreme Court of Canada Thursday, with little agreement on what should be criminalized.

Suzanne Jay of the Asian Women Coalition Ending Prostitution was in Ottawa when the court heard arguments on whether to uphold key sections of Canada's prostitution laws. Last year, Ontario's Court of Appeal struck down part of the Criminal Code that outlaws "bawdy houses." That ruling effectively legalized brothels.

Jay said the coalition — one of more than 20 groups granted intervener status — argues for what is called the “Nordic model” where prostitution is decriminalized for sex-trade workers, but illegal when applied to johns and pimps.

“Don’t punish them as though they’re the same as the men,” Jay said. “You are punishing them for their inequality.”

The coalition wants police to bust more Vancouver-area massage parlours, which Jay said “sexualizes racism” and exploits Asian women through such threats as having their immigration papers withheld.

“The ads for these places entrench this idea that Asian women are for sale.”


Jay said legalizing brothels would make a bad situation even worse because there is already a large network of massage parlours fronting prostitution. Many are run by organized crime.

“They’re not getting busted enough,” she said. “They’re not getting investigated enough. If you remove the laws entirely then that just means they can advertise more blatantly. They don’t have to be as discreet as they are now.”

Speaking from Ottawa, Kerry Porth of the Pivot Legal Society said Nordic model didn’t work and that all prostitution laws should be struck down because even arresting johns hurts sex-trade workers.

“I don’t know how taking away a woman’s means of earning a living is helpful to her.”

Porth said people fear what they don’t understand.

“If sex work is decriminalized we can be a lot more open in talking about the reality of what sex work is,” she said. “Just because (Criminal Code section) 213 disappears you are not going to have a sex worker standing on your front lawn.”

Such a stance rankles Tania Fiolleau, a former madam who ran four brothels, but who now operates the savethewomen.ca website. She wants being a john or a pimp to remain illegal, stiffer penalties, and more resources to help women escape the life.

“This push to legalize it all gives the women a false sense of empowerment,” Fiolleau said. “(Being a sex worker) chips away at their soul. They become the walking dead.”

Legalizing brothels, she argues, won’t get rid of dangerous pimps because they will simply act as “bodyguards or drivers.” The goal, she said, should be getting women out of prostitution, not “pretending they are empowered.”

“In my opinion it’s paid rape,” she said. “Women are not consenting in their heart.”

Okay, you are saying there is a market of men out there who want to be with a girl whose attitude is -10. would you not rather see a provider that had a +10 attitude? I guess where my confusion lays is,well, I guess I do not understand the motives of this type of individual. I think the term for it is "paid rape".

Below: Former brothel manager Tania Fiolleau now runs a website designed to help sex workers escape the life. She thinks prostitution laws should be decriminalized for sex workers, but remain illegal for customers and pimps, photographed in Vancouver, British Columbia, Thursday June 13, 2013.

 

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Below: Former brothel manager Tania Fiolleau now runs a website designed to help sex workers escape the life. She thinks prostitution laws should be decriminalized for sex workers, but remain illegal for customers and pimps, photographed in Vancouver, British Columbia, Thursday June 13, 2013.

The media loves to use fancy words! Reality check: Former Manager of a Massage Parlour

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...y-this-bad-(SP-life)&highlight=Tania+Fiolleau

(haha, I couldn`t resist...guilty, as charged! Only those of you who have been around for a while will get the joke! :pound: )
 

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@the Meat Market!!!lol
in her talk she described how she helped men pimp out women...its amazing how low the abolitionists will stoop....

first she profits from the exploitation, now she is profiting by talking about how she exploited people....this woman is below dispicable.....

she is using public fears and feeding them for money, quoting all the debunked data, her "foundation" pays for her to promote her ideas and book etc. that's how she saves victims, by flying around, staying infancy hotels, getting paid to speak.....

POVERTY PIMP!!!

susie
 
in her talk she described how she helped men pimp out women...its amazing how low the abolitionists will stoop....

first she profits from the exploitation, now she is profiting by talking about how she exploited people....this woman is below dispicable.....

she is using public fears and feeding them for money, quoting all the debunked data, her "foundation" pays for her to promote her ideas and book etc. that's how she saves victims, by flying around, staying infancy hotels, getting paid to speak.....

POVERTY PIMP!!!

susie
I was gonna ask if you had one of those fancy suits, susi!

She LOOKS evil, that is why I had to include her picture, but I agree with the term "paid rape" when used in reference to ladies who are participation AGAINST there will.

edit: Looks like her best friend is the medi-spa....Botox, Juvederm(lip filler) tattooed eyebrows...but what scared me the most was her hands.....they are like claws......
 

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@the Meat Market!!!lol
I was gonna ask if you had one of those fancy suits, susi!

She LOOKS evil, that is why I had to include her picture, but I agree with the term "paid rape" when used in reference to ladies who are participation AGAINST there will.

edit: Looks like her best friend is the medi-spa....Botox, Juvederm(lip filler) tattooed eyebrows...but what scared me the most was her hands.....they are like claws......
LOL, yes i have a lawyer outfit....i wear to court, meetings etc....and i agree paid rape does describe those forced against their will. any guy who would receive service from someone being forced - ie the women in the DTES hotels who were tied up for forced service over drug debts- is a rapist. paying for it doesn't change it.

+1 haymitch yer fuckin right

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Tania is still a pimp. She now pimps Jesus and exploits women just as much as she did before. Her exploits aren't confined to SP's, she recently had some videos up where she completely exploited the suicide of an exotic dancer and the impact on that dancer's friends to sell more of her books and her despicable morality crusade. She isn't doing any of it for free - look at the ungodly amounts of plastic surgery the woman has had and still has. Vixen Nina was a lousy SP back in the day, a parasite of a pimp/MP owner and her spots have not changed a bit, even her target demographic is the same, she's still targeting vulnerable women with her Jesus saves BS the same way she did as a pimp. She also targets suckers and idiots who buy her religious crap.
Well said.
 

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Tania is still a pimp. She now pimps Jesus and exploits women just as much as she did before. Her exploits aren't confined to SP's, she recently had some videos up where she completely exploited the suicide of an exotic dancer and the impact on that dancer's friends to sell more of her books and her despicable morality crusade. She isn't doing any of it for free - look at the ungodly amounts of plastic surgery the woman has had and still has. Vixen Nina was a lousy SP back in the day, a parasite of a pimp/MP owner and her spots have not changed a bit, even her target demographic is the same, she's still targeting vulnerable women with her Jesus saves BS the same way she did as a pimp. She also targets suckers and idiots who buy her religious crap.
Well said.
I couldn't agree more... :faint:
 

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There was a thread started recently on the Alberta board titled "Age 19 or 17. How does one know?"

It was in reference to this article...
http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/04/2...girls-allegedly-forced-to-work-as-prostitutes

I know this is not the norm but it DOES happen. The overwhelming attitude toward this thread on that board was that of disgust, not interest. I didn't think guys would openly express interest after it's been brought up that the girl is potentially underage, but the quotes Emmy posted say otherwise. Even if the person who suspected her to be underage was wrong, is it REALLY worth the risk? I mean, there's SO many other lovely young ladies to choose from that you know are legal age, why not steer clear of one that you suspect to be underage, unless that's your thing...
I can't believe the offenders themselves were only 18 and 19, who raises these kids?
arrested were abdullah amer and jalal something...who let these scum into the country?
 
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